1/19/10 11:18 AM

Thursday Links and Open Thread

Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:

Olby Twitter fake not a Fox trick after all?!?

Wednesday's numbers.

CNBC vs. FBN?

Greta vs the haters.

Finally: the word cloud!

Zucker is wrong? Barnicle's blunder.

FNC rising. CNN freezing.

Video: Dean vs Olbermann.

Hotline after dark.

Vote: Brewer v Novotny.

Q&A: Matthews, Contessa (via ICN); Cafferty, Coop, Coop.

Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.




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you called howard dean john dean, again, J$, at olbermann watch.
March 26, 2009, 4:05:19 AM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
More wisdom from Beck, (and the lovely Megyn Kelly).....
 
"It's when they're not talking about you that you have to worry."
 
http://tinyurl.com/chop7y
 
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The left's attack machine is an effcient and insatiable monster. O'Reilly's last problem is another example, with the collateral damage in smearing a rape victim. What a wonderful situation.
 
And COUNTDOWN is a parasite on this machine. NBC NEWS has allowed a parasite to be a part of its news line up. Those that support the personal destruction of others pay the salary of such individuals and feed the hate.
 
Beck's ratings and the left's apoplectic reaction to him tells me there is great value and redemption in supporting free speech and shunning the hatred on the left.
March 26, 2009, 6:47:52 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Yeah tilde, I do that a lot. Thanks for the heads up; I've fixed it wherever possible.
March 26, 2009, 9:23:00 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
I noticed Hannity went after President Obama over the teleprompter mix up during the St Patrick Day event at the WH....It's sad that the Right have sunk to this ridiculousness. Of course what he's telling his viewers is totally false.
 
Here is the real story....Reported in of all places the Right wing Daily Telegraph here in the UK.
 
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnden/blog/2009/03/24/the_truth_about_barack_obamas_irish_teleprompter_gaffe


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March 26, 2009, 10:58:33 AM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Greta vs the haters: her words are talking about people who hate one party or the other. But the real subtext is a challenge to the haters who attacked her for her Palin coverage, but never mentioned her coverage of other politicians. Read between the lines and this is a big stick in the eye of the people who tried to smear her with charges of bias. Or am I alone in this interpretation?
March 26, 2009, 11:36:43 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Guest
Redux
 
Haggis,
 
Tell you what, old sport.  
 
You retract or correct only three of your most recent fabrications, falsehoods or distortions, and I'll back you up 100% on your request for a retraction from OS.
 
Deal?
vstol | 03.25.09 - 7:52 pm | #
March 26, 2009, 11:41:05 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.26.09 - 11:41 am |
 
Johnny...Just imagine if the same sort of story came out about someone over at NBC....What would you and everyone else here be saying about it? Please don't tell me you'd be giving them the benefit of the doubt.  
 
vstol | 03.25.09 - 7:52 pm | #
Anonymous | 03.26.09 - 11:46 am |
 
Thanks for the offer...but I just thought OS would do the right thing and retract his claim.
March 26, 2009, 12:00:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"Just imagine if the same sort of story came out about someone over at NBC....What would you and everyone else here be saying about it?"
 
Oh it has. David Gregory married to a attorney who worked for Clinton and a big honcho in Fannie Mae. Andrea Mitchell married to the Fed Chairman. You are free to scour the site to see for yourself what exactly I said about it.  
 
Since you asked what would you and everybody else here be saying about it, I'll ask you, since you're part of the everybody else. What exactly did you say about Andrea Mitchell and David Gregory's conflicts (by your rules) of interest?
March 26, 2009, 12:16:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Just imagine if the same sort of story came out about someone over at NBC....What would you and everyone else here be saying about it?
 
Haggis is almost right for once, we would have to imagine it. Afterall, there is no one at NBC that is kind to the major candidates of both parties.
March 26, 2009, 12:19:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.26.09 - 12:21 pm |
 
Your examples are not quite the same as paling around with a potential VP. Instead if spinning out of answering my original question...Can you please be forth coming with an answer.
March 26, 2009, 12:34:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Thanks for the offer...but I just thought OS would do the right thing and retract his claim.
Haggis | 03.26.09 - 12:05 pm | #  
 
Do you see how stupid that makes you look, hagster? You are asking me to do something (unjustified) you refuse to do even though it's justified.
March 26, 2009, 12:38:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
What's with Michael " Why am I so Stupid" Weston over at the Hound's of Hell?
 
He appears to have a man crush on Johnny and his love and stalking of Greta and Gov Palin borders on the irrational.
March 26, 2009, 12:42:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Ashley...you obviously haven't read the remarks from Conservative Bill Bennett.
 
