3/3/09 1:21 PM

Tuesday Links & Open Thread

Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:

Informed media analysis of Fox...by Rachel Maddow!

Friday's numbers.

Video: Juan Williams chokes up.

Coverage reviews. Awkward ad?

Change comes to news.

Cablers visit HuffPo.

Media consolidation: a good thing?

MSNBC: We're great!

John King's inaugural thoughts.

Kurtz: a media celebration.

CNBC's suspect sources (via ICN).

MSNBC's non-ideological anchors.

CNN's gaza coverage: horrific!

Megyn's DC diary. More.

I-Day arrives: can CNN cash in?

J$P 24-Hour Poll [closed]: Rate Glenn Beck's premiere:


Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.




Olby Sucks
"She characterized the cable network’s coverage (cnn) as “horrific ” and “one-sided” and its failure to check facts “very egregious.”  
 
Funny, most of the newshounds posters have been applauding cnn's coverage of the gaza conflict as "the most fair and balanced."
January 20, 2009, 1:20:27 AM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Johnny, did you put that F&F starts at 5AM in there for john t? What if he's in a different time zone, does he have to wait 3 hours to see it? I'm sure john t can correct you here if you're mistaken...
January 20, 2009, 7:10:00 AM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Opening salvo of KO Bush bashing had everything but a rim shot.
 
Describing the enthusiasm of the crowd, Matthews opined, "Well, I guess if you wait 400 years, a few hours in the cold is doable."
 
LowBloKO responds, "The minimum eligibility for this group is 8 years of waiting."
 
Good night and good luck. I'm going to take a shower
January 20, 2009, 10:15:49 AM EST – Like – Reply


Kirk G
I watched MSNBS for a few minutes (that is all I could take) they spent the whole time bashing Bush, these people will just not let it go. Now the question is who do they bash now.
January 20, 2009, 1:10:43 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Kirk G | 01.20.09 - 1:15 pm  
 
They did not spend the whole time bashing Bush, maybe half but not the whole time.
January 20, 2009, 1:38:15 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Memo  
 
To: Mr. Chris Matthews
From: Ashley from J$P
Date: January 20, 2009
Subject: MSNBC being great
 
If MSNBC is so great, why do your ratings stink out loud?
January 20, 2009, 1:42:46 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
President Obama....That sounds good  
 
Wowzers!!....Even the WH website looks good  
 
http://img234.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=78964_Welcome_to_the_White_House_122_26lo.JPG
 
Stupendous coverage on CNN.
January 20, 2009, 1:47:42 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
President Obama....That sounds good
 
Wowzers!!....Even the WH website looks good
 
http://img234.imagevenue.com/ img...se_122_26lo.JPG
 
Stupendous coverage on CNN.
HaggisFarmer | 01.20.09 - 1:52 pm | #  
 
That's not the White House website.
 
Good lord, surely even CNN has a champion with more acumen.
January 20, 2009, 2:00:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Cecelia | 01.20.09 - 2:05 pm |
 
Trusty Cecelia...Never stops jabbing with that pencil...Even on this historic day.
 
"That's not the White House website."
 
I did know that...It's an image of the site hosted on imagevenue.
January 20, 2009, 2:15:45 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
HaggisFarmer | 01.20.09 - 2:20 pm | #  
 
Historic? Did I miss something?
January 20, 2009, 2:35:15 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
O, yes. The terrorist association thingy. How soo I forget. That is historic, indeed.
January 20, 2009, 2:39:09 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Is msnbc still avoiding the 170 million dollar thingy at all costs? Oh, I made a funny! :lol:
January 20, 2009, 2:42:07 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Olby Sucks | 01.20.09 - 2:40 pm | #  
Even on a day like this you still have to go Palin on us and be Mr. Negative.
 
O, yes. The terrorist association thingy. How soo I forget. That is historic, indeed.
Olby Sucks | 01.20.09 - 2:44  
Even McCain said no of that was true, a meeting is not an association, I work with a man who was indicted for Insurance fraud, does that make me a criminal too.
Olby Sucks | 01.20.09 - 2:47 pm  
 
Do realize this is the biggest inauguaration in history and the first time an African American has been president, alot of this money was used for security. Get over your sadness of change and deal with it.
January 20, 2009, 3:35:37 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Uh, he's only half.
January 20, 2009, 3:37:19 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Get over your sadness of change and deal with it.
Bababooey | 01.20.09 - 3:40 pm | #  
 
What change? You mean from Bush to Billary? That cange
January 20, 2009, 3:39:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Reminder. Two words: cable news.
January 20, 2009, 3:41:48 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Even on a day like this you still have to go Palin on us and be Mr. Negative.
Bababooey | 01.20.09 - 3:40 pm | #  
 
You obviously missed Gov. Palin on Glenn Beck's debut program, on FOX News-the #1 CABLE NEWS network.
 
