Wednesday Links and Open Thread
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Tuesday's numbers. Demo: Beck tops Hannity, MSNBC fourth out of four! Monday's numbers.
Bonus Baier begins today.
O'Reilly right about GE: analysis.
Summit up.
Profile: John Roberts.
Joe the bully? Today's Maddow moment.
CNBC: defensive BS? Erin Burnett turns shill? Cramer wronger?
CNN's word police.
Hotline after dark.
Vote: Brewer v Harris.
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cee
Re: "CNBC: Cramer's Nattering BS Continues"
It seems that NBC NEWS has decided that it is important to try to defend the family from the critiques. It is their editorial choice, but it is starting to seem like their thin skin will not thicken if they choose to cry foul every time their talking heads are lambasted.
I usually agree with Joe Scarborough, but his indignation towards Stewart was heading into whining territory.
NBC NEWS is reaping what it has sown. Respected professionals executing unbiased and quality jornalism? Rarely. A soap-operaesque community of narcissistic and insecure personalities who cannot take what they dish out. Bingo.
I know painting with broad brushes is dangerous, but with unbalanced MSNBC as their main example, NBC NEWS tolerates the stupid and deserves the scorn.
At least we have FNC as a serious source of news.
March 11, 2009, 9:23:54 AM EDT – Like – Reply
shizzle
is Glenn Beck the most serious?
March 11, 2009, 12:35:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
"is Glenn Beck the most serious?"
Compared to "diploma boy", Keith Olbermann......compared to "pimped out" David Shuster.......compared to "pfft, I have nothing to say because I have not received my DNC talking points yet, " Ms. Maddow......compared to the whiner and cry baby Jim Cramer.....compared to "Twitter" leg spiddle talker Mr. Matthews........
....by leaps and bounds.
PLUS, Beck's not a whiner. Colbert hits him, Beck takes it in stride and laughs at himself.
http://patdollard.com/2009/03/glenn-beck-responds-to-alan-colbert/
Taking oneself too seriously, like the self important MSNBC twits do, results in not being taken seriously by others.
March 11, 2009, 2:23:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
shizzle
If beck, makes you happy, I'm happy to laugh.
March 11, 2009, 3:05:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
shizzle
Looks like John Stewart responded to cramer and and the scab. Funny.
March 11, 2009, 3:17:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
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Jewel Woods is an author and a gender analyst specializing in men's issues. He is the Executive Director of the Renaissance Male Project Inc, an advocacy and accountability organization for men and boys.
those huffpo people are stupid, lazy, live in fantasy land and are ugly inside and out. this jewel (aw, how precious) boy will tell men how to act and the trash who posts there will tell you how to talk (accent -wise).
oh, and joe s. shouldnt fight for what he believes, he should kiss all those liberals butts all day.
Edited By Siteowner
March 11, 2009, 3:35:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
The new Bret Baier online webcast is going to be a winner. More original online content from the #1 Cable News Network - Fox.
March 11, 2009, 3:42:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cornycob
From what i read the webcast will only be on Wednesdays. That seems silly to me. Just do it every day!
March 11, 2009, 4:53:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
GrandpaD
I'm not sure we can say "Beck tops Hannity". Hannity had some sort of special on. I didn't watch it; maybe someone can describe it.
Speaking of ratings, is Olberman on vacation? The MSNBC numbers for that time slot are way down.
March 11, 2009, 5:25:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
No Hannity had his regular nightly show. And yes, Olby was off yesterday, replaced by Shuster.
March 11, 2009, 5:30:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Nibbles
For anyone who gets withdrawal symptoms while away from the TV. Then why not watch FNC online LIVE.
http://freetube.110mb.com/index.php?view=1Zm94bmV3cw
March 11, 2009, 6:10:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
As coherent as Renaissance Project Director, Jewel Woods' piece on Joe Scarborough is...(not...), I must tell him that I'm very fond of men who are "stuck in the traditional roles of masculinity" that Jewell thinks put them "at risk".
Love THAT! Hello, Sailor...
March 11, 2009, 6:35:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
I'm going to have to agree with the article chiding my ancestral home girl Erin Burnett on her role in the Trump vehicle The Apprentice.
Not a move that instills confidence or credibility.
March 11, 2009, 6:41:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Nibbles | 03.11.09 - 6:15 pm |
Nibbles...Cheers for the link. Since the US clocks changed I'm only getting the last hour of F&F when I get in from work. So I can now get the Friends from the start....You never know when the Doocy will pull another Huuuuuuuuge one. You never know....I might even spot the rarest of rarest things....A Democrat on set.