"Bill Bennett: Conservative Idea That Press In Love With Obama Disproven"
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/25/bill-bennett-conservative_n_178861.html
March 26, 2009, 12:42:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"Your examples are not quite the same"
 
All analogies are flawed. If they weren't they wouldn't be analogies.
 
"Can you please be forth coming with an answer."
 
I asked you first. Point us to your criticisms of David Gregory for being married to a Clinton lawyer and Fannie honcho.
 
My answer is simple. I don't recall ever saying anything against Gregory over the Democratic activist he was married to, despite his aggressive, critical reporting against Republicans. So I'm consistent. How about you? Did you object to Gregory and smear him like you're doing to Greta? Are you consistent? Or just a partisan hack? The world awaits your answer!
March 26, 2009, 12:43:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 03.26.09 - 12:43 pm |
 
OS...you claimed I wrote e-mails to advertisers of O'reilly....I simply want to see your proof of this claim.
 
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.26.09 - 12:48 pm |
 
I've never seen Gregory paling around with a Democrat like I saw Greta do with Palin.
March 26, 2009, 12:48:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I've seen Gregory interview dozens of Democrats. Are you going to answer the question? Did you ever accuse Gregory of a conflict of interest or not, because you certainly did so to Greta, specifically citing her husband. Do I have to quote your words back to you?
 
Please answer.
March 26, 2009, 12:50:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Haggy - don't duck and dodge, you are starting to look silly.
 
At FNC, you have both BOR and GVS who have given comparable interviews to the major candidates of both parties. Since you claim that I am wrong about NBC, then please tell me who did the same there?
March 26, 2009, 12:51:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
It would be great if there was someone we could capture Haggis ducking and dodging onto a memory chip. Just imagine "Haggis - the Video Game".
March 26, 2009, 12:53:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.26.09 - 12:55 pm |
 
I see where this is going...coconut island if I'm not very much mistaken...So I'll not take the bait
March 26, 2009, 12:54:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Ashley | 03.26.09 - 12:56 pm |
 
Brian Williams
March 26, 2009, 12:58:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
What's with Michael " Why am I so Stupid" Weston over at the Hound's of Hell?
 
He appears to have a man crush on Johnny and his love and stalking of Greta and Gov Palin borders on the irrational.
Blackflon | 03.26.09 - 12:47 pm | #  
 
Greta Van Susteren says it best, from the link in today's J$P:
 
I also think the haters are pathetic — usually people who have made a mess of their own lives so want to hate others. They are not the people who are looking for solutions to important issues but rather to tear down. - Greta Van Susteren, 2009
 
Of course, the l'il feller will deny that with some expressed fit of rage, then he'll go back to discussing bodily fluids and keyboards with the usual homophobic and misognistic slurs tossed in. I fondly remember his actually thanking me when I told him he was the smartest newshound! :lol:
March 26, 2009, 1:00:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Do you mean the same Brian Williams who immediately after interviewing Palin went on Maddow to put down Palin?
 
The same Brian Williams who complained to Letterman that McCain was punishing him because of his affiliation with Olbermann?
 
I think not Haggy. But, I give you credit for answering.
March 26, 2009, 1:06:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Infectious Laughter: The Epidemiology of a Smear.
 
MediaMatters have put together an excellent video about how the smear about President Obama's laugh on 60 minutes started and spread around the media.


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March 26, 2009, 1:09:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Ashley | 03.26.09 - 1:11 pm |
 
Of course O'relly didn't say anything negative about Obama after his interview with him?
March 26, 2009, 1:14:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I see where this is going...coconut island if I'm not very much mistaken...So I'll not take the bait
Haggis | 03.26.09 - 12:59 pm | #  
 
Nice dodge! :lol:
March 26, 2009, 1:17:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Of course O'relly didn't say anything negative about Obama after his interview with him?
Haggis | 03.26.09 - 1:19 pm | #  
 
A dodge to a diversion! :lol:
March 26, 2009, 1:18:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"Of course O'relly didn't say anything negative about Obama after his interview with him?"
 
See for yourself:
 
http://tinyurl.com/62bgbg
March 26, 2009, 1:18:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply


shizzle
"At FNC, you have both BOR and GVS who have given comparable interviews to the major candidates of both parties. "
 
Obviously you didn't watch BOR interview the canidates, the toughest questions he asked McCain seemd to be in essance, why are you not farther to the far-right.  
 
btw, can anyone tell me a few Republicans, he has went ballistic, like Barney Frank on?
March 26, 2009, 1:21:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
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Haggis | 03.26.09 - 1:14 pm |
 
What's wrong with the youtube link?...i didn't see it posted on your front page already.
March 26, 2009, 1:22:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
"So I'll not take the bait"
 
Translation - I really have no answer, so I'll say this to try to make people think that I really do have an answer, but Johnny won't like my answer, so I'll be banished to Exile Island.
March 26, 2009, 1:24:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
You're posting your links today at the rate of more than one an hour. That's abusing the comments by turning them into your own private 'today's links' post. Please read the rules.
March 26, 2009, 1:26:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
Haggis,
 
I could be wrong, but I don't think it's bait that is hanging over your head.
 