Your negativity is showing.
January 20, 2009, 3:53:14 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
You obviously missed Gov. Palin on Glenn Beck's debut program,  
vstol | Homepage | 01.20.09 - 3:58 pm |
 
I'm sure she did a fine job. But...today...everyone is looking to the future...and not the past...as she is (for) now.
January 20, 2009, 4:01:48 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Re: We're great
 
There is going to come a day when all the moral coinage MSNBC has tried to bleed from Pres. Obama's status as first black president will seem as opportunistically agenda-driven and as against the ethics of good journalism, as it is.
 
Sooner than you think.
January 20, 2009, 4:10:31 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I must say I wasn't thrilled with Mrs. Obama's inaugural outfit.
 
The fabric was bulky and made her look heavy. The color was a snore.
 
This is the second occasion that Mrs. Obama, who looks great every other day of the year, picked a loser to wear on a BIG day
 
She did the same thing at the convention the night Obama accepted the nomination.
 
I hope this doesn't bode ill for the inaugural ball.
January 20, 2009, 4:34:54 PM EST – Like – Reply


HaggisFarmer
Cecelia | 01.20.09 - 4:39 pm |
 
And I suppose Laura just looked peachy?
Lets all hope Megan Kelly doesn't make any fashion statements this time round.
January 20, 2009, 4:50:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
haggy, no historical facts?
January 20, 2009, 4:57:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


SteveMG
Juan Williams was stunningly moving. Just incredible.
 
For anyone to call him a, well I don't need to repeat the smears, is just dumb. Watch that tape and tell me he's a "Uncle Tom".
 
Thanks J$ for linking it.
January 20, 2009, 5:15:21 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
And I suppose Laura just looked peachy?
Lets all hope Megan Kelly doesn't make any fashion statements this time round.
HaggisFarmer | 01.20.09 - 4:55 pm | #  
 
Mrs. Bush dressed in sedate dove gray in order to focus the attention on Mrs. Obama.
 
As for Megyn Kelly, you're the first man I've ever heard wishing her not to make a fashion statement.
 
(anyone surprised?...)
January 20, 2009, 5:21:52 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Most media outlest are reporting the inaugural attendee numbers to be falling about 5 million short of the estimated 6 million. Gotta love that media hype!
January 20, 2009, 5:25:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Cece, Haggie is simply recycling one of the favorite smears about Megyn Kelly. She remarked at the DNC re several women speakers whose clothes were close in color to the background behind the podium. She said it wasn't a good move for them to wear those colors under those circumstances because they don't stand out enough from the backdrop. The haters turned that into Megyn Kelly was telling "black women" not to wear "certain colors". It's a time-honored lie, and therefore appropriate that it should be referenced again by HF.
January 20, 2009, 5:53:53 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
haggy is simply parroting his fav blog aka newshounds.
January 20, 2009, 6:19:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Cecelia, I am so glad that both Hume (Fox makeupladies said she looked fsntastic) and Wallace (don't remember) mentioned the clothes.
 
I absolutely agree about Mrs Bush. I noticed that the President's coat covered his shirt and tie to the point he almost looked nondescript. I thought her suit looked more of an oatmeal color and and had beautiful but very simple lines. When I saw them come out to greet the obamas that was he exact thought that I had that they made an effort to step back and let the light shine on the Obamas.
 
Surprise, I agree with you that Mrs Obama's wardrobe and fashion sense seems to fail her when she needs to look her best. I have generqally liked her style. The outfit today was a mess. That bulky material was described as a gold brocade by one anchor. I know I come from an earlier generation that had strict more formal rules of dress but even then Gold brocade with either Austrian crystals (or rhinestones) for morning prayer service and a luncheon followed by a parade is downright tacky.
 
I am steeped so far in blood now I may as well go on as back. rs Bide is a very attractive woman with a very trim figure but she looked awful. Knee high boots with a modified mini skirt left her with a two foot swath of white knobby knees showing.
 
