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Weekend Links & Open Thread

Latest cable news links (updated Sun 7:58 pm):

ELV across America.

Backstage at CNN's debate.

Kurtz: Chris Matthews's gut.

SNL mocks CNN.

Video: O'Reilly/Leno.

CNN debate controversy.

Tucumcari greets the ELV.

Courtney makes good.

Obscure comic tries Fox-bashing.

CNN as Muzak?

O'Reilly flops on Leno?

Long-awaited Star Jones O'Reilly verdict.

F&F Weekend developments.

Psychoanalyzing Keith.

Fox News Babe Showdown!

Sunday talkers.

Olbermann's lie?

Lou talks back.

Pix: Griffin in Afghanistan.

MSNBC's debate.

Shuster: no regrets.

Conventions could create news.


Question: Fox's new show: temporary? What cable news program is next to be cancelled?

Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.




Shakesy
First link is dead.
February 23, 2008, 12:18:25 PM EST – Like – Reply


FNCFan20
I don't think that FNC's new show will be permanent for several reasons:
 
1. The ad says that it's only until "Super Tuesday II" (March 4). 
 
2. This show will be taking up the hour of the Big Story. Heather Nauert's only been with FNC for about 5 months, I doubt they'd sideline her that quickly. 
 
3. I doubt FNC would dump Gibby so quickly. 
 
As far as the next show to be cancelled, it has to be Red Eye, since it plummeted in the ratings in the year since its launch. But the question is: Are ratings even important in that hour?
February 23, 2008, 12:19:57 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Red Eye is one of my favorite shows on FNC. I record it and watch it the next day usually. Greg's introductions and the halftime/ending reports are great!
 
I don't think ratings are especially important at that hour- the ratings systems don't even account for people who DVR and watch the next day. Some fo them account for DVR watchings an hour after the fact but that's it.
February 23, 2008, 12:26:37 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
That first link worked but you're right, it went dead. I poked around the website and found that the article has moved. So the link is now updated. Interesting read if you're a Lou Dobbs follower.
February 23, 2008, 12:29:46 PM EST – Like – Reply


Shakesy
But does Red Eye have crummy ratings compared to what the other news channels are showing at that hour?
 
I hope not. I needs me my Red Eye fix.
February 23, 2008, 12:30:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
That is the point. If Red Eye is doing enough better than the reruns on MS and CNN then I don't think it's in danger of leaving any time soon. It's inexpensive to produce, gets a little buzz, and they're still cross-promoting it by having Gutfeld, Levy, and Schulz appear on other programs.
 
I'm surprised Scratch Scaroborough is still on the air given its ratings, but I don't think it's in danger right now, because it is cheap, gets some buzz, and MS doesn't care about their daytime programming anyhow.
February 23, 2008, 12:54:07 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I notice F&F this morning was Ainslee, new guy Morris, and Greg Kelly. I like this trio. As for Kelly Wright, he's co-anchoring noon-2:00 pm today. That's a better fit for him than F&F.
February 23, 2008, 1:22:43 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ira
FNCFan20: Rather than John Gibson and Heather Nauert, the Bill Hemmer//Megyn Kelly afternoon experiment could mean the end of Neil Cavuto on “Your World.”
 
With a one-hour Fox Business Network show in addition to his executive duties on FBN, I can’t see Cavuto doing “Your World” for much longer. Besides "Your World" is now barely featuring any business news. I could visualize Hemmer and Kelly doing that hour with a business correspondent doing brief updates similar to what Alyson Camerota does on Fox & Friends.
February 23, 2008, 1:49:36 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Excellent point and idea. Cavuto has a whole network to himself. Why does he need this hour? I'm willing to bet that, while 5:00 pm has become very competitive, The Big Story gains viewers from Cavuto rather than loses them. FNC viewers just aren't as interested in business news, and even though Your World bends over backwards to include all sorts of topics, it's still seen as a business news show. Not where one would turn for, say, politics.
 
Good insight, Ira.
February 23, 2008, 1:53:36 PM EST – Like – Reply


Mike Chimeri
"With a one-hour Fox Business Network show in addition to his executive duties on FBN, I can’t see Cavuto doing 'Your World' for much longer."
If that's the case, and Cablevision continues to withhold FBN from its customers (that's how I perceive it), outside of the Fox Business website, I won't see Neil again for a very long time. Come on, Cablevision. Add it already.
February 23, 2008, 2:43:28 PM EST – Like – Reply


Damian G.
As far as the next show to be cancelled, it has to be Red Eye, since it plummeted in the ratings in the year since its launch.
 
I have been trying for months to get their ratings numbers. If you have found them, could you please send me a link?
February 23, 2008, 3:01:16 PM EST – Like – Reply


FNCFan20
Hey Ira, I totally agree with you. I don't see why they keep Cavuto on FNC after FBN's launch, it's on my "Top 10 Dumbest Decisions Made By FNC in 2007" list. 
 
Damian G., there was a post on TVNewser that had this to say about Red Eye's ratings:
 
-In total viewers, Red Eye is down 15%, averaging 285,000 viewers
-In the 25-54 Demo, Red Eye is down 24%, averaging 123,000 viewers
February 23, 2008, 3:52:14 PM EST – Like – Reply


Missy
1. I like the idea of Ainsley and the other guy on F & F Weekend, but they should have brought back Adam Housley as well. He has tons of personality. Even though I think Greg Kelly is great, I just don't think F & F is a good fit for him at all. He is much too reserved for that type of format.
 