You have made numerous false claims, bogus accusations and intentional misrepresentations over the previous couple of weeks. You have been asked several times to offer some sort of substatiation, clarification, correction or retraction. You evade, deflect and ignore the requests. When cornered, you scoot through your little mousehole back to Cornwall.
 
Honesty, Sir, is the foundation of any worthwhile endeavor. Man up, clean up or _______up.
March 26, 2009, 1:26:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
shizzle | 03.26.09 - 1:26 pm | #
 
Obviously, you are wrong. I did watch BOR interview BO, HRC, SP.
 
Now, I see you want to deflect from the issue at hand, but fine. Name me one republican that BOR interviewed that so flat out lied and dodged over the Fannie Freddie mess like Barney Frank.
March 26, 2009, 1:27:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Let's try and keep Republican/Democrat/left/right out of the discussion and focus on the cable news issues. Please?
 
BtW I will shortly be offline for an hour or two to deal with some annoying personal matters. Continue to post but they won't appear until I get back.
March 26, 2009, 1:30:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Did anyone catch the F&F this morning?
They had on an ex-gangster to try and portray the Democrats as gangsters....Will these folk get any lower? They didn't even ask what crimes he had committed...They just sat there nodding their heads in agreement.
March 26, 2009, 1:37:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
If anyone hasn't gone to the Dean vs Olbermann link, it is MUST SEE $ TV!
March 26, 2009, 1:38:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
or _______up.
vstol | 03.26.09 - 1:31 pm | #  
 
Now...Now no need to take that tone.
March 26, 2009, 1:40:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply


shizzle
"Now, I see you want to deflect from the issue at hand,"
 
You brought up Bill O'Reilly I responded to it. If by deflecting, you mean responding to what you wrote I'm guilty.  
 
"but fine. Name me one republican that BOR interviewed that so flat out lied and dodged over the Fannie Freddie mess like Barney Frank."
 
I love the "but fine", it almost makes one think you are going to respond to the question I asked. Then you don't.
March 26, 2009, 1:42:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply


onefortheroad
How long does it usually take to be 'published'?  
 
Half an hour, an hour? At what point do I assume that post too has disappeared into cyberspace?
 
And what's wrong with your State Department? Too political?
March 26, 2009, 1:43:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply


shizzle
"BtW I will shortly be offline for an hour or two to deal with some annoying personal matters. Continue to post but they won't appear until I get back."
 
I've posted on this site, in the very early morning, and very late at night. Usually the posts go through right away.
 
You are dedicated.
March 26, 2009, 1:45:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
shizzle | 03.26.09 - 1:47 pm | #  
 
Shiz - I don't watch BOR all the time. Since I've never seen anyone from the right on his show that flat out lied like Barney Frank, I can't say if BOR did or did not avoid hammering him.
 
So perhaps you can tell me one who deserved it. If you actually saw the Frank interview, you would know he deserved it.
March 26, 2009, 1:50:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply


onefortheroad
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.26.09 - 1:35 pm | #  
 
But, but, but, my missing post was at:
Canada thanks them.
onefortheroad | 03.26.09 - 1:02 pm | #
March 26, 2009, 1:57:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
Now...Now no need to take that tone.
Haggis | 03.26.09 - 1:45 pm | #  
 
I did not take a tone, neither this nor that one. Since I left it blank, the choice of tone is left entirely up to you.
 
If you have a problem with the tone you've taken, then take it up with yourself. Though if history is any indication, you won't get a straight answer.
March 26, 2009, 2:06:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Greta's blog post isn't just directed at the Left....it's also directed at the Clinton haters on the right. I know this will surprise the heck out of everyone here....but I actually agree with her.  
I personally think Greta should have come clean and told her audience about her husbands relationship with Palin before it came out in the paper...This just made it look as if she was hiding the fact
March 26, 2009, 2:14:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply


onefortheroad
Well this is fun.  
Sort of like watching the grass grow!
Glad I didn't give up my day job.
March 26, 2009, 2:41:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply


kevmack
Haggis you know that Michael Franzese has also been on MSNBC
March 26, 2009, 3:09:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
The Fauxbermann/Dean video is the first post I've ever seen get completely nuked from tp. :lol:
March 26, 2009, 3:24:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Haggis - just my curiosity. Some time ago you were caught using multiple names and anonymous IP addresses to show your posts originating from different places on the globe.
 