And Lynne Cheney looked like she her red knitted gloves stuck on her hands in an ocean of sophisticated black. Tacky, tacky tacky again.
 
Mrs Robinson (?), Mrs Obama' mother, had red knit hat, gloves and scarf ensemble that looked like a well thought out outfit that she looked lovely in. Her granddaughters were very nicely and appropriately dressed and looked lovely. They also handled themselves quite well. Those children are obviously the product of sensible and concerned adults who have given them very good guidance.
 
Mrs Bush, Sr looked nice as she always does. She is a master at being appropriately dressed with no faux pas but not high fashion either.
 
Now that I've gotten that out I will go back to usual lovable and charming self that butter wouldn't melt in my mouth!
January 20, 2009, 6:23:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
johnny dollar | Homepage | 01.20.09 - 5:58 pm | #  
 
As I watch Bret Baier on FNC, I can't help but think of other Haggis smears.
January 20, 2009, 6:24:08 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Haggis smears.
Ashley | 01.20.09 - 6:29 pm | #
 
Skid marks? (sorry Haggis, couldn't help myself)
January 20, 2009, 6:37:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Even on a day like this you still have to go Palin on us and be Mr. Negative.
Bababooey | 01.20.09 - 3:40 pm | #  
 
That's like saying "Hey, watch your language you son of a b&^*# rat b@$t@#d".
 
Will the fine Governor of the Great State of Alaska ever be free of liberal rage? And on a day like today. Sheesh!!
January 20, 2009, 6:38:02 PM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
"Obama's efforts to appease ther right wing had better slow down - He just had the chief justice mangtle the oath of office - does he think that was a mastaks? No way!
Report  
By RBEHjohn on 01/20/2009 at 5:22pm"
 
Is rampant paranoia a side effect of being ultra liberal or is the cause? One day I'll quit reading the loons from the loony left. But not now. They can be so pathetically funny sometimes.
January 20, 2009, 6:59:53 PM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Sorry, the comment above was from:
 
Informed media analysis.
January 20, 2009, 7:02:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Well, Foxgrudgers never quit recycling inane memes, Johnny.
 
Haggis is a veritable sewage treatment plant just like the rest of them.
January 20, 2009, 7:04:24 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Grammie,
 
I agree with you that Mrs. Obama's mother looked very attractive.
 
I agree too that somewhere between Mrs. Obama and Mrs. Biden lay the style of dress that was appropriate for the time of day and the ceremony.
 
I'm hoping to be wowed tonight at the inauguration. Maybe we'll see the Jacquelinesque Mrs. Obama that we've seen at other times.
January 20, 2009, 7:09:59 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Even on a day like this you still have to go Palin on us and be Mr. Negative.
Bababooey | 01.20.09 - 3:40 pm | #
 
That's like saying "Hey, watch your language you son of a b&^*# rat b@$t@#d".
 
Ashley | 01.20.09 - 6:43 pm | #  
 
Well said!
January 20, 2009, 7:13:34 PM EST – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
Hi Grammie,
 
I agree that the clothes today were not quite right. And both women looked like they were FREEZING! Imagine wearing a coat that didn't close all the way down the front on a day like today. Brrrr. We were wondering here if part of the reason the First Lady's outfit looked so bulky was that she had wooly undies underneath! And Mrs. Biden's bare knees - yikes. Not only too informal, but awkward- looking and cold!!! I liked the boots though. And yes, the two young ladies and Michelle's mother were lovely.
 
I hope the First Lady puts her hair up tonight. I've never seen her do so and I bet it' d look great.
 
Girl talk.. SO much more relaxing than politics!
January 20, 2009, 7:37:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
peggy, how much do I have to pay you to expose bababooey?
January 20, 2009, 7:48:30 PM EST – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
PS I just found this on the Daily news site:
 
The new first lady kicked off Inauguration Day with a (fashionable) bang, donning a pale yellow wool lace Isabel Toledo shift with matching overcoat... The outfit "was made for Michelle with extra warm linings sewn into the [innerlinings] that she wouldn't freeze," Toledo's husband told the Daily News.
January 20, 2009, 7:49:15 PM EST – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
peggy, how much do I have to pay you to expose bababooey?
Olby Sucks | 01.20.09 - 7:53 pm | #  
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Uh-uh, I'm stickin' to girl talk over here from now on! (bats eyelashes)
January 20, 2009, 7:51:03 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
(bats eyelashes)
Pegleg Peggy | 01.20.09 - 7:56 pm | #
 
