Thursday Cable News Links and Open Thread
Jeff Zucker's wet kiss.
Wednesday's numbers: Bill-Beck-Bret 1-2-3. Tuesday's numbers: Bill-Beck-Bret 1-2-3.
Tip-toeing around 'terrorism'. Twitter silence: day 22.
Q&A: Geist, Maddow, John Gibson. Who's trusted?
Profile: Sandra Smith. FNC hires Prann.
Wallace: Joe's an idiot! Joe vs Bozell part deux.
Hotline after dark. Faber re-ups. Broken govt redux.
Updated through the day. Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in today's open thread. fox news cable
Blackflon
Hey Johnny, the next time Ellen or one of her dog washers complains about your site not strictly adhering to what they believe your site should be about, remind them of this.
Is The History Channel Pushing Right Wing Smears Of The Kennedys?Reported by Ellen - February 17, 2010 - Comments (7) Ellen and her myrmidons are always saying that they only cover Fox but somehow they find time to bring in the second rate filmaker Greenwald and now they want to make sure some truths about the Kennedy's don't get out.Of course they don't have the same passion when a Republican get smeared.Why do the News Hounds love Johnny Dollar?
February 18, 2010, 8:04:59 AM EST – Like – Reply
Tina
Glen Beck's dog barking scene from yesterday's show was hysterical. Reporting facts in such an entertaining fashion is why Beck is number one in his time slot. Too funny.
February 18, 2010, 8:50:54 AM EST – Like – Reply
Danny
Tina,
I saw that show too. Beck is entertaining and he is saying things that need to be said; even more so than Hannity and O'reilly (though I like their shows too). I really wish that Beck's show could be on prime time, not for my benefit, but so that more people could hear what he has to say. I think that if his show were on prime time, he would have more viewers than O'reilly. That would be good for Fox and good for the country.
February 18, 2010, 11:26:24 AM EST – Like – Reply
Puck30
Well gee Danny, which FNC show which is #1 in their timeslot. Should be cancelled?
Which person who has worked hard to put together a show that wins their timeslot night after night should step down?
I love this! O'Reilly, Hannity, Greta, Shep. Put on the best cable news show in their timeslot. But one of them has to go, so Glenn Beck can now work 13, 14, 15 hours a day.
So not only do we get to tell somebody who busts their butt night after night they are out of a job. But we can tell Glenn's wife and his kids. Forget about seeing Glenn except for the few hours he gets to sleep under your roof.
I can just see it now, O'Reilly, Hannity, Greta, we here at FNC see that you have been wining your timeslot for many years. And to show our appreciation for the great work you've done, we are going to CANCEL your show.
And Glenn since you are doing such a great job at your timeslot, we are going to move you to a later timeslot, so you can work 13-15 hours. 5 days a week!
But hey, it's good for the country.
Dude, get a DVR. OR! are you a MSNBC programming executive?
WHY? WHY? WHY? Would you want to break up a winning hand? It's Insaine!
Go program MSNBC or CNN. They like silly ideas.
February 18, 2010, 4:40:58 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
MSNBC is the network that can't come up with a LIVE program at 7pm so they repeat Hardball-what moron thought of that-I swear idiots run MSNBC
February 18, 2010, 6:49:10 PM EST – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Johnny, I enjoy Sandra Smith and my homeboy Collin McShane on FBN.
February 18, 2010, 11:42:42 AM EST – Like – Reply
Danny
For someone who says that he champions limited government, Joe is acting very strangely; attacking those who are leading the fight for that very principle. Correct me if I am wrong, but my impression (doesn't have to be the truth) is that Joe is doing better than most or all of the other shows on MSNBC. If that's true, it would be ironic that liberal MSNBC's best show is headed by someone who claims to be a conservative. You'd think that would teach the management something. The previous management couldn't figure it out; maybe Comcast will.
February 18, 2010, 12:39:42 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Well Joe's morning show is typically third, behind F&F and CNN's American Morning. It has slipped behind HLN on occasion. He does OK but check any of our daily 'numbers' links, which include the morning shows, to see how his viewership compares.
February 18, 2010, 12:49:14 PM EST – Like – Reply
Danny
I stand corrected. Thanks.