Do you still use anonymous IP addresses when you post here?
March 26, 2009, 3:30:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 03.26.09 - 3:29 pm | #  
 
Brilliant video from the good people at OW. I noticed Marty at Chickaboomer also linked to it.
 
It's quite a masterpiece.
March 26, 2009, 3:31:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Ashley, "masterpiece" is the word!
 
It's priceless!
March 26, 2009, 4:03:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Ashley | 03.26.09 - 3:35 pm | 
 
No I don't use a proxy....but you'll know all about them when posting under the name Nibbles
March 26, 2009, 4:08:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Ashley | 03.26.09 - 1:05 pm | # 
 
Poor Weston is not onlky a misogynist but also a gay basher. I wonder how the lesbiand at the Mutt House feel about that?
 
By the way Ashley, I did some research on your name. It is in fact a male and female name. More so a female name today but was originally a male name. Why it change I don;t really know.
 
Of course you remember the name Ashley Wilkes.
 
Maybe poor Weston has an identity crisis. It sure is easy to get his goat.
March 26, 2009, 4:10:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply


onefortheroad
It was added to Wednesday's Comments?
 
Isn't today Thursday, or am I more turned around than I thought?
 
OK Cecelia you don't need to answer that, I will just assume you agree. lol
March 26, 2009, 4:10:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
kevmack | 03.26.09 - 3:14 pm |
 
I'm sure he has been on MSNBC....But I bet he wasn't there to smear a whole political party like he was today on F&F.
March 26, 2009, 4:15:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Guest
Man, you are fast J$....I just read about Olbermann's Twitter mistake, come here to see if you got it and well....
 
Will there be a retraction of the unsupported accusation and apology to FNC tonight on COUNTDOWN?......
 
Unlikely.
 
Caveat Emptor, Mr. Olbermann!
March 26, 2009, 4:19:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Anonymous | 03.26.09 - 4:24 pm |
 
The key word is unbeknownst...So Keith can't be held responsible for something he doesn't know about.
 
"but it turned out that MSNBC was running the account, unbeknownst to Mr. Olbermann,"
March 26, 2009, 4:32:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
4:24 was me.
 
HotAir picked up the OW clip of Dr. Dean and The Douche.
 
I really want it to go viral, it would make my day. The abundantly clear hypocrisy and dishonesty needs to be seen.
 
A classic.
March 26, 2009, 4:32:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"So Keith can't be held responsible for something he doesn't know about."
 
quite a change from how Fox & Friends were evil for not reporting an apology that hadn't been made public when they were discussing the subject! Eh, Haggie?
 
Oh and by the way, if Keith didn't know about it, then why was he accusing someone from Fox of being behind the conpiracy? Is it your opinion that people who don't know what they're talking about should smear other people with false charges? You're a big one on demanding apologies, but I haven't heard you yet say that Keith should apologize for smearing Fox and the Twitter folks. Do you think he should do a public apology?
March 26, 2009, 4:38:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.26.09 - 4:43 pm 
 
Firstly the apology was know....MSNBC reported it at 7:25am.
 
Keith didn't know about the account....So he had to assume someone had set it up to make him look bad...he simply surmised it could have been someone at Fox.
March 26, 2009, 4:45:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
One last try. Can you answer a simple question? Should Keith apologize to Twitter and to Fox for his false charges?
March 26, 2009, 4:47:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Johnny it was all done in jest....No need for everyone to take it so seriously.
 
I think I'll make a video of FNC comments about Obama if I have time....Giving no context as to why they said things....Just like that video over at OW.
March 26, 2009, 4:55:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
There are two possible answers to the simple, direct, and specific question you asked Haggis
 
Yes
 
or
 
No
 
Haggis will say neither.
March 26, 2009, 5:01:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Haggis if you think not answering is going to save you from any consequences, you have it exactly backwards. Not answering will expose you to consequences. So this is your last opportunity. A simple yes or no. Should Olbermann apologize for his false charges against Twitter and Fox? Yes or no.
March 26, 2009, 5:04:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
Haggis, you sure are kind with the benefit of doubt for some, but not others.
 
Olbermann still is responsible for alleging a FNC person was behind the Twitter account.
 
Olbermann ridiculed O'Reilly for not having Ms. Terkel on his show to explain herself regarding his allegations against her.....Olbermann never has the objects of his WPitW on to give their side to the story. Perhaps this Dan Cooper from FNC should have been contacted by COUNTDOWN staff for his explaination, or Twitter made to explain their mistake....If he had done the correct amd ethical "journalist thing," he would have quickly found out MSNBC was behind the account.
 