March 11, 2009, 7:24:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Great fun over at the pound tonight as this character "claudo" piles up one lie on top of another to go after me. I have my own dedicated, sticky thread there you know, courtesy of Ellen QB.
So why does he have all those laudatory comments from Fox News personalities?
That seems to really bug him!
Back in the days before videos were not readily available (Dollar was on Quick Time) Dollar had lots and lots of video material from Fox. Is that because he was just high tech or did he have his DVR (before they were popular) on Fox 24&7?
This is an impenetrable mystery. I think we need Lt Columbo, or maybe the CSI team, to get to the bottom of this.
He's a piece of work. Despite all the documented instances of Fox lies, he won't address them.
Is he kidding? This site regularly documents and exposes the Fox lies from the newshounds.
Rather, he collects comments from our blog to show what a bunch of nasty, bad people we are.
It is rather like shooting fish in a barrel.
But what I found interesting was that he wouldn't appear, in person, on the Breitbart video about the blue scrotum thing
Yep, that's another Unsolved Mystery.
yet he frequently uses an old photo of News Hounds Ellen. And he banned Pegleg Peggy...
A Claudo lie. Pegleg Peggy wasn't banned. I made it quite clear at the time that she was having a stay on Exile Island. It was only for the weekend. How else could she have posted here just a few days ago?
for referring to Steve Doocy as Doochy...
Another Claudo lie. She was exiled for calling me a liar. Her attempt to call Steve Doocy a juvenile name was Edited by Siteowner, she got all huffy, denied she broke any language rules, and called me a "barefaced liar". Because she refused to apologize or take it back, she got a weekend stay on Exile Island, courtesy of Travelocity.
(he won't allow "personal" insults - yet he allowed his Olbermann obsessed (aren't they all over at Johnny's place?) sycophant, Olby Sucks, to post something really vulgar (one of countless insulting comments) about Olbermann sniffing jock straps.)
Because the rules permit it. Of course, if Olbermann ever starts posting here, we won't permit him to be insulted. We disapprove of personal attacks on other commenters.
And earlier you mentioned that if one approaches Dollar in a non confrontational manner, he will be reasonable. Why, then, does he edit or not post "reasonable" comments from many who have attempted to post such comments on his blog.
Another Claudo lie. We get such posts routinely, from Schnizzle, Haggis (well, semi-reasonable), VermontDave, and many others. I don't remember Claudo ever trying to post a 'reasonable' comment (or any other kind) here, but I could be wrong.
So there's an update with a trio of Claudo lies, which are very similar to hound lies. Now back to our regularly scheduled discussion.
March 11, 2009, 7:25:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Johnny,
I've always wondered why you and others here fail to take seriously the slanders and insults from the moral colossi over at News Hounds.
After all, insults that we are by turns partisan, homosexual, slutty, underhanded, lying, and low class, by these enlightened progressive champions of minorities, women, and the poor, merely show that they care...
March 11, 2009, 7:42:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
..I might even spot the rarest of rarest things....A Democrat on set.
Haggis | 03.11.09 - 7:29 pm | #
awww...another missed cup...
That's a tired old "wink", Haggis.
If you're going to play tiddlywinks here all day, it's time you got some new ones.
March 11, 2009, 7:47:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
Mornin' Joe Bully Pulpit??? Not so much.
Scarborough writes a Loyal Opposition column at HuffPo commenting "on the continued unbridled hatred that always seems to fly from the keyboards of many Huffington Post readers who comment on (his) articles."
So what does the Jewel of the Vile write about? Scarborough's "more basic problem," of engaging in " bullying behavior."
Scarborough invokes Obama's often stated "new style of politics" while Jewel writes that Joe, "ignored President Obama's *new style of masculinity*" (*encapsuled with quotation marks), even though Obama has never uttered those words.
It's not too hard to ignore something someone never said.
Woods says he believes Joe "is stuck in traditional modes of masculine behavior that put him at risk," and that when he "truly embraces a "new style of politic", based in part on a "new style of masculinity", not only will he, his guests, and the co-hosts on his show be better off, but that Democrats will be, as well."
Nice to know that Jewel is looking out for Joe's, Mika's, the MJ gang's and the Democrats' welfare, protecting all from Joe's "abuse of power. But what about the poor Republicans' welfare?
I suggest that Jewel make up for this oversight by holding the door open for every Republican he can as a tribute to Obama's clarion call for the "new style of politics", based in part on a "new style of masculinity."