Hey Peggy...How YOU doin'?
January 20, 2009, 8:16:32 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Olby Sucks | 01.20.09 - 7:53 pm | #  
Threatened by a liberal voice who does not go 'Newshound" on you.
January 20, 2009, 8:31:27 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Ashley | 01.20.09 - 6:43 pm | #
 
As McCain said "you can put lipstick on a pig and it is still a pig" Palin asked for what she got, the media exposed her for what she was, unqualified. No matter what she said or how she went off script none of it ever stuck. Even Nicolle Wallace (McCain's spokeswoman) said she went negative when they told her to tone it down.
She cost McCain the election. He was leading and then she opened her mouth.
January 20, 2009, 8:35:49 PM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
What do you girls think of her ball gown? I think itis better than her suit today but still doesn't suit her. The fabric looks, not ragged but bumpy maybe?
 
She could definitely carry a sophisticated outfit instead of the prom dressy gown she has on.
January 20, 2009, 8:38:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
...the media exposed her for what she was, unqualified.
Bababooey | 01.20.09 - 8:40 pm | #
 
Obama is even less qualified.  
 
On a side note Baba, I enjoy your posts here. You seem to get attacked by both sides, so you must be doing something right! I agree- you don't go all NH on folks.  (Apologies to OS)
January 20, 2009, 8:58:21 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
The outfit "was made for Michelle with extra warm linings sewn into the [innerlinings] that she wouldn't freeze," Toledo's husband told the Daily News.
 
Pegleg Peggy | 01.20.09 - 7:54 pm | #  
 
Well, there you go. You can't have extra warm linings in things and look good on camera. She should know that.
 
Such a disappointment, Grammie. I thought debutante dress, but prom dress is right too. Mrs. Obama is mature and shapely. Wasn't there someone around to tell her to go sleek and sophisticated.
 
Megyn Kelly looks almost perfect. The color of her dress is great on her.
January 20, 2009, 9:14:40 PM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Megyn Kelly is a truly beautiful and pleasantly charming woman.
 
Mrs Obama really needs to find someone to help her find her own distiinctive style that compliments and enhances her attributes. Look at the relatively minor changes that Laura Bush made to soften her hairdo and change her makeup. She looks younger now then when GWB was first sworn in.
January 20, 2009, 9:27:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
She cost McCain the election. He was leading and then she opened her mouth.
Bababooey | 01.20.09 - 8:40 pm | #  
 
Perhaps you ought to go out and review the facts. McCain's ratings increased after she was selected and after she spoke at the convention, they went down after the economy went into the tank in the early fall.
January 20, 2009, 9:33:53 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Threatened by a liberal voice who does not go 'Newshound" on you.
Bababooey | 01.20.09 - 8:36 pm | #  
 
Threatened by a guy who won't give up a simple name he uses on another blog? Not!

Edited By Siteowner
January 20, 2009, 9:39:07 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I thought Baba was a she.
January 20, 2009, 9:43:38 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
She cost McCain the election. He was leading and then she opened her mouth.
Bababooey | 01.20.09 - 8:40 pm | # 
 
In what world?
January 20, 2009, 9:46:58 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
“‘You can put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig,’ Obama said during a town-hall style event here Tuesday night.” ...
January 20, 2009, 9:51:18 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Baba may be a she but I didn't know when I edited Os's MSG to tone it down a bit.
January 20, 2009, 10:00:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
I thought Baba was a she too...
January 20, 2009, 10:06:45 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Olby Sucks | 01.20.09 - 9:56 pm | # 
 
McCain said it first in early 2007.
 
Ashley,
Yes his ratings went down, when the economy went in the tank, but his lead started dwindling after her Couric interview. But she was not treated at all fairly by the Extreme Liberal websites and bloggers, who went after her family. 
 
And for her being less qualified than Obama, that might be true, but he was voted in by a good margin.
 
