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Mike C.
Re: "Hoyt rebuts Bill?": What hubris on the part of Sir Clark Hoyt. :-: (NOTE: I sarcastically give far-left figures sainthood and knighthood to indicate how they are perceived among their peers...and Keith Olbermann.)
May 30, 2009, 3:02:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Bravo, Andrea Tantaros, today on "Fox News Watch," for agreeing that conservatives and Republicans should not go after Judge Sotomayor. It's like what Dick Morris said Wednesday night on "The O'Reilly Factor": "She's gonna get confirmed; get out of the way of the truck [Democratic majority in the Senate]." But boo to Andrew Breitbart and Greg Gutfeld on "Red Eye" last night for taking the bait. Oh, it's "political correctness run amok," people that rightly (in their view) go after this woman have "b***s." I had to delete "Red Eye" from my DVR after that; one topic in to the first block of the show. It's too bad. Juliet Huddy was on and so was Ron Geraci. And I love Pinch (not in that way).
I know this was partially off-topic, but I had to get it off my mind.
May 30, 2009, 3:18:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Let me elaborate: Andrea said not to go after the Judge except on "the real credentials of being a judge." Exactly; on policy, not otherwise. Enough focusing on that one line at Berkeley eight years ago. I'm not defending the Judge; I just don't want the Republican Party to marginalize itself forever.
May 30, 2009, 3:23:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
fair & balanced Sen. Leahy is going to head up the hearings in the Senate. I am sure he agrees with yoiu that we don't want the Republican Party to marginalize itself forever in these hearings. We should just agree to take a pass on this nomination even though BHO was a leader in the judge Alito filibuster movement in the Senate. Sorry Mike, don't buy your take one bit.
May 30, 2009, 7:12:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Fine. Fight back and fight back hard. I hope the gamble pays off.
May 30, 2009, 8:03:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
It's times like this that I hate being a moderate. We get demonized more than the left. We're wimps, we're puny. And no, don't lump me in with the moderates that get their word out everywhere but FNC. You know which ones I'm talking about.
May 30, 2009, 8:07:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
It wasn't enough that I deleted "Red Eye." I ended up deleting "Huckabee," too. So much debate and things I disagree with and jumping in when the host isn't finished asking the question and saying the host "dish[es] it out" and "political correctness run amok." I'm through watching that stuff until Monday at 8PM. For now, it's sports and Food Network.
May 30, 2009, 8:42:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
"for now, it's sports and Food Network."
I think a little alone time with a young lady would do you some good too, sweety.
May 31, 2009, 12:12:52 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
I agree, Cece.
May 31, 2009, 1:09:01 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Well dang, as long as you're offering CC...
Johnny, please block my girlfriend's IP from your site. And Mike, GO WINGS!!!
May 31, 2009, 10:52:31 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
While MSNBC spends most of its airtime talking about Fox, BOR, and now Rush, it's Fox that spends its time talking about the news.
May 31, 2009, 1:55:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Just heard that Dr. Tiller (the Killer) was shot earlier today. Tiller is a well-known provider of late term abortions, who has been a subject of numerous stories on The Factor.
How long until one of the idiots at the Kennel blame Bill O'Reilly for this?
May 31, 2009, 2:00:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
Chickaboomer is on to something here.
I would move Larry to 8pm.
I would try to get Brian Lamb, Drew Carey, Clive Anderson, Andy Levy. Somebody in the John Charles Daily mode. to host
A panel of three or four. (some regulars, some rotate)
Audience, plus the internet vote. Also! Maybe lock 5 libs and 5 conservatives in a room and do a Frank Luntz type deal with those twisty boxes.
"National fun on live TV . . . that's the key!
Pres. Reagan could sell his points and make you laugh, so if Ron could do it.
And you just know CNN will pull a stunt, so you would have scandal.
This could work.
May 31, 2009, 2:08:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
What I want to see on the cable news networks an examination of the judge's rulings, connections with LaRaza & whether or not she thinks legislating from the bench is a proper role for a supreme court justice. She is going to be confirmed, they have the votes, but we on the other side at least want the questions put forward and answered.
May 31, 2009, 5:00:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
How long until one of the idiots at the Kennel blame Bill O'Reilly for this?
Ashley | 05.31.09 - 2:05 pm | #
As we speak, they are probably working on it for a Monday 'Countdown' segment for 'rip n' read'. We might even get a Special (for the good of humanity quit Bill O'Reilly) Comment.
May 31, 2009, 5:05:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
That's fine, David; just no personal attacks a la Olbermann.
May 31, 2009, 5:52:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
I agree, guys. Keith will definitely blame BOR for this tomorrow night. At the very least, he'll be Worst with "Toccata and Fugue in D Minor" faded out and theatrical indignation, faux outrage, and faux sadness used. And yes, it'll end with "for the good of humanity...quit!, Bill O'Reilly, today's Worst Person in the World."