Just don't try and hug them.
March 11, 2009, 7:56:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Haggis (well, semi-reasonable)
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.11.09 - 7:30 pm |
Why am I getting singled out for special comment?...Aah I know why....My analysis hits the bullseye.
It's obvious why Beck's rating are up...Colbert ripped the piss out the show...the other night. Folk are simply tuning in for the comedic value...Mind you this may cause Hannity to get even more extreme....if that's posibble.
March 11, 2009, 7:56:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
C'mon Haggie, we tease you a lot 'cuz we got you on the spot.
Welcome back.
March 11, 2009, 8:06:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.11.09 - 8:11 pm |
Sorry I forgot to add the at the end....I was checking out the prospects of buying new Winks from the "The English Tiddlywinks Association"
I see Bill is going to bring up Stewart v Cramer.....The only reason Bill is bringing this up....Is so he can use it as a back door way in for yet another NBC bashing segment.
Some people are saying Bill is the cause of the GE share price fall....I find it outrageous that a fellow American would so eagerly want a great American business to fail....What say everyone else?
March 11, 2009, 8:26:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Bill seems to know his way about Craigslist....He reeled off instantly how to search the site for sexy stuff :lol: OR am I just reading to much into his great knowledge on this matter?
March 11, 2009, 8:39:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
That's an excellent link from Nibbles above.
Haggis, I just saw O'Reilly's segment on Stewart vs Cramer. He agreed with Stewart and told everyone that they should never listen to Cramer.
March 11, 2009, 9:00:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
watchescablenews
speaking of sexy stuff, i've noticed the cable news anchorettes have been showing more and more leg in the past year but now they seem to be showing more clevage. i'm not trying to just be a perv, but has anyone else picked up on this?
March 11, 2009, 9:20:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Nibbles
Fox Fan | Homepage | 03.11.09 - 9:05 pm |
I must have done something right...that is the 1st time I've ever seen Haggis and FF agree on something
March 11, 2009, 9:25:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Nibbles, you haven't been a frequenter here have you? I like Haggis.
March 11, 2009, 9:41:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis Flower
"... I just reading to much into his great knowledge..."
King's English.....................not so much.
King of Queens' English. Aye, Lefty Tenet.
March 11, 2009, 10:52:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
.Is so he can use it as a back door way in for yet another NBC bashing segment.
Sweeeet!
March 11, 2009, 10:54:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
t's obvious why Beck's rating are up...Colbert ripped the piss out the show...the other night. Folk are simply tuning in for the comedic value..
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Let me see if I am following your skewered logic. People watch Beck for "comedic value" and people watch Colbert for "news." Is that your claim?
March 11, 2009, 10:56:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Glenn Stimpson
Beck is replacing Hannity as the anti-intellectual conservative at FNC. It seems to be happening very quickly. There is gap at FNC, the intellectual conservative. Guest commentators fill in at times, but there is no regular programming.
March 12, 2009, 1:12:16 AM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
"There is gap at FNC, the intellectual conservative."
Your concern is noted.
I wonder if some see the same gap at MSNBC regarding the "intellectual" leftist?
Olbermann....nope ("Dungeons & Dragons anyone?" "Where's my diploma, damit!").
Maddow......nope (Even with the use of Elvis Costello specs and a thesaurus).
Shuster........waaaaay nope.
Matthews.........infinity nope.
Intellectual leftist.....an oxymoron.
March 12, 2009, 5:53:33 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Glenn, you must agree with me that Newt needs his own show on FNC. The man is brilliant!
I'm glad you recognize that there are plenty of intellectual liberals on FNC, otherwise you wouldn't have singled out conservatives in your comment.
March 12, 2009, 7:14:07 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Glenn Stimpson
Newt has much to offer on a political show. He is well-informed. However, he functions best on a highly analytical level. I like that. When he gets antecdotal, I get turned off. His personal life is so deplorable, and his political career ended in such a disastrous disgrace that I don't think he has much to offer experientially. I guess I have to wonder if the typical FNC viewer is ready to accept sophisticated political analysis. They tend toward the guts and sweat.
As far the intellectual liberals, you've gone a bridge too far.
March 12, 2009, 11:44:14 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Glenn Stimpson
I can't get a handle on Scarborough. He was moving towards the middle of the political spectrum. He stopped. I suppose he got shot down by moderates who don't view him as particularly bright. He's pulled back to the right, abruptly and almost violently, either as a result of his slap down or because he has new political aspirations and needs to fee the right the raw and gamey meat it requires, or both. I don't think this was a principled move, as I have never seen him have any principles.