And yes Fox Fan I do get it from both sides, but it's all good, I like posting here even if nobody agrees with me.
I might be one of the few liberals that thinks Fox News is Balanced, except for the Friends in the morning , Beck and Hannity.
Brit Hume was excellent today, he will be sorely missed by Conservative and Liberals alike.
January 20, 2009, 10:13:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
I am a male. What made you all think that I was a woman. And please Os no smartass comments.
January 20, 2009, 10:16:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I am a male. What made you all think that I was a woman. And please Os no smartass comments.
Bababooey | 01.20.09 - 10:21 pm | # 
 
Oh, sorry, Baba. I'm not really sure.
January 20, 2009, 10:18:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Most males refer to themselves as men. Just sayin.'
January 20, 2009, 10:19:36 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
C'mon baba, give up your newshound name. Are you afraid it will shred your credibility and objectivity?
January 20, 2009, 10:21:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
"And yes Fox Fan I do get it from both sides"
 
Proof that Baba is a female. :lol:
January 20, 2009, 10:21:25 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Ouch, that's gonna leave a 'mark.'
January 20, 2009, 10:22:27 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Fox Fan | Homepage | 01.20.09 - 10:26 pm
 
That's a good one
 
If you think I post a Newshounds find the post I supposedly used the canned ham reference, I am really tired of being accused of posting there. This is the only cable news site I post at. Why don't you find that mythical post, and Os dont use my name, post it over there, then cut and paste it over there.
January 20, 2009, 10:26:48 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Olby Sucks | 01.20.09 - 10:24 pm 
 
Whatever, Orange Iloveolbermann one
January 20, 2009, 10:28:53 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
"That's a good one"
No offense intended Baba, it was in jest. You do compose a bit like Mark, I hadn't recognized that until OS's 10:27.
January 20, 2009, 10:30:41 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Bababooey | 01.20.09 - 10:31 pm | # 
 
Take it up with peggy. She said it not me. Coming clean would end all of it.
January 20, 2009, 10:34:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Olby Sucks | 01.20.09 - 10:39 pm |
 
No os, you started it by calling me a spy, I said show me proof, which of course you never found, I have posted there twice. Never said anything about a canned ham. So to me os the case is closed. 
I like posting here be being accused by you of something I have done only twice, is totally insane, its something Newshounds does slander with no proof.
January 20, 2009, 10:44:40 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Fox Fan | Homepage | 01.20.09 - 10:35 pm | # 
 
Its good FF, I left you an opening.
 
Oh look I just left you another.
January 20, 2009, 10:49:36 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Since you're a dude, I won't take that opening...lol
January 20, 2009, 10:56:57 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
No moderation???
 
Thanks, johnny!
January 20, 2009, 10:58:01 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Well Baba, I did find the post where "Baba Booey" referenced canned ham. But there's no way to prove it was really you. Anyone could adopt that name. I've seen that enough around here to avoid jumping to conclusions about people. Name-jacking is nothing new on the internets.
January 20, 2009, 11:02:01 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
I can promise you Johnny I did not make that comment. And thanks for going the extra mile to find it. 
 
I started using this name for two reasons 
Howard Stern 
and my son when he was like one said bababooey when he wanted his bottle.
It is also his nickname.
January 20, 2009, 11:20:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
No great shakes but I noticed President Obama is White Tie tonight. I don't remember other Presidents wearing White Tie.
 
Anybody know what gives.
January 20, 2009, 11:34:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Bababooey | 01.20.09 - 10:49 pm | # 
 
Not to beat a dead horse, but, I recall a few days ago you said you "hadn't posted in a couple weeks over there." Now, it's "only twice?" Which is it?
January 21, 2009, 1:41:09 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Anybody know what gives.
Grammie | 01.20.09 - 11:39 pm | # 
 
That must be what he meant by "Change!" LOL!
January 21, 2009, 1:42:13 AM EST – Like – Reply


Puck30
That picture on the nymag piece. Is that Mandow or Elvis Costello?
January 21, 2009, 1:47:31 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
As long as Baba isn't doing a Haggis and lying and setting up sock puppets, what does it matter if he posted on NH under his current or any other name?
January 21, 2009, 8:59:50 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Grammie, I think balls generally are white tie.
 
I think what you're seeing that's different is that Pres. Obama isn't wearing the traditional vest with it.
January 21, 2009, 9:01:13 AM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Cecelia | 01.21.09 - 9:06 am 
 
I believe Kennedy wore a white tie at his Presidents Ball.
January 21, 2009, 9:35:15 AM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Cecelia | 01.21.09 - 9:04 am | # 
Thanks
January 21, 2009, 9:35:59 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
What's missing on Pres. Obama is the traditional white waistcoat, the pictures I see on the web.
 
The jacket should be tails according to what's on the web about "white tie" dress, but I'm not able to confirm whether the president wore tails or not.
January 21, 2009, 9:44:42 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
As long as Baba isn't doing a Haggis and lying and setting up sock puppets, what does it matter if he posted on NH under his current or any other name?
Cecelia | 01.21.09 - 9:04 am | # 
 
Goes to character......it matters.
January 21, 2009, 11:00:18 AM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Thanks Cecelia and Babs.
 
What raised the question was I noticed a few screen shots with info on some of the balls and the invitations said "Black Tie".
 
I thought Carl Cameroon looked good in his tux. I wonder why Bill hemmer went in business dress?
 
Babs, think back. Can you remember seeing JFK in his silk top hat? Tails too? I do. 
 
I think you're right about the tails being de rigeur with the white tie. Being the old fuddy duddy that I am I kind of miss the old traditions. Whats wrong with treating special ocassions (?) like special ocassions looking special for the event?
January 21, 2009, 11:03:19 AM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Olby Sucks | 01.21.09 - 11:05 am | #
 
Coming from you that is too funny to respond.
January 21, 2009, 11:10:14 AM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Grammie 
I was born in 1969, so I don't remember Kennedy. But I remember seeing archive footage of the event .
January 21, 2009, 11:13:13 AM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Baba, you young whippersnapper you!
 
Also, perhap I planted the seed that some thought you were on the distaff side with my defensive device to limit keystokes by using "Babs" for you. Sorry!
 
OS, I don't think you and Baba are ever going to be bosom buddies but I agree with Cecelia on this and wish you both could just grin and bear each other unless some specific point of contention comes up.
 
I admired tremendously the restraint you exercised with Flucker, Patsy, SLOB, Mikey et al. I don't think Baba is in the same League much less the same ball park.
January 21, 2009, 11:46:49 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Coming from you that is too funny to respond.
Bababooey | 01.21.09 - 11:15 am | # 
 
I totally understand why you can't respond rationally. Goes back to that character thingy.......
January 21, 2009, 11:53:03 AM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
I admired tremendously the restraint you exercised with Flucker, Patsy, SLOB, Mikey et al. I don't think Baba is in the same League much less the same ball park.
Grammie | 01.21.09 - 11:51 am | # 
 
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Are these people former poster here? or nicknames you have given people
January 21, 2009, 11:53:08 AM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Os we will agree to disagree, this going back and forth is what 8 years olds do on the playground. Alright?
January 21, 2009, 11:54:14 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Bababooey | 01.20.09 - 10:49 pm | # 
 
Not to beat a dead horse, but, I recall a few days ago you said you "hadn't posted in a couple weeks over there." Now, it's "only twice?" Which is it?
January 21, 2009, 11:54:43 AM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
I said I posted twice a couple weeks ago. Case closed
January 21, 2009, 11:56:38 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
No, you said both.
January 21, 2009, 11:58:22 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Cecelia, it matters to me because baba was one of them at newshouns calling anyone who disagress every name in the book. Now, he claims to be the poster boy of open mindedness, bla, bla, bla.
January 21, 2009, 12:01:18 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
What are the chances of 2 different people using te name "bababooey?" Slim to NONE!
January 21, 2009, 12:05:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Case closed.
January 21, 2009, 12:05:51 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
A military judge today agreed to President Barack Obama's request to suspend the Guantanamo war crimes trial of a Canadian accused of killing a U.S. soldier ...
 
Looks like obama's off to a good start, if you're a terrorist on trial!
January 21, 2009, 12:12:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Please remember the topic here is cable news, not politics.
January 21, 2009, 12:18:22 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Although I did not write it os, I will take the blame it was my evil twin, or my second personality,now get on with your life and worry about someone else.
January 21, 2009, 12:53:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Baba, I would offer to E-Mail it to you but my E-Mail is fouled up and I'm waiting to get one of the kids over here to fix it.
 
I really don't want to go into it here in detail b/c J$ has shown great forbearance and probably wouldn't like to see it again. So here goes, with apologies to J$ if needed, just the broad outlines.
 
These people are former posters at OW. Most are my nicknames for them, if one can use such an innocious term in the same page with them. A few showed up here at J$ and was instrumental, I think, in J$ switching to a priora moderation.
 
R Cox erased all their comments. There were literally tens and tens of thousands of them under a hellish host of names.
 