February 18, 2010, 1:30:17 PM EST – Like – Reply
Puck30
Here Danny, look at this picture. This all you need to know about Joe.
<img src="http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlLA/original/huffpomika.jpg" alt="huffpomika.jpg"/>
February 18, 2010, 4:52:46 PM EST – Like – Reply
Danny
haha pretty funny Puck. but don't send me anything else until monday. I will be gone until then.
February 18, 2010, 5:00:08 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Puck..what exactly are you seeing in that picture?....What sort of conspiracy is your mind coming up with....Did Joe slip that hand down after the photo was taken so he could cop a feel?...Is that it?
February 18, 2010, 6:56:01 PM EST – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Re: "FNC hires Prann": As a result, her traffic violation is a crime against humanity and proof of how evil Fox people are and how little regard they have for the law. Eh, Newshounds, News Corpse, etc.?
February 18, 2010, 2:54:14 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
CNN Rick Sanchez-'nuff said on that
February 18, 2010, 3:10:39 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Yeah and they still have a hole card: Jack Cafferty!
February 18, 2010, 3:11:54 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Erickson of RedState had this to say at CPAC: talking about right-wing infrastructure "we've got Fox News"
Thanks for admiting this finally....but everyone has know this for an age..but it's still nice to hear the Right say they have FNC in their pocket.
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201002180034
February 18, 2010, 2:58:07 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
and the democrats have ABC,CBS,NBC,NY TIMES, CNN,MSNBC, LA TIMES, and countless of others-and your point Haggis???
February 18, 2010, 3:10:17 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Thanks Chris for dishing up the usual talking points...But everyone know FNC are hand-in-glove with the Right....and it's not a lefty saying this...but an uber-Righty.
I bet most of you just wet your pants when Cheney turned up at CPAC today.
February 18, 2010, 3:34:14 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
I don't care for cheney that much-I think he should just shut his yap and go "away" meaning out of the public spotlight (like what Bush did)
and thank you for your usual talking points haggis
February 18, 2010, 3:45:20 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
"and thank you for your usual talking points haggis"
Not my talking points...you need to head over to RedState and have a word with Mr. Erickson...he's the one saying "we've got Fox News....just watch the video.
I do agree with you on Cheney.
February 18, 2010, 3:57:12 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
If I felt like it I could say head on over to daily kos, they're the ones saying 'we have MSNBC". But I don't really feel like it. So ignore that.
February 18, 2010, 3:58:37 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
OK I'll ignore that...but your silence on the Erickson remarks are telling.
February 18, 2010, 4:02:51 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
Haggis, your silence on your slur against Bret Baier is also telling.
February 18, 2010, 4:04:16 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
We're not talking about that....so don't try and steer the conversation...Ashley what have you got to say about the Erickson remark that "we've got Fox News"
February 18, 2010, 4:13:13 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
We're not talking about that....so don't try and stear the convesation....Ashley, I'm assumeing you agree with Erickson.
Haggis, as I demonstrated dozens and dozens of times over the past 12 months or so, your analyis skills are quite weak. You are somehow trying to make a case that these few words uttered by Erickson somehow proves that Fox is controlled by the RNC. That's complete nonsense and you know it. We know what he means and one would think that Johnny's comments to you would put this to rest with you, but you like to stir things up, which based on your posting history at J$P, may be the only thing you can do well.
February 18, 2010, 4:20:22 PM EST – Like – Reply
Puck30
Hey! I wish I could say, but your silence on the daily MSNBC remarks are telling. But that would be going over old news.
BTW: What's up with your buddy Shuster? Is he in 'Twitter Timeout'? And Haggis? watch this video because one of your favorite cable news hosts does a cameo in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThEAO0lt4Dw
February 18, 2010, 5:03:22 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
I'll take a couple of "UH" any day....nice video non the less...thankfully he can string a sentence together that makes perfect sense...now lets check out your hero....LMAO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWuIEIBN3sY&feature=related
Ooooooh dear
February 18, 2010, 6:14:46 PM EST – Like – Reply
Puck30
Ooooooooh dear!
Oh my! How you have goofed! What ever gave you the idea I was a Republican? Just because I watch a few shows on FNC? Well, my friend if you want to go that route then with all the shows you watch on FNC compaired to me. You must be some far right wing nut job!