March 12, 2009, 11:49:35 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Some people are saying Bill is the cause of the GE share price fall....I find it outrageous that a fellow American would so eagerly want a great American business to fail....What say everyone else?
Haggis | 03.11.09 - 8:31 pm | #
What people are saying that BOR is the cause?
BOR does not want GE to fail, he wants the shareholders to dump its CEO so that the company gets new and improved leadership so that it can succeed again. BOR has been very clear on his frustration over Immelt and his passion for GE to return to excellence, if you actually watched "The Factor" you would know that.
March 12, 2009, 12:12:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
"...Scarborough... either as a result of his slap down or ..."Glenn
Help me out ol' buddy....what "slap down?"
March 12, 2009, 12:45:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
shizzle
Newt, would be something I could stomach from the right. The guy is sane, rational, and very intelligent. I disagree with him, on quite alot, but I don't feel like I'm watching a total idiot when he speaks. When I watch Hannity, O'Reilly, or Beck, on the other hand, I see three guys who should be wearing wigs, floppy shoes, and red noses.
"I'm glad you recognize that there are plenty of intellectual liberals on FNC, otherwise you wouldn't have singled out conservatives in your comment."
I wonder who they are? I've tried to get people to list which of the hosts on fox they think are liberal. I got three from Grammie, and one from Johnny, that overlaps, with grammies (Greta).
So if it recognized, no one wants to talk about it. I think they fear falling into a cunningly laid liberal trap.
"Intellectual leftist.....an oxymoron."
This from from the side of the spectrum, that routinely rails about the "intellectual elite." And prefers to get their economic analysis from a plummer.
March 12, 2009, 12:49:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Glenn Stimpson | 03.12.09 - 11:49 am | #
Glenn Stimpson | 03.12.09 - 11:54 am | #
Cheap shots and demonizations couched as analysis.
Kapon Fauntleroy Clucker (KFC -- for short) ALERT!
March 12, 2009, 3:41:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I too thought it was OTM, Cece. Then again, I frequently think people are him when I see well spoken, articulate liberal commenters here (which is not often). Could it be that there's really only one that exists?
March 12, 2009, 6:18:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
"Kapon Fauntleroy Clucker (KFC -- for short) ALERT!
Cecelia | 03.12.09 - 3:46 pm | # "
Gold star for this one Cecelia.
Next time I see him I will break a magnum of champaigne on his clucker and rename him.
March 12, 2009, 6:57:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Oh, don't doubt your instincts for a minute, FF, well spoken and articulate cheap low-blows and vicious demonization tactics should set off your KFC alarm every time...
March 12, 2009, 7:23:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Next time I see him I will break a magnum of champaigne on his clucker and rename him.
Grammie | 03.12.09 - 7:02 pm | #
You'll smell him before you "see" him, Grammie. It's the grease...
March 12, 2009, 7:24:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Now now ladies, let's not go off into talking about other posters rather than talking about the salient cable news issues of the day. You know, stuff like where did J$ get those avatars from.
March 12, 2009, 7:27:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
J$ - is this conspiracy true?????? Most of my posts for the past year had your logo avatar on them. Just like Peglegs. What exactly are you up to?????????
I give you tons of credit though, despite stealing my identity, your portrayal of me was perfect, capturing my thoughts exactly. Thank you for a long line of very well-written posts under my name!
March 12, 2009, 7:32:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Johnny, I want to thank you for giving me those adorable chocolate labrador avatars.
That is one cute pooch!
March 12, 2009, 7:44:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
You'll smell him before you "see" him, Grammie. It's the grease...
Cecelia | 03.12.09 - 7:29 pm | #
Nice catch. I haven't been reading the post comments as much lately as I have been busy on my new assignment 8), but, after a quick analysis I have to agree.
Is Beck the best guest ever for O'Reilly or is it just me? What a team!
March 12, 2009, 8:26:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Wow, johnny gave me a doggie avatar too! I wonder where he got it.
March 12, 2009, 9:04:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
What anti-property rights, imminent domain loving soul is meting out your assignments, OS?
Justice Breyer?
March 12, 2009, 9:11:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Johnny,
Here's a link you might find interesting because of the article's information concerning a certain interest group's talking points.
Those points seem to merge precisely with the programming of Keith Olbermann's Countdown.
Page 2, is particularly funny.
http://tinyurl.com/cznc3e
March 12, 2009, 10:09:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