I have never figured out how to search here otherwise I would try to point you to some prior comments from Cecelia, Sharm (a lovely young mother of three who reads but doesn't comment much anymore) and I.
 
I suspect that your jaw would drop in disbelief if you came across some of them. Their day in and day out refrain was attributing bestiality to OS and his family plus calling him animal names and at one point went so far as to Moo at him in comments for days on end. That was not the whole scenario but it was the worst.
 
OS never once that I remember replied in kind. I can't think of a comment he made that I would have to hide from my teenage granddaughters. You strike me as a gentleman and OS proved himself to be a true gentleman and man. After all, what kind of coward would revel in such anonymous attacks.
 
They went after Cee with phallic/antireligous imagery and insults.
 
They subjected Cecelia, Sharm and I to a wide range of gender and sexual based insults. I often wondered how they treated their wives and daughters. I also wondered how they would behave in the presence of OS, Cee or we ladies if any of our husbands, sons or male friends were there My guess is that Caspar Milquetoast is a Knight in Shining Armour compared to these pitiful and pathetic examples of so called men.
January 21, 2009, 12:57:47 PM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Sorry, Johnny.
 
If I promise to be extra good would you let my last off topic comment stand?
 
Pretty please!...With sugar on it!
January 21, 2009, 12:59:55 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Grammie you have always been extra good.
January 21, 2009, 1:10:34 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Grammie, one very important point. The former posters of OW you refer to are newshound regulars.
January 21, 2009, 1:12:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


Bababooey
Well Grammie I totally understand now why os might be suspect of me.
I, as a liberal cannot believe how their is an extremist side to liberalism, sad but true, they go after gender, sexuality, your family etc. 
First and foremost I do not condone any of this. They give liberals a bad name, it was ok to question Palin, but not go after her family and then make fun of her Downs Syndrome son.
Not all liberals are bad, so I hope none of you think that I am in that category.
January 21, 2009, 1:40:34 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
///repost///
 
He's now spinning for power."
Cecelia | 01.19.09 - 10:56 pm | # 
 
I propose a COUNTUP watch to see how many days pass until there is criticism of the new administration by KO, CM or RM, journalists all.
January 21, 2009, 2:44:32 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Cecelia, it matters to me because baba was one of them at newshouns calling anyone who disagress every name in the book. Now, he claims to be the poster boy of open mindedness, bla, bla, bla.
Olby Sucks | 01.21.09 - 12:06 pm | # 
 
Well, I see your point, Olby Sucks. Do you what you must or what JD allows (whichever comes first...) 
January 21, 2009, 6:28:44 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I propose a COUNTUP watch to see how many days pass until there is criticism of the new administration by KO, CM or RM, journalists all.
vstol | Homepage | 01.21.09 - 2:49 pm | # 
 
Excellent idea!
January 21, 2009, 6:29:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


john t
Grammie @ 1:02pm
 
I doubt this will get published. But before you praise OS to the point of making him a saint. Here is a comment he made at the NH's during the primaries.
 
""Speaking of johnt [deleted] patty cakes....Did you olbyloons see Chelsea tonight? Her mouth was made for one thing and one thing only......Whov ever is [deleted] her [deleted] is one lucky man! 
OS | Homepage | 08.27.08 - 12:14 am "
 
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January 22, 2009, 12:24:01 AM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Johnt, based upon my own experience with you at NH and here some months ago I don't trust you any further than I can throw you.
 
Saint OS? That does have a nice ring, doesn't it. Perhaps you could start the Beatification process for OS. I will be happy to back you up on that.
January 22, 2009, 1:12:54 AM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Oh, johnt, I forgot to point out that you were wrong again about J$.
 
You obviously confused him with your allies at NH.
January 22, 2009, 1:15:57 AM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Chelsea does have a pretty mouth john t. I guess you could miss that feature if you bat for the other team...
January 22, 2009, 7:07:10 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
john t | Homepage | 01.22.09 - 12:29 am | # 
 
t-bone, I admit to making the post you dug up above. That being said, it IS saintly compared to the personal attacks directed at me by you beloved pals aka newshounds. Especially the times when your buddy's, aap and philby, jacked my name in hopes of helping their "argument." Oh, I'm gessing you don't want to talk about that, no? One more thing, how come you don't like Chelsea? She's hot!
January 22, 2009, 12:17:06 PM EST – Like – Reply