And just so you know, so you don't step in it again. Here's who I support and have been since 2004.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9GMe5RkRNk
Two Things: So much stuff in this video you folks use to rail against until Mr. 'Uh' got into office. And now you support it?
And the other is why does your side always paints anybody that disagrees with you a Bush supporter? That's very narrow minded of you.
February 18, 2010, 7:06:02 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
You must have been throwing all sort at the TV during the primaries...FNC treated Ron absolutely atrociously....I'm surprised you watch anything on FNC after that...Hannity was probably the worst.
I still go back to the severe spanking Gibbs gave Hannity....priceless TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgn6rjGbp0c
February 18, 2010, 7:23:34 PM EST – Like – Reply
Puck30
Hannity? Like I've said before many times on this site. I don't watch him. But just because Hannity went after Ron Paul I should stop watching the whole channel? Dr. Paul goes on Cavuto, Judge Nap & Beck, I judge each on his or her's own presentation (show).
Now if you don't understand this next question, make sure you go back and watch the 'Man of The Year Video'. Here is my question: Why do people who spent all their time being anti-war when Bush was in. Now have no problem playing 'World Cop' with Obama in there?
Why do people who spent all their time railing against the free spending Republicans & George Bush, now have no problem with Obama & the Democrats blowing the lid off the budget?
Instead of staying true to their convictions when Bush was in office. They now spend all that time and energy watching 24 hours a day, for one guy, to say one sentence, on one cable news station? And become obsessed with it to the point they have to post this one sentence, out of a whole day of programing on a website. While not giving a rats you know what that our troops are getting killed & the Country is about to go bankrupt because of the Current government in charge? Why? Haggis? Why?
Is your precious MSNBC perfect 24 hours a day? no I don't think so. Does the Obama White House have them in their back pocket? You betcha!
http://www.mediaite.com/online/did-dnc-chair-tim-kaine-get-his-cable-news-talking-points-from-rachel-maddow/
What about CNN? Could you tell who their Conservative Shaun Hannity is? No, you can't, cause there ain't one. Gee, I wonder why their ratings along with MSNBC & HLN's are in the dumper?
Because they don't have any Conservative voices on their channels, that's right Haggis. They don't allow free speech. And that's their privilege. But it's also mine and a whole lot of people's preogative to have the free choice to tune to a channel, so we can hear if we choose another point of view and make up our own minds.
And Baby! That's What We Call FREEDOM here in the U.S.A.! And that freedom is also extended to those who want to have a narrow vision from what a third rate hound dog website TELLS them what to think.
February 18, 2010, 9:53:35 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Puck...I did reply but Johnny must have his finger hovering over the delete button tonight.
February 18, 2010, 7:36:26 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Please don't lie. Nothing of yours has been deleted. Yet.
February 18, 2010, 7:41:34 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
it did disappear after a refresh...but has now reappeared...I apologize.
February 18, 2010, 7:47:09 PM EST – Like – Reply
Grammie
Is there any way that I can capture KO from that and have it made into a poster?
That shot of him says it all for me.
Thanks, Puck!
February 18, 2010, 7:12:48 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Just a quick effort....the skeleton is about to start.
PICTURES
February 18, 2010, 7:33:04 PM EST – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Haggis, before talk radio took off and Fox came along there was little balance in the media.
It probably shouldn't be that way but since it is, just go with the flow and be glad that
you can now get information from both sides.
February 18, 2010, 4:18:08 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley...It's Erickson that thinks FNC is hand-in-glove with the RNC....I know it is...and it's now nice to see a Righty is singing from the same hymn sheet.
I assume you disagree with Blackflon?...He' seems to be backing up the Erickson comment.
February 18, 2010, 4:31:08 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
It's Erickson that thinks FNC is hand-in-glove with the RNC
He didn't say it, that's your analysis, now you've become a mindreader! "It's Erickson that thinks". Your analysis, and as usual, you are not correct.
February 18, 2010, 4:34:21 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Erickson said "we've got Fox News" not "we may have Fox News".....Ashley, there doesn't seem to be much wiggle room there...but keep trying anyway.
February 18, 2010, 4:42:15 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
Erickson said "we've got Fox News" not "we may have Fox News".....