2. I'm a huge Cavuto fan and generally like Your World, although I rarely see it in its entirety. I wish Fox would have kept its earlier version of early morning replays (Special Report at midnight; Cavuto at 1 a.m.), because I'm sure many of us aren't always around in late afternoon/early evening to see those programs. I just got FBN a few weeks ago and am not familiar enough with its programming as of yet, although David Asman sure seems to be on a lot!
February 23, 2008, 4:59:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


Kirk
Greg Kelly seams more confortable with the new hosts, the show doesn't seam forced. Although see needs more pratice Ainslee is getting better.
February 23, 2008, 5:18:09 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I think Greg Kelly brings a different viewpoint, and being a military man he's way informed on those issues. Plus he's smart and doesn't hesitate to challenge when he thinks something's wrong. I like Adam too, and I agree he is looser than Greg, but Greg helps to stabilize Ainsley and Clayton. I think this is their best trio since the old days with Jerrick, Julian Philips (whatever happened to him?), etc.
February 23, 2008, 5:26:25 PM EST – Like – Reply


Wenchie
If I recall right The Big Story is way down in ratings....So I think there is some exploring of ways on how to improve the afternoon block...
February 23, 2008, 5:43:15 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ira
I also place some significance on the Kelly/Hemmer appearance on the pre-game Super Bowl Show on Fox Broadcast. We certainly expected Chris Wallace and Shep, but by also giving Kelly/Hemmer a whole hour, it may indicate that the pair are held in high regard and perhaps with a bigger future than the 9am ET/6am PT morning show.
 
Wenchie: I think the declining ratings for “The Big Story” is something of an urban myth, spread by some of our old friends at Inside Cable News. “The Big Story” nearly always wins total audience and only occasionally does Blitzer edge them in the demo.
February 23, 2008, 8:23:02 PM EST – Like – Reply


Missy
Ira, I agree that the Big Story's ratings are probably not that bad, but I just can't bring myself to watch it anymore. There seem to be lots of those entertainment/tabloid programs on network TV, and it's just a waste that a great political commentator like Gibson has to use his precious airtime to talk about these celebutards.
 
I've heard Gibson on Sirius a few times, and I guess that's where he's really able to "opine" about politics. But it would still be nice if his TV show got itself out of the tabloid business.
February 23, 2008, 9:03:24 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I strongly suspect that the story choice is not entirely in Gibson's control.
February 23, 2008, 9:24:15 PM EST – Like – Reply


Mike Chimeri
Yes, the tabloid stories have kept me from watching "The Big Story." You'd think it was "On the Record: Early Edition" with all those stories.
BOR was fine on "The Tonight Show" last night. At least Jay gives him a fair shake. Dave doesn't. My only problem with last night was Jay used the "Rush and Molloy" false gossip about BOR making a young guy wipe down gym equipment in his monologue.
What I got from the Wanderings and Reckonings person was they despise BOR.
February 23, 2008, 10:21:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Mike Chimeri
And now, I briefly glanced at the Star Jones posting on HuffPo. Too bad, I used to think she was okay.
February 23, 2008, 10:25:09 PM EST – Like – Reply


Gloria
I can't stand Ainslee...I am a southern girl also and I can tell you there is no gal from the south that sweet and boy is she trying to stretch that southern charm...yikes! I miss Page...she was charming without using the southern drawl. Do you know what is going on with her? I think Megan and Bill are great together...I like the way they bounce off each other which make great chemisty...I think Fox should have gotten rid of him long ago...maybe he will get a hair cut. He looks like he teases it everyday and then uses a gallon of freeze and shine so not one hair will move.
February 24, 2008, 1:53:26 AM EST – Like – Reply


Kirk
Take Star Jones with a grain of salt, she is one of the loones that think OJ didn't kill his wife.
February 24, 2008, 9:34:28 AM EST – Like – Reply


Mike Chimeri
The worst part about the video of that obscure comic on F&F was the YouTube comments praising and commending him.
February 24, 2008, 12:08:34 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
You know this guy has been on Red Eye too. Apparently his outbursts there didn't get enough attention from the Fox haters so he had to go on F&F and insult the people giving him air time. He wanted attention and he got it.
February 24, 2008, 12:14:35 PM EST – Like – Reply


Mike Chimeri
I'll bet he figured the weekend F&F hosts are a weak target. So, he fired off on them. (Remember Montel Williams doing the same thing?) The weekday gang is pretty strong and would have stopped him instantly, or at least had strong comebacks.
February 25, 2008, 12:24:58 AM EST – Like – Reply


Mike Chimeri
I just did a Google search using the comic's name, which I won't use, and "Fox and Friends." What I got was a handful of blogs doing as those YouTube commenters did: praising and commending the comic. It's very disturbing. But again, with all due respect, Ainsley, Greg, and Clayton are weak targets.
Along those lines, welcome to FNC, Clayton Morris.
February 25, 2008, 12:40:15 AM EST – Like – Reply


Mike Chimeri
I have to clarify that I'm not belittling Greg, Ainsley, and Clayton. They're pros.
February 25, 2008, 12:41:32 AM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
I just commented at Olbermann Watch about that repulsive snot nosed Koz Kid.
 
As bad as he is if you didn't you should read some of the comments to get the full flavor. 
 
What will KO do, name him WPITW or have him as an honored guest?
February 26, 2008, 8:44:23 AM EST – Like – Reply