Again, the difference between O'Reilly and Olbermann.....O'Reilly does not call himself a journalist, he is a commentator....Olbermann claims to be a journalist. Olbermann violates his self-identified morality every weeknight, O'Reilly does a much better job of allowing a fair and balanced hearing of issues.
March 26, 2009, 5:08:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.26.09 - 5:09 pm |
 
Your just itching for a reason. 
 
I've just watched the twitter WPitW video...Interrupting my golf viewing I may add. The answer is NO
March 26, 2009, 5:15:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I think I'll make a video of FNC comments about Obama if I have time....Giving no context as to why they said things....Just like that video over at OW.
Haggis | 03.26.09 - 5:00 pm | # 
 
What context was there that changed the gist of the fact that Dean flatly (and belatedly...) stated that a sitting president of the U.S.A. should never be referred to as a fascist?
 
BTW-- I'm still waiting for you to link to the wrongly interpreted stats about single parenthood that you specifically referenced as circulating the web the other day.
March 26, 2009, 5:16:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"The answer is NO"
 
Color me shocked! Shocked! But at least we have you on the record. Now go back to watching grown men hit a ball with sticks.
March 26, 2009, 5:17:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
"The answer is NO"
 
###
And Haggis is correct in predicting what will happen because Olbermann is not concerned with accuracy, fairness or balance like real journalists.
 
Edward R. Murrow, indeed.
 
However, the next time I hear a criticism from Haggis regarding the actions of one Bill O'Reilly, I will recall the slack you gave the hack from MSNBC.
March 26, 2009, 5:23:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Now go back to watching grown men hit a ball with sticks.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.26.09 - 5:22 pm | # 
 
Well it's a lot more interesting than watching grown men throwing a small ball at folk with a rounded bat....then running round 4 bases...We call that rounders over here + I think we invented the game.
March 26, 2009, 5:25:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Isn't today Thursday, or am I more turned around than I thought?
 
OK Cecelia you don't need to answer that, I will just assume you agree. lol
onefortheroad | 03.26.09 - 4:15 pm | # 
 
No, I don't agree, 14tr.
 
I have never for an instant thought that you don't know what's going on.
March 26, 2009, 5:40:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
I will recall the slack you gave the hack from MSNBC.
cee | 03.26.09 - 5:28 pm | # 
 
Just like the mega slack you and others give everyone over at Fox
March 26, 2009, 5:46:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply


shizzle
"Shiz - I don't watch BOR all the time. Since I've never seen anyone from the right on his show that flat out lied like Barney Frank, I can't say if BOR did or did not avoid hammering him."
 
I watch the show pretty regularly, and I can't think of that level of rudeness with a Republican. Also, You haven't demonstrated Frank lied about anything. In order for you to justify the flipout you need to demonstrate that he did lie. Secondly, O'Reilly has done this with other democratic politicians, Dodd for instance and others whose names escape me but with google I could probably find. When has he doen this with a right-wing politcian? 
 
"So perhaps you can tell me one who deserved it. If you actually saw the Frank interview, you would know he deserved it"
 
I did see it, and I thought O'Reilly looked like an idiot. When the right complains of media treatment of one their own, like Palin getting asked "gotcha" questions, I always wonder how that compares to O'Reilly flat out shouting someone down. 
 
Anyway gotta go
March 26, 2009, 5:52:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Kirk G
TVNewser forgot to mention that Gretta was also sticking up for Palin along with Clinton
March 26, 2009, 5:54:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I think we invented the game.
Haggis | 03.26.09 - 5:30 pm | # 
 
Alabama democrats invented baseball?
March 26, 2009, 6:04:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
shizzle | 03.26.09 - 5:57 pm |
 
O'reilly uses this very unprofessional angry stunt again and again for one simple reason....He gets talked about the following day and the hope is folk will tune in to see what ridiculous stunt he'll pull the following night. He uses the same antics that Coulter pulls
March 26, 2009, 6:06:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
if Keith didn't know about it, then why was he accusing someone from Fox of being behind the conpiracy?
 
--------------------
 
This are the notes that hang on Fauxbermanns refrigerator.
 
"Smear Fox News and Bill O'Reilly today."
 
"Kick cat when I find out Bill O'Reilly quadruples my viewer numbers."
March 26, 2009, 6:12:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Giving no context as to why they said things....Just like that video over at OW.
Haggis | 03.26.09 - 5:00 pm | # 
 
The loons are screaming "out of context" already? That video is in perfect context. Dean makes a fool of Fauxbermann! :lol: :lol: :lol:
March 26, 2009, 6:14:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply


cee
O'reilly uses this very unprofessional angry stunt again......
 
Oh wow, the great CBS journalist, Mike Wallace, was unprofessional......
 