Haggis, as usual, your scolding of me is wrong. I never claimed Ericksons said "we may have Fox News as you alleged in your 1:34 (Pacific) post. You are right, there is very little wiggle room here. You are off base and have no where to go. May I suggest you return to MM for new talking points. This subject has grown old and you have nothing.
February 18, 2010, 4:48:49 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
"This subject has grown old"
I thought it would grow old very quickly with folk here...Ashley you have to admit....there's nothing worse than being over a barrel and getting a good spanking..OUCH!!
February 18, 2010, 6:34:59 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
there's nothing worse than being over a barrel and getting a good spanking..OUCH!!
You would know, we wouldn't.
February 18, 2010, 6:37:01 PM EST – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Haggis, Erickson didn't say FNC was hand-in-glove with the RNC. He said, "we've got Fox". Anyone with 2 ounces of common sense knows what that means. Unfortunately you miss the point of his statement.
February 18, 2010, 5:35:05 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Please explain what he means by "we've got Fox News"
Cripes I've misunderstood him...of course he was really meaning "we've got Fox News" at the convention...is that it?
February 18, 2010, 6:22:36 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I'm pretty sure he means by "we've got Fox News" as in FNC is the only channel that gives any kind of counterpoint to the liberal agenda. Fair and balanced, Haggis. Most of the rest shout from one side. FNC allows both. It's why they're #1.
February 18, 2010, 9:03:14 PM EST – Like – Reply
Blackflon
See, I told you Haggis missed the point.
February 19, 2010, 8:12:02 AM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
I find this very intersting- Tiller was murdered last year-Olby called it "domestic terrorism"-also when Ft. Hood happened-obermann didnt call it terrorism-and now this-the media plays around with the word "terrorism" meaing one act is and the other isnt-it strikes me has odd. it struck me while reading the NYTimes article
February 18, 2010, 3:56:37 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
Haggis has some guest "liking" all of his posts. I wonder who this anonymous li'l feller is?
February 18, 2010, 4:44:26 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Stan.
February 18, 2010, 4:45:00 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
1-0 Haggis.....The famous J$ e-mail has gone out....saying....
**URGENT**
Get off this Erickson stuff fast....Haggis is pounding us badly.
J.Dollar
"guest "liking" all of his posts"
it's obviously someone who knows I'm talking complete sense
February 18, 2010, 4:53:10 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
shoot-I didnt get that e-mail-and haggis why should anyone of us care about what Erickson said or thinks? seriously-I don't give a rats ass what he thinks or said today
February 18, 2010, 6:40:09 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
Haggis is pounding us badly.
Haggy - you are completely deluded if you think that.
That guest is probably Patrick, the li'l feller. He's the one who openly called for BOR to be raped and murdered, he's best known for his slurs against blacks and gays. So deluded himself, you do make sense to him!
February 18, 2010, 4:55:01 PM EST – Like – Reply
guest "liking" all of his posts
Johnny is usually first to get after Haggis but not a word about erickson from him
Are you a erickson fan johnny?
February 18, 2010, 5:08:08 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
Johnny is usually first to get after Haggis
Guest, if you say that you must be a regular reader of J$P. Have you posted here before and, if so, what was your name you posted under?
February 18, 2010, 6:54:09 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley, I feel your desperately trying to steer the conversation away from Erickson....why might that be? and why are you worried about folk liking my posts?
February 18, 2010, 5:14:39 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
What's wrong with Ericson's words? Is it that bad that he feels that a media outlet treats his party as well as anothers? The horror that one media outlet is fair and balanced!
February 18, 2010, 9:05:43 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
Ashley, I feel your desperately trying to steer the conversation away from Erickson....why might that be?
Steer the conversation away? Sorry Haggy, but your analysis is wrong again. I just think it's sad that you would slur Bret Baier and refuse to back up your claim. He's a good man.
and why are you worried about folk liking my posts?
Worried? Not me Haggy, once again your analysis is wrong, dead wrong. I am just LMAO that the only one on your side may be the li'l feller.
There's only one thing more pathetic than that. That's if the guest really was Stan! (an well founded theory by J$)
February 18, 2010, 6:23:40 PM EST – Like – Reply
Grammie
Wow, this Ericson MUST carry some serious credibility with Haggis based on his fascination and uncritical acceptance of one phrase as having the weight and importance of the Sermon on the Mount!