May 31, 2009, 5:56:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Oh, and there'll also be "you, sir, have blood on your hands."
May 31, 2009, 5:58:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
How long until one of the idiots at the Kennel blame Bill O'Reilly for this?
Ashley | 05.31.09 - 2:05 pm | #
The Hen House ladies have already written 2 posts about Tiller re Fox and O'Reilly. And of course they are trying to lay blame in that direction.
A 3 year old could have predicted News Hounds' outrageous ignorance on this one.
May 31, 2009, 6:06:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
2008
How long until one of the idiots at the Kennel blame Bill O'Reilly for this?
Ashley | 05.31.09 - 2:05 pm | #
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Big Momma got right on it:
O'Reilly's Targeted Abortion Doctor Murdered At Church
Reported by Ellen - Sun 2:34 PM
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The first dim-witted sheep moved quickly to let the hate out:
When the police catch the murderer, they will confirm that Bildo's constant hate mongering was a contributory cause of Doctor Tiller's murder.
truman | 05.31.09 - 3:05 pm |
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The dolts and haters at the dog pound have absolutely no shame.
May 31, 2009, 6:08:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
That's fine, David; just no personal attacks a la Olbermann.
Mike C. | Homepage | 05.31.09 - 5:57 pm |
BECK: I don't like the charges of, "Oh, you're a racist. They're a racist." Very few people are racist.
There are racists and they're bad people. And -- but it's -- most Americans are good, just decent people, and I hate the charges and cries of racism. But when I hear this -- I mean, gee. She sure sounds like a racist here.
May 31, 2009, 6:36:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
But now, "The Factor" has evidence that indicates Tiller killed late-term fetuses by citing "temporary depression" on the part of the mother. That was the reason Tiller performed scores, perhaps thousands of late-term abortions.
In the state of Kansas, there is a doctor, George Tiller, who will execute babies for $5,000 if the mother is depressed.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,227658,00.html
Come on then. Kick your apology machine into high gear. Explain to the world how, first, this is true in spite of the fact that Dr Tiller was not convicted by a jury. And then explain how talking about a doctor who "executes babies" does not goad people to take violent action.
May 31, 2009, 6:45:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Well, I'm not sure what that's supposed to prove but if that "goaded" someone into action, they had to be moving in slow motion, since that's from over two years ago! That's quite a logical leap: a commentary aired in 2006 caused a shooting in 2009. But you are free to believe it if it satisfies your need.
May 31, 2009, 6:49:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Also, the Beck quote was from--shocker--Media Matters.
May 31, 2009, 6:54:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
johnny dollar | Homepage | 05.31.09 - 6:54 pm |
Would you like some more recent material? I'm assuming that you, and your people watch O'Reilly and are already aware, so I just cited just one example. So, do you want more?
So it's over 2 years old. Was it an inflammatory statement 2 years ago? Or do you think it was just fine to say that Dr Tiller "executes babies", and you support the speaker?
"That's quite a logical leap: a commentary aired in 2006 caused a shooting in 2009."
Ah, yes. There is impossible to prove an rhetoric "caused" a murder. It is also impossible to prove that rhetoric contributed to a murder. Though it would be interesting to see what a civil jury would think?
May 31, 2009, 7:03:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Also, the Beck quote was from--shocker--Media Matters.
Mike C. | Homepage | 05.31.09 - 6:59 pm | #
If it's a Beck quote", what does it matter where it is from.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT BECK DID NOT SAY THAT?
May 31, 2009, 7:04:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
The dogs are screaming about comments made over at Fox Nation concerning the murder of Dr. Tiller.
Seems the hounds are OUTRAGED!!! that people would be happy that Tiller is dead.
Funny they weren't outraged with their own posters were filled with glee over the death of Tony Snow.
May 31, 2009, 7:08:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"Though it would be interesting to see what a civil jury would think?"
It was be astounding if a civil jury ever heard the case. Even the most rudimentary understanding of the law makes that notion preposterous on its face.
May 31, 2009, 7:11:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
johnny dollar | Homepage | 05.31.09 - 7:16 pm |
Yes, you are probably right, but it would still be interesting what a jury would conclude.
But leaving aside strictly legal culpability, I repeat,
"So it's over 2 years old. Was it an inflammatory statement 2 years ago? Or do you think it was just fine to say that Dr Tiller "executes babies", and you support the speaker?"
May 31, 2009, 7:26:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Ashley | 05.31.09 - 7:13 pm |
So are you OUTRAGED!!! that people would be happy that Tiller is dead?
May 31, 2009, 7:28:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mr. 10 Inches
BOR can claim that Rap music contributes to violence but we are to believe that inflammatory rhetoric against a doctor can't do the same?
May 31, 2009, 7:30:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
2008
Though it would be interesting to see what a civil jury would think?
notveryhow | 05.31.09 - 7:08 pm | #
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As Jonny so accurately pointed out, that's just not going to happen. I see claudo has posted the Fox address and phone numbers at the dog pound for the millionth time, why don't you call and mail them. I'm sure they would pay great attention to your obvious concerns.
May 31, 2009, 7:38:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
The old those-are-his-words-it-doesn't-matter-where-I-get-it-from excuse.
May 31, 2009, 7:39:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
So are you OUTRAGED!!! that people would be happy that Tiller is dead?
notveryhow | 05.31.09 - 7:33 pm | #
I don't post there.
If I did, I would say something in complaint about any signs of glee over the mans murder.
But you post at NH. Why don't you tell us what you did in response to your fellows posters expression of glee over Tony Snow's death?
May 31, 2009, 9:29:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
As Jonny so accurately pointed out, that's just not going to happen. I see claudo has posted the Fox address and phone numbers at the dog pound for the millionth time, why don't you call and mail them. I'm sure they would pay great attention to your obvious concerns.
2008 | Homepage | 05.31.09 - 7:43 pm | #
So interesting that the same people who wished for BOR to be raped and murdered, are angry for BOR to call for anyone to be prosecuted.
Of course not all of them wished for that. It was the work of one person, (one very stupid person), but the post resided there for quite some time. NO ONE THERE spoke up about it. To them, it seemed like a reasonable thought.
May 31, 2009, 9:46:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
alicia
This stupid person killed Dr. Tiller in a church a place of peace. No one should speak ill about the dead. Tony Snow died a natural death. This doctor was murdered. He was murdered he was murdered. Dr. Tiller was murdered. Let it sink in. Murdered in a church! Now wipe your brow Oreilly.
May 31, 2009, 11:37:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
So are you OUTRAGED!!! that people would be happy that Tiller is dead?
notveryhow | 05.31.09 - 7:33 pm | #
You mean the way the far lefties danced with glee when Tony Snow died? Were you OUTRAGED?
May 31, 2009, 11:41:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
Tony Snow died a natural death.
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I didn't see this till after I posted my previous post. Why would it matter how a person dies?
May 31, 2009, 11:43:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Alicia - let this sink in.
Bill O'Reilly did not murder the man.
May 31, 2009, 11:48:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"Bill O'Reilly did not murder the man."
Give it time. The Fox haters are just getting started. How long will it be before we read that O'Reilly is somehow "responsible"? I'll go out on a limb and say someone has already posted that sentiment somewhere. (Does a quick check...)
OK, we've already reached that point:
http://tinyurl.com/nzs465
May 31, 2009, 11:51:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
I posted some of what I said here at OlbyWatch, where I've been reprimanded twice for my constant linking to FNC and clips from "The Factor" and for taking 10 to 30 minutes out of my evening to transcribe segments that don't have transcripts or video readily available online. It hurts.
June 1, 2009, 12:24:59 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
notveryhow, it's not "rhetoric" to say that Tiller "executed babies", it's a fact, in my book.
It may be legal execution, in the way that capital punishment is legal, but it's state sanction execution, nontheless.
What sort of pretty term would you like supplied for the process of terminating the life of the same sort of infants who populate neonatal units?
Is that justification for murdering a doctor who unfortunately was acting legally. Hell no. But it's reasonable to assume that if this man's business could dismay and horrify decent people (I'm sure you'll admit there are good people who are pro-life), it could also dismay and enrage warped people too.
That risk is NOT reason enough for squelching the speech of people who are describing this practice exactly as they see it-- execution. And describing it in such terms because they wish people to take a good hard look at procedure that might not be legal if it were up to legislatures instead of courts.
Dr Tiller chose to perform a controversial medical prodecure fully aware of the horror it instills in a large number of the population, legal procedure or not. He was more than aware of the risk.
It's a bit much to ask those people his practices horrifed to pull their "rhetorical" punches or else be blamed and accused when a bloody man falls into the hands of another bloody man.
June 1, 2009, 4:11:26 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
BOR can claim that Rap music contributes to violence but we are to believe that inflammatory rhetoric against a doctor can't do the same?
Mr. 10 Inches | 05.31.09 - 7:35 pm | #
With that logic any inflammatory political rhetoric or strong denounciations of perceived wrongs would be tantamount to abetting violence.
Rap music contributes to violence because in many cases, it directly champions and glories violence.
June 1, 2009, 4:36:14 AM EDT – Like – Reply
alicia
I didnt say Oreilly killed Tiller.
June 1, 2009, 6:14:04 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Now wipe your brow Oreilly.
alicia | 05.31.09 - 11:42 pm | #
I didnt say Oreilly killed Tiller.
alicia | 06.01.09 - 6:19 am | #
Your implication was that he was somehow responsible at some level for some whack job murdering the doctor.
June 1, 2009, 11:00:19 AM EDT – Like – Reply
KR
Keith Olbermann is a two-bit, pear-shaped left-wing hack who #### on women after giving them a thumbs(tack) down performance (Keith, the little wee wee who couldn't).
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June 9, 2009, 4:22:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