Those strange NBC NEWS DATELINE reporters shoving mics into pedophile's faces.....so unprofessional.
 
My local news' "SHAME ON YOU" consumer protection reporter has been acting unprofessional with those slumlords, cheating used car salesmen and ponzi-schemers.
 
I get such an education here at J
March 26, 2009, 6:17:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 03.26.09 - 6:19 pm |
 
OS are you deliberately trying to play the clown? I was referring to the inserted video of Keith.
March 26, 2009, 6:18:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
cee | 03.26.09 - 6:22 pm |
 
You don't just give O'reilly slack....You yet the whole rope just run through your fingers.
March 26, 2009, 6:21:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I was referring to the inserted video of Keith.
Haggis | 03.26.09 - 6:23 pm | # 
 
So was I.
March 26, 2009, 6:34:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
O'Reilly certainly doesn't need to be defended by anyone. He does what he does and he does it out in the open for all to see and for all to judge.
 
Perhaps his indignation with certain folks is not partisan but based solely upon a disdain for disingenuous people who are quick to criticize others but refuse to admit their own mistakes.
 
?
March 26, 2009, 6:35:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Terkel to appear on Olbermann tonight to talk about the continuing O’Reilly smears. 
 
Yippeeee!
March 26, 2009, 6:37:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
You don't just give O'reilly slack....You yet the whole rope just run through your fingers.
Haggis | 03.26.09 - 6:26 pm | # 
 
Aren't you the guy who just stated that no apology is necessary when Olbermann made a false accusation against someone?
March 26, 2009, 6:51:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply


~
any bright blew scrotum news?
March 26, 2009, 6:52:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
Cecelia | 03.26.09 - 6:56 pm |
 
I would answer you but my last couple of posts haven't appeared....So I assume I'm shelling coconuts for the time being.
March 26, 2009, 7:00:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I would answer you but my last couple of posts haven't appeared....So I assume I'm shelling coconuts for the time being.
Haggis | 03.26.09 - 7:05 pm | # 
 
I doubt it, because you just addressed a post to me.
 
Might you not have included an answer in it?
March 26, 2009, 7:29:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
So I assume I'm shelling coconuts for the time being.
Haggis | 03.26.09 - 7:05 pm | # 
 
I believe it's referred to as "polishing johnny's coconuts."
March 26, 2009, 7:30:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
I believe it's referred to as "polishing johnny's coconuts."
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 03.26.09 - 7:35 pm |
 
OS...You better give me some hints on how this is done....I believe you've done this in the past. 
 
Might you not have included an answer in it?
Cecelia | 03.26.09 - 7:34 pm |
 
I wasn't going to spend time writing a post that wasn't going to appear.
March 26, 2009, 7:50:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Oh really? You spent time posting on completely new subjects, with additional HaggisLinks (apparently having already posted three of them in this thread wasn't enough for you). And you did so knowing you already had gone over the line in trying to convert this thread to your personal links dump. And yet you can't answer Cecelia? Is that because you only post when you can dictate the subject matter? Or are you avoiding Cecelia because you're just a He-Man Wimmen Hater?
March 26, 2009, 7:53:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
you're just a He-Man Wimmen Hater?
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.26.09 - 7:58 pm | # 
 
That's an outrageous thing to imply....I think an apology is on the cards for that little statement.
March 26, 2009, 7:56:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I'll use the Haggis exemption: "It was all in good fun."
March 26, 2009, 7:58:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
The reviews are coming in, critics rave!
 
The recently released Dollar Production docu-comedy, "Fascist Times at Countdown High." starring the Abbot & Costello of cable news, Olberdean, has audiences laughing out loud, critics raving and gives the world a new entry into The Classic Line Hall of Fame, "Is there something of a double standard here or am I being a little oversensitive?"
 
 
"Instant Classic"
 
"one of the best clips I've seen"
 
"Comedy Gold"
 
"Box Office Boffo"
 
"Best Hit of the Year" 
 
"I give it four H's: Hard Hitting, Hilarious Hypocricy!"
March 26, 2009, 7:59:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
And yet you can't answer Cecelia? Is that because you only post when you can dictate the subject matter? Or are you avoiding Cecelia because you're just a He-Man Wimmen Hater?
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.26.09 - 7:58 pm | # 
 
Johnny, my theory is that it's the recent NH talking point ploy to paint you as someone who jettisons posts for no consistent reason, in order to tilt all discussion.
March 26, 2009, 7:59:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I wasn't going to spend time writing a post that wasn't going to appear.
Haggis | 03.26.09 - 7:55 pm | # 
 
So where's my answer?
March 26, 2009, 8:00:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.26.09 - 8:03 pm |
 
Well if that's the case you can polish your own bloody coconuts :lol:
 
The post I wrote with 2 link was done to show why the friends had a gangster on this morning....It then showed how Beck took the Friends nonsense to a higher plain with his wackadoodle tirade.
March 26, 2009, 8:08:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
"Is that because you only post when you can dictate the subject matter? Or are you avoiding Cecelia because you're just a He-Man Wimmen Hater?"- 
johnny dollar |
 
A question is not a statement, nor is it an implication.
 