So, what else has he said lately, Haggis? I don't follow Red State and am not quite sure I even know who Ericson is.
However, if someone of your discerning acumen is prepared to accept one little phrase from him and to stretch it out to such importance I think I should look into it.
February 18, 2010, 7:20:43 PM EST – Like – Reply
Grammie
Thanks, Haggis.
As for your comment I noticed that it was the top comment featured in the Comment Rail yet when I clicked on it your comment was not there.
That happened several times in short time so I went off to do a little research and when I came back your comment appeared and you were complaining about it.
February 18, 2010, 7:55:05 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Thanks Grammie for backing up my claim that the comment vanished.
This has happened before...only for them to appear again minutes latter....maybe a glitch in the JS-Kit software.
February 18, 2010, 8:02:13 PM EST – Like – Reply
Grammie
I'm sorry, Haggis, but I had no idea that this was a contest and that I was "taking sides".
That was not my intent. My intent was simply to report what I saw in hopes someone could identify the problem.
Your comment appeared in the right hand rail for several minutes before appearing in the body of the comment section. I would say that there is a periodic delay from the rail to the comment section.
February 18, 2010, 8:16:20 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
No contest here.....Johnny said I lied about the post vanishing....I was simply thanking you for telling us that it had also vanished when you checked it. I'm sure Johnny wont hold it against you.
February 18, 2010, 8:25:14 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I did not say you lied. I asked you not to lie. That's not the same thing. But I accept your apology.
February 18, 2010, 8:30:25 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Wowzers!!...go...go...go...gadget legal speak.
Maybe in lawyerly circles they mean two different things...but to me it means the same.
February 18, 2010, 8:38:45 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Considering we in the colonies got our language from you guys, I would think you'd be more careful at reading it. But with all your elephant trunks or whatever, I understand.
February 18, 2010, 8:49:33 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
But I didn't lie...Grammie backs up my claim....I'd say you were a bit quick off the mark...So I'll happily accept an apology..like I gave before Grammie came forward with corroborating evidence.
February 18, 2010, 8:59:23 PM EST – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
Haggy smoker, consider yourself very lucky to be here. The love of your life aka ellen, would have made phony posts in your name, made several personal attacks against you and banned you before having a chance to respond.
February 18, 2010, 8:53:30 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
"would have made phony posts in your name...."
I suppose you can substantiate that claim?
February 18, 2010, 9:07:12 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
OS...I'm waiting.
February 18, 2010, 9:30:39 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
Olbermoron is one messed up guy: During his "not worst" segment tonight (really "worst person in the world") he said of Coulter "If this guy wants to live his life has a woman I'm all for it"
February 18, 2010, 8:55:43 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
oops it actually was " "If this guy wants to live his life has a woman I'm going to back his choice up 100% percent"
February 18, 2010, 8:57:42 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Chris...you obviously haven't seen that apple
February 18, 2010, 9:05:05 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Haggis. I'm sure you have something much better in your bed each night. :|
February 18, 2010, 9:16:29 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
I certainly do....she has a nice slender throat...and there's no hint of a granny smith down there
February 18, 2010, 9:27:57 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Is she a Real Doll?
February 18, 2010, 9:43:20 PM EST – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
Classy.
February 18, 2010, 9:13:02 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
Olbermoron is on Lettermen tonight-another moron
February 18, 2010, 9:18:10 PM EST – Like – Reply
Puck30
Dave! Please help me! My viewership has dipped below a million, even with the Olympics as a lead in.
February 18, 2010, 10:11:00 PM EST – Like – Reply
Puck30
If Olby is going on Letterman, since he tapes at 5pm I'm sure Olby and Dave will talk about how this guy with the plane today was a far right wing teabagger rascist yada, yada, yada. And the crowd will eat it up.
Meanwhile, over at FNC at that same hour, somebody who's staff did their work. Will present another picture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNo2zJsVz0w
Is there any wonder why this show is breaking records? Is it any wonder why a guy with a 'C' Average in high school, beats a man with a 'Chicken and Cow' Diploma?
February 18, 2010, 10:39:53 PM EST – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
Thanks for posting that, puck. I was busy outside and didn't catch it. Good stuff.
February 19, 2010, 12:11:20 AM EST – Like – Reply