And of all the people in the cyberworld to bring up an apology being in order for an outrageous implication, I would think at some point you would choke on your own vomit.
March 26, 2009, 8:08:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Haggis
So where's my answer?
Cecelia | 03.26.09 - 8:05 pm |
 
just add a 6 letter word....instead of just demanding
March 26, 2009, 8:20:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
So where's my answer?
Cecelia | 03.26.09 - 8:05 pm |
 
just add a 6 letter word....instead of just demanding
Haggis | 03.26.09 - 8:25 pm | # 
 
Oh, my goodness! How am I "demanding" an answer from you, when you JUST volunteered the info at 03.26.09 - 7:05 pm that you WISH to answer my question?
 
Answer away, please.
March 26, 2009, 8:29:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Stalled enough to get any NH help yet, Haggis?
March 26, 2009, 8:29:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Cece, what is that avatar? It looks like a pididdle couch driving down the road in the rain...lol
 
Marc LH and BOR had a jovial chat tonight. Good TV.
March 26, 2009, 8:51:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
It's Van Gogh's Starry Night, as he would have painted it, had he had macular degeneration...
 
What's a pididdle couch?
March 26, 2009, 9:19:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
It's a couch driving down the road with a headlight out. It's all I could glean from the low-res depiction available through Gravatar.  
 
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pididdle
March 26, 2009, 10:01:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
It's a couch driving down the road with a headlight out. It's all I could glean from the low-res depiction available through Gravatar.
 
http://www.urbandictionary.com/d...p? term=pididdle
Fox Fan | Homepage | 03.26.09 - 10:06 pm | # 
 
That would have been a Dali.
March 26, 2009, 10:30:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
Don't usually do this, but it's simply too ironic to pass up.
 
How much you wanna bet Ellen will soon ban vistol? Facts and rational discussions are not allowed at Newshound's doo doo site. Also, Ellen tends to protect his sheep from the truth.-v33 1/3 
=-=-=
 
from NH O/T J$ thread:
 
vstol, 
Just like J$, you twisted what I said. To repeat, for the last time: I said that HANNITY GAVE VITTER A PASS ON THE AIRPORT INCIDENT AND THE DC MADAM THING THAT NIGHT. I further noted that there had been no DISCUSSION (different from a brief report or even a news report) ON VITTER'S AIRPORT INCIDENT and then compared that to THE HEAVY DISCUSSION ABOUT CYNTHIA MCKINNEY'S BRIEF TO-DO. 
 
I NEVER SAID THERE WAS NO REPORT ON FOX NEWS ABOUT VITTER'S AIRPORT INCIDENT NOR THE DC MADAM INCIDENT. 
 
Yet somehow J$ got it all twisted and cited something I never said to claim that I lied. How typical. 
 
You have proved that you are not here in good faith. Please leave now or I am going to ban you. 
Posted by: Ellen on Sun 3.15 11:23pm 
 
---------------------------------------------OK Ellen. I do have one question.
 
What's the difference between being forced to leave or being banned?
Posted by: vstol on Sun 3.15 11:29pm 
=-=-=-=
 
from a Mains topic thread (Biden edit)
 
"YOU ARE BECOMING TIRESOME."
 
Good self description, Vstol. I'm thinking that with all the News Hounds trashing that you do on another blog, you really don't belong here anymore. We have been courteous to you; but what we get in return is not so courteous. You do have a conflict of interest. Bub-eye.
 
Sistah Mod
vstol | 03.22.09 - 6:08 pm | # 
 
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/newshounds/16340/
March 26, 2009, 10:39:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Who knew it was a "conflict of interest" to criticize News Clowns on another site... 
 
Evidently, NH posters should hold that site's interests first and foremost at all times!
March 26, 2009, 11:45:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
By the way Ashley, I did some research on your name. It is in fact a male and female name. More so a female name today but was originally a male name. Why it change I don;t really know.
 
Of course you remember the name Ashley Wilkes.
 
Maybe poor Weston has an identity crisis. It sure is easy to get his goat.
Blackflon | 03.26.09 - 4:15 pm | # 
 
Thank you B for this post. Yes, you are correct, and certainly about Ashley Wilkes from GWTW (1939).
 
My name comes from my paternal line, the first Ashley goes back to around 1850. It was specifically a mans name until the mid 1970s when the soap opera The Young and the Restless created a female character named Ashley, and that character became very popular on the show. That's why you'll have a very hard time finding an Ashley that is older than about 35 years old. I'm older than that.
 
Yes, Michael Weston, aka the l'il feller, loves me. I'm all he can talk about. He likes talking about mens bodily fluids. I see why NH made him a moderator. I visited NH a couple of times over the past weekend, but the comments from Pegleg and the rest of the dopes using the nasty slurs against women, gays, sexual innuendo, the typical hater stuff, ain't worth the time.
March 27, 2009, 12:45:22 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Ashley
I watch the show pretty regularly, and I can't think of that level of rudeness with a Republican. Also, You haven't demonstrated Frank lied about anything. In order for you to justify the flipout you need to demonstrate that he did lie. Secondly, O'Reilly has done this with other democratic politicians, Dodd for instance and others whose names escape me but with google I could probably find. When has he doen this with a right-wing politcian? 
 
"So perhaps you can tell me one who deserved it. If you actually saw the Frank interview, you would know he deserved it"
 
I did see it, and I thought O'Reilly looked like an idiot. When the right complains of media treatment of one their own, like Palin getting asked "gotcha" questions, I always wonder how that compares to O'Reilly flat out shouting someone down. 
 
Anyway gotta go
shizzle | 03.26.09 - 5:57 pm | # 
 
Perhaps BOR hasn't done it to a republican politician because there hasn't been one that deserved it. What, because he gave it to someone on the left, he therefore has to give it to someone on the right?
 
I have to prove to you that Frank lied? I have to prove nothing. That thing has been analyzed to death and I'm not going to rehash it. Barney Frank was supposed to have provided oversight of Freddie and Frannie. He did nothing. When he claims the democrats are not responsible at all for the current financial mess, that is a flat out lie. They all have some level of responsibility.
March 27, 2009, 12:50:48 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Blackflon
vstol | 03.26.09 - 10:44 pm | # 
 
I'd be surprised if the Hounds of hate even know what the word "courteus" means.
March 27, 2009, 8:28:34 AM EDT – Like – Reply


Grammie
FF, that isn't what we meant by pididdle.
 
If a guy spotted it he got to kiss his date as well as all the other guys kiss their dates.
 
If a girl spotted it it was ladies choice.
 
Thanks for the nostalgia. I hadn't heard pididdle in many decades. In fact its been many decades since I was the blushing recipient of a pididdle. My generation spent a good twenty hours a week debating on what date to hold hands, let a boy put his arm over your shoulder, or that first kiss. We were so innocent and naive.
March 27, 2009, 3:54:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Grammie,
 
I can remember my brothers and their friends talking to girls, talking about girls, talking about going places so they could talk to new girls...
 
oy...
 
If we could channel a young man's interest in women into medicine or physics, we'd have long ago cured cancer and solved that nuclear fusion thing.
March 27, 2009, 4:28:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
Cecelia and Blackflon,
 
I lauged when I read in SM's NOB, "We have been courteous to you."
 
My response, which never saw the light of day at the NH lb:
 
I appreciate your sensitivity to my taking nayef to task. I haven't asked anything of him that he hasn't repeatedly askd me, even after I answered him.
 
If you could find an instance of me being untruthful, on any blog, about any subject, I could understand your position regarding me not belonging here anymore. Absent that, there's not much left to justify your decision that doesn't seem, at best, arbitrary, and at worst....well, I'd rather not say.
 
I'm actually stunned that you would describe the way I've been treated here as "courteous."
 
I will stand by the record, that when I've been treated in a courteous manner, I've returned that in kind. As a matter of fact, I have often remained courteous while being piled upon with vile, personal, vicious attacks and ridicule.
 
If having a desire for an honest, open, respectful discussion and debate about bias in the media means I have a conflict of interest, then I respectfully submit that it is you who actually has the conflict of interest.
March 27, 2009, 4:38:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Vstol,
 
Evidently they consider it a "conflict of interest" that you post on NH and then criticize other NH posters and mods at this site. 
 
Now, I wholeheartedly think that blog owners have the right to make their own rules about their property and to have them respected (it's the libertarian concern for property rights in me), but when they go as far as trying to manage you on someone else's site, that's pretty damn controlling!
 
I could understand if they demanded that you account for something you had said about them here, that they considered to be untrue or unfair, but just the mere fact that you had critiqued them at this site seemed to be their problem.
 
I don't know...had you signed a loyalty oath or something? 
March 27, 2009, 5:30:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply


vstol
The only sworn loyalty oath I've ever made is "I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." 
 
Since I no longer wear the uniform and am not under the UCMJ, by choice, my allegience remains to the Constitution.
March 28, 2009, 1:31:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply