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Weirdest use of J$P Video ever!
Today's outrage!
Greta: Don't be a Coopycat!
CNN biased...against Bigfoot!?
A bounty of Barber bashing.
Bonnie Erbe repeats "more time" fiction.
Cable's monster mash.
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Mark
Nice upper - lower placement of Greta and BOR. Such tremendous egos, very little room for anything else in between the two. Greta is really, really getting full of herself. You've done good work in the past, Greta, but what have you done lately? Not much. Very little, indeed.
Then, America's biggest blowhard, even bigger than KO, and that's saying a lot. The startling revelation through BOR's water carrier Bernie that the MSM didn't cover Wright and Pfleger to the same extent as cable news .... Wow! Maybe, because without the luxury of endless airtime the MSM drew the conclusion that the story didn't deserve hours and hours of repetitive play and invective? An object lesson in the value of prioritization, if ever there was one.
And, Jane, pick-up whatever's left of your pride and get the hell away from Bill and Bernie. The pattern is set. You'll never get to say anything. Bill will shout over you, everytime you make a substantive point, and Bernie will talk down to you. What an amazing capacity the man has for condescension.
I think if the goal were to have put FNC in the worst possible light, these two stories did it.
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By the way, saw Eric Burns on Rachel last night. He appears to be in the process of porking up for the winter, but he was very, very good. Precise, yet detailed, discussing Corsi and the second volume in his "Book of Lies".
Burns has very organized thought processes and commends himself in an interview very well. Of course, I always like "News Watch" when he hosted it.
August 15, 2008, 8:08:54 AM EDT – Like – Reply
cornycob
I saw Eric Burns on Countdown last night as well. I don't watch it ever but saw that Rachel was on and Eric Burns was a guest so I watched a little.
August 15, 2008, 8:39:40 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Guest
Your opinion of Eric, from what you saw?
August 15, 2008, 8:44:02 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mark
Sorry. "Aninymous" was I. On a new laptop.
August 15, 2008, 8:44:49 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mark
Geez, this laptop is baaaad!
Anonymous.
August 15, 2008, 8:45:27 AM EDT – Like – Reply
lyons
Sorry to miss Eric Burns last night.
But when I saw that Rachel was hosting I quickly grabbed the remote.
Of course, I don't watch KO either.
So a loss for me. I always liked Eric.
Any chance we could have larger fonts on these comments?
August 15, 2008, 10:38:22 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Because of the chaotic out of control behavior in another thread, all posting will be closed for a cooling off period. This is the worst display of name-calling, personal attacks, off-topic garbage, that I've seen since this site began. Any posts made during the cooling off period will be strictly moderated and will eventually appear only if they pass the test.
August 15, 2008, 10:38:47 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mark
I would like to see Burns make on the air. I have always found him to be a competent and balanced interviewer/facilitator. He is far better than the terribly compromised Kurtz. I don't think it is fair to judge "News Watch" yet, being somewhat adrift. My initial impression is that, without Burns, it suffers greatly, perhaps irreparably. Time will tell if I am correct.
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Lyons: I have to say I am becoming increasingly fond of Maddow. She has been finding her voice, and I think she is on the verge of breaking through. One of the things I like best about her is her chemistry with Buchanan. They so seldom agree with each other, but they seem to really bring out the best in one another. They also seem to be developing a fondness for one another, even in vehement disagreement.
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Thanks for trying to clean up the mess, Johnny. Sorry it came to this.
August 15, 2008, 12:59:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
walkndude is 100% accurate in one of his claims....the report is definitely an "EXCLUSIVE."
I could discuss the various reasons for the exclusive nature of the report, but it would only divert and distract from the alarming impact of the video.
August 15, 2008, 2:05:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
sharm
I can't get the video to play. Is that a problem just for me?
August 15, 2008, 2:31:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Which video?
August 15, 2008, 2:33:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
sharm
Russia's Mind Game. Sorry for the delay. It takes time for the comments to show.
August 15, 2008, 2:37:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
It's working for me. If you want you can try a direct link to the video home:
http://tinyurl.com/6fc3f3
Maybe that'll work.
August 15, 2008, 2:39:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
sharm
Got it, thanks.
August 15, 2008, 2:49:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
I left a comment to Bonnie Erbe's article. I think the chances of me being ridiculed by far-left sympathizers are very high.
August 15, 2008, 3:03:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
scott
walkndude needs to learn that Susan Estrich is not Greta.
August 15, 2008, 3:36:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
scott
Wow, I thought y'all were joking about Eric being on Meltdown. Of course they would NEVER have him on to to critical of a left winger. He would eat bathtub boy's lunch in any debate. But BTB does not debate.
August 15, 2008, 3:47:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Corsi was back on F&F this morning, among friends....Trying to get his "book" back on track...Obviously he didn't like being exposed for what he is, by Paul Waldman over on CNN.
August 15, 2008, 4:24:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
"Fox viewers identify themselves as: 39% Republican, 33% Democratic, 22% independent"
How exactly does this poll make FNC itself "fair and balanced? The viewer ship might be more balanced but that doesn't then mean the programmes are...It's laughable.
August 15, 2008, 4:34:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
So true haggis, Hannity is fair and balanced isnt he ? ha
August 15, 2008, 4:38:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
Also Fox and Friends (Weekday( is Fair and Balanced also. The weeekend show is right down the middle thank the lord for Alysyn
August 15, 2008, 4:44:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
Haggis do you think Fox mixes up Obama and Osama (with pics )on purpose. Then make a sorry apology?
August 15, 2008, 4:51:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
How exactly does this poll make FNC itself "fair and balanced? The viewer ship might be more balanced but that doesn't then mean the programmes are...It's laughable.
HaggisFarmer | 08.15.08 - 4:39 pm | #
"It's laughable", is not an argument.
August 15, 2008, 4:58:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Danny
HF,
What's laughable is the idea that you are presenting that people watch stuff that does not appeal to them.
Hannity may not be fair and balanced (his mission is indeed to present only one side of the argument) but Hannity & Colmes is.
If you doubt that look at all the laudatory things that Ellen says about Colmes. In fact, after reading her, I wonder if the show unfair to conservatives . . . since according to Ellen, Colmes is so effective and Hannity is so bad.
August 15, 2008, 4:59:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mark
UU, Ms. Camarata does make a sincere effort to have a perspective. She stands in sharp contrast to many of her colleagues in that regard, but I respect her tremendously for it.
August 15, 2008, 5:01:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
yes alysyn is awesome much better than Carslon, too bad they let Chetry go F&F would be so much better
August 15, 2008, 5:30:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
KeithO
Rasmussen's recent poll:
87% of FNC viewers as "likely to vote," for McCain
I guess a lot of Fox News viewers are Hillary Democrats eh?
August 15, 2008, 5:32:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
...people watch stuff that does not appeal to them.
Danny | 08.15.08 - 5:04 pm | #
I come to this website and a lot of views don't appeal to me...But I'm here....Maybe Dems watch FNC just to see what the Right are saying..It's called being informed....Or just for a laugh.
Unfair and unbalanced | 08.15.08 - 4:56 pm |
I find it very hard to believe that you can name a picture wrongly when looking at...After all it wasn't as if it was some obscure guy no one had heard of.....Someone had to make that decision...The same as J$ said about the MSNBC flag thing.
August 15, 2008, 5:37:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Danny
HF,
a few people maybe. But we are dealing with hundreds of thousands of people. When you are dealing with large numbers of people that is hardly likely,
You are really turning marketing theory on its head. You are suggesting that the best way to get a targeted group of people to pay attention to your ad and/or programing is place content in same that does not appeal to your targeted audience. That is the opposite what marketers normally do.
That again is why I call your assertion to be both absurd and laughable.
August 15, 2008, 5:46:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Rasmussen's recent poll:
87% of FNC viewers as "likely to vote," for McCain
I guess a lot of Fox News viewers are Hillary Democrats eh?
KeithO | Homepage | 08.15.08 - 5:37 pm | #
You left out that Rasmussen poll also states that of watchers of CNN and MSNBC, that those who plan to vote for Obama outnumber anyone else by 2 to 1.
No wonder more Dems are watching FNC than CNN or MSNBC, eh, keithO.
By YOUR own argument, FNC is the only cable channel where they can hear a point of view that is NOT strictly propaganda for Obama!
August 15, 2008, 5:57:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Lets all be honest for a minute....We're really getting no where here....You'll never convince me that your right...And I'll never convince you that I'm right...So what's the point?
But I think we can all agree on this one thing....GO Michael Phelps!!
August 15, 2008, 6:25:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply
KeithO
The specific percentage was 63% which is well below the 87% I cited.
J$, Do the blogging rules specific to Liberal posters allow me to copy and paste an excerpt from the Pew study?
Well I would have let you do a shorter quote but your smart-aleck question convinced me otherwise. --J$
Edited By Siteowner
August 15, 2008, 6:25:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
scott
"So true haggis, Hannity is fair and balanced isnt he ? ha"
You are forgetting the other half of the program. duh. How many times has Olbermann ever had someone on his show who did not agree with his point of view? I'll say never.
August 15, 2008, 6:38:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
The specific percentage was 63% which is well below the 87% I cited.
KeithO | Homepage | 08.15.08 - 6:30 pm | #
And if you consider the number those people who do not consider themselves to be Republican or Democrat-- the Independents, you can easily see that the FNC attracts Republicans voting for McCain, Independents voting for McCain, and some Dems who aren't going to vote for Obama.
So again, just judging things on the argument you've made:
CNN and MSNBC, has Republicans who aren't voting for McCain, but all the Dems are, as are all the Independents.
FNC, the place for Dems of EVERY stripe!
August 15, 2008, 6:50:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Danny
Keith,
Since the numbers don't add up, my guess is that a lot of data was thrown away.
The pollsters were only interested data that belonged to people whom they defined as a Fox watcher as opposed to people they defined as a CNN watcher etc.,
What is their definition of a Fox viewer? Is it someone who watches Fox some number of hours a week?
I don't know.
When you look at the people who watch Fox on the average, the imbalance between Obama supporters and McCain supporters is not a great as what you are suggesting. The Pew numbers tell me that.
This is really incredible, when you think about it, that the numbers for Fox are as good as they are. Especially, since Obama has trashed Fox on many occasions.
August 15, 2008, 6:51:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
Let's cut to the chase, even with the entire world watching the Olympics MSNBC cannot get an audience to carry over to Mathews and Olby so what happens when this is over? I'll tell you what happens, MSNBC prime time #'s go in the tank for good. Could not happen to a more deserving group of on air clowns. There you have it HF, so lets see how this all shakes out in a couple months. When I am proved to be right, you will be long gone from here.
August 15, 2008, 6:59:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
MSNBC=on air clowns
david smawley | 08.15.08 - 7:04 pm |
FNC=Clowns and a court jester thrown in...Match that.
"in a couple months. When I am proved to be right"
Why wait...You've convinced yourself you're right already.
August 15, 2008, 7:07:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Can I ever show up here without a troll invasion, challenge/response duel, name-calling barage, or assuming someone is someone else (or more than one) when they're really not?
I know the answer to that question. Of course not! I can never feel comfortable here. The far-left trolls create havoc, the moderate-to-far-right regulars feed on it, and the moderate-to-center right (myself, FF) and center-to-moderate left regulars (Mark) are left in the middle. I'm tired of being a friendly diplomat that lies down for the regulars that feed on the havoc. The best way to get them to go away is to ignore them! Johnny will do away with them before long.
Okay, I'm done. That had nothing to do with cable news, but it had to be said. Just imagine how Johnny feels when he has to clean up threads because chaos is created every damn day in every damn thread!
August 15, 2008, 7:15:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
Yes, I have, otherwise I would not have posted. If I happen to be wrong, I will still be here and will take the licking I have coming to me.
August 15, 2008, 7:19:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
How can anyone blame obama for not trashing fox, they get him mixed up with Osama, Fox has Hillary and McCain supporeters as there analysis(Lanny Davis, Howard Wolfson etc.) the only time Fox is fair and balanced is on the weekends. And that sometimes can get sickening with Hannitys America
August 15, 2008, 7:20:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
center-to-moderate left
Mike C. | Homepage | 08.15.08 - 7:20 pm |
Mike, Please add me to that list....Centre left describes me exactly.
August 15, 2008, 7:22:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Unfair and unbalanced | 08.15.08 - 7:25 pm |
Obama probably could go on with Hannity...By the time he(hannity) got all his talking points counted off, on those stubby fingers, The show would be over...Sorry J$ I couldn't help myself.
August 15, 2008, 7:35:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
You're probably right. I recall when Beckel was on and Hannity started talking about the great questions he'd come up with for interviewing Obama, Beckel said I know what your quesitons are, and started ticking them off: Wright, Pfleger, Ayers... The whole studio broke up.
August 15, 2008, 7:38:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
licking I have coming to me.
david smawley | 08.15.08 - 7:24 pm |
A beer will suffice...No licking is necessary
August 15, 2008, 7:39:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.15.08 - 7:43 pm |
1. "You're probably right."....Haggis gasps...Wipes his eyes...BY JINGO it's real.
2. "Beckel"...I'm honoured that you think I'm thinking along the same lines as the great Bob Beckel.
August 15, 2008, 7:51:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
You're on HF! A pint of your choice!
August 15, 2008, 7:54:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
MikeC, I'm very sorry. Most of this is my fault. I won't do it again. That you can count on.
August 15, 2008, 8:14:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
HaggisFarmer | 08.15.08 - 7:56 pm
Carefull HF. These are the times when One, full of adrenalin, allows succes, how ever small, to become overconfident and, blinded by an exaggerated sense of accomplishment, charges head first into the pit of over estimating the weight of One's adequacies.
My friend, I speak from my own experience in an attempt to save you embarrassment and ridicule.
August 15, 2008, 8:28:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Cecelia | 08.15.08 - 8:19 pm |
That's it Cecelia...Get back in line there
MikeC, the laugh is....The comments are being moderated tonight...So what ever gets posted...J$ is happy with.
OW membership doesn't look like it's gong to happen....So your safe Mike.
August 15, 2008, 8:28:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
These are the times when One, full of adrenalin
vstol | 08.15.08 - 8:33 pm |
More like full of booze
But I've taken your advice on board...But you have to admit even a victory, as small as this, is worth a few poppers and a small glass of something.
August 15, 2008, 8:38:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Actually, I think I've decided to be done away with.
August 15, 2008, 8:41:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Danny
HF,
Some time back, Obama singled out a person from the audience. Obama said that man should go on Fox; that he would "tear Hannity up."
Obligingly, Hannity had the man on his radio and television show, and Hannity did not get torn up.
Hannity has offered Obama the opportunity to appear on H&C as Hannity's cohost. Obama would have the entire hour to "tear Hannity up."
Why won't Obama accept the offer? It could only help him politically. In many ways, it is a better offer than he has received from other networks.
And. . . if he want someone to tear Hannity up, it looks like he will need to do the job himself.
August 15, 2008, 8:43:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Danny...here's the real hoot in all this nonsense....Imagine if Obama agreed to go on with Alan alone...Like all the Republican candidates did with Hannity...I can hear Hannity now..."It's only little old me...."
Obama would have absolutely nothing to gain by appearing on H&C/Factor....FNS, yes, as Wallace isn't bad....I have to give him credit for pointing out to the Friends....Obama bashing for 2 hours really isn't on.
August 15, 2008, 9:05:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Danny....I forgot to add in my last post(if it gets past J$)....When is McCain going to appear on Countdown?....He's not scared of little old Keith, now is he.
August 15, 2008, 9:18:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
Maybe they should just have Courntey Friel question Obama, she would do just about as good as any of them
August 15, 2008, 9:21:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> When is McCain going to appear on Countdown?
Probably never. Keith hasn't interviewed a person he disagrees with politically for some two years. There is a running list kept.
And remember Keith has called McCain a delusional old man and a liar. As a result, Keith says he has "recused himself" from interviewing people he has attacked. Quite a neat little arrangement there to keep the Countdown guest list 'pure'.
August 15, 2008, 9:30:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Obama would have much to lose and much to gain by going on H&C or BOR.
He would gain huge exposure (millions of viewers is more than he'll ever get at a speech or rally) but he risks losing face in the light of tough questions the Obama-fawning media refuse to ask.
August 15, 2008, 9:31:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.15.08 - 9:35 pm |
J$...Don't give me that old cock and bull story If McCain wanted to go on Countdown...Keith would take it like a flash and you know it.
As I'm forever told....Countdown is for lefties only...Surely McCain would want to speak to these people as well?...I think Bill uses a similar argument...Just replace lefties with righties.
August 15, 2008, 9:42:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Danny
HF,
But Obama said that it would be easy to tear Hannity up. Hell, even a guy from the audience could do it.
Completely destroying Hannity on TV could only help Obama.
Obama can tear Hannity up (like he said)?
He can utterly destroy Hannity . . . can't he?
Well yeah . . . if Obama can't back up his words, maybe he should not do H&C as a cohost. Maybe we can at least agree on that.
August 15, 2008, 9:42:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
Does anyone think that fox would get the first interview when he(Obama) becomes president everyone know Tom Brokaw should get it, he is the most fair newsperson out there since Russert left us. No matter how Fox would spin it, they have no chance, they would have no chance in an Obama presidency at its their own fault..
August 15, 2008, 9:46:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.15.08 - 9:35 pm
Damn, J$.
HF blown right out of the water. I hate it when you do that! Oh well, I warned him.
August 15, 2008, 9:47:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> Keith would take it like a flash and you know it.
So are you accusing Keith of lying when he said he had to recuse himself?
August 15, 2008, 9:57:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Here's an interesting video(please allow it JS) ...Was Shep told to cut the interview and go to ad break...Because Fox didn't like what they were hearing....Would the 12 year old girl have been cut off if she had been negative toward Russia?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acGqW27bSh8
August 15, 2008, 10:00:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Danny
Colmes would treat Obama really nice . . . if that is what he is looking for.
Remember, Ellen Brodsky is highly complimentary of Colmes' interviewing skills.
Certainly it would be no fault of Colmes, if he did not get the first interview.
August 15, 2008, 10:01:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Um, the answer is no. Since before the interview Shep had talked to a guy from Center for Am Progress. And just before that he had explained to his audience the Georgia incident that triggered the conflict.
So as I said, no. But you are free to continue to believe those oh-so-reliable blog sources.
PS: Try Googling the broadcast term "hard break".
August 15, 2008, 10:02:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Unfair and unbalanced | 08.15.08 - 9:51 pm | #
Fox doesn't need to get that oh-so-coveted "first interview" to have "a chance" if Obama won. Their ratings might dip the night of the interview, then they would return to dominating cable news and much of cable TV.
August 15, 2008, 10:04:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.15.08 - 10:07 pm |
Some how I thought you'd say that "no"....I didn't find it on a blog...I was searching for something else on youtube and accidental came across it...It sounded very fishy to me...And yes I know what a hard break is...But this just looked wrong.
August 15, 2008, 10:08:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Yes of course it did. Thank you for your comment.
August 15, 2008, 10:09:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
dominating cable news and much of cable TV.
Fox Fan | 08.15.08 - 10:09 pm |
But without the access they currently enjoy at the WH.
FF...If you haven't already tried it..."Old Speckled Hen" is another nice ale to look out for.
August 15, 2008, 10:18:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
SteveMG
MSNBC news anchor Keith Olbermann has called McCain a terrorist (actually, he's called all Republican terrorists), a "liar", "delusional" and someone who "services President Bush".
McCain spent 5 1/2 years in prison being spit upon like this (verbally) by his captors.
Why would he want to be interviewed by someone who spits on him here?
August 15, 2008, 10:21:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cornycob
I did see Keith interview Huckabee (I think) on one of the primary nights. Of course, Keith didn't act like "Countdown" Keith, he acted like "Objective Journalist" Keith.
August 15, 2008, 10:24:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
YES...Rebecca Adlington from UK gets Gold medal #2 - 800m freestyle + new WR +
Phelps gets #7...It doesn't get any better than this.
August 15, 2008, 10:28:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
HaggisFarmer | 08.15.08 - 10:23 pm | #
I don't think FNC has more or less access to President Bush than any other news channel. He's done interviews on MSNBC recently. He hardly ever does one-on-ones on any channel.
August 15, 2008, 10:30:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Why would he want to be interviewed by someone who spits on him here?
SteveMG | 08.15.08 - 10:26 pm |
The same then would apply to a Obama/Hannity or Bill interview in that case.
August 15, 2008, 10:43:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
When did O'Reilly call Obama delusional, or a terrorist? I must have missed that. Can you cite the date please?
August 15, 2008, 10:45:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply
SteveMG
The same then would apply to a Obama/Hannity or Bill interview in that case.
Sorry, you're changing the topic on the table. Which was your call for McCain to go on Olbermann's little pretend news show.
Why would McCain go on a show where the host calls him such vile things?
Olbermann said that McCain "services the President."
We all know what "services" mean.
Do you think it's appropriate for a news anchor to use such terms on someone like John McCain? Or Obama or any public figure?
These are indefensible statements by Olbermann.
He has no business hosting a news show or co-anchoring the election coverage.
August 15, 2008, 10:57:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
I think we need to ask ourselves this question....What size of brown envelope was allegedly bunged to Ed Rendell to say this on Cavuto right out of the blue?
"you know I've always said Fox did the fairest job covering this"
August 15, 2008, 11:06:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Nothing new. He's said it before, as has Hillary Clinton. And Terry McAuliffe.
August 15, 2008, 11:11:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
We all know what "services" mean.
SteveMG | 08.15.08 - 11:02 pm |
Just like we all know what "our man" Ailes means.
And Bill's just the blue eyed boy....Butter wouldn't.....
August 15, 2008, 11:14:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
SteveMG
Just like we all know what "our man" Ailes means.
And Bill's just the blue eyed boy....Butter wouldn't
Again, back to the issue that you're ducking: You made the argument that McCain is ducking Olbermann, that he (McCain) would appear on the show if he wanted.
Do you think it's appropriate for a news anchor to say that a Presidential candidate "services the President"?
Why would a Presidential candidate who is called a "terrorist", a "liar" and "delusional" on national television want to be interviewed by such a thoroughly unprofessional journalist?
See if you can answer this without using the words "O'Reilly" or "Hannity".
I know that a political moderate and sensible and fair person like you would never defend such behavior. Right?
August 15, 2008, 11:27:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
Actually Fox fan a democratic white house might put the "screws on fox" becuase people would turn to MSNBC or CNN because Obamas cabinet is more likely to talk to networks who treated them equal as MCCain not like Fox does (terrorist fist jab, osama obama mixed up w/ pics, fake snide apologies) FOx could whine and complain all they want but if Obama wins a Republican wont be in the White House for many years to come. And to me their is nothing better than a happy giddy Olberman. Also in ratings in the demographics i think 18-52 American Morning usually is close to F&f when Kiran is there hosting, that is Fox's biggest mistake, should have let Carlson go..
August 15, 2008, 11:30:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
See if you can answer this without using the words "O'Reilly" or "Hannity"
SteveMG | 08.15.08 - 11:32 pm |
Simple.
As the Right would say...If McCain can't handle a simple interview with Keith...How on earth can he be expected to handle stuff like AQ/OBL.
August 15, 2008, 11:36:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
Fox should let ED Hill do the first Obama interview if he becomes President what do you think her first question would be. "How about the fist jab, whats up with that?"
August 15, 2008, 11:36:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I never heard of 18-52, but I have heard of 25-54 and 18-49. And in both categories quarterly ratings show AM gets less than half the viewers of F&F.
What's Obama going to do about the four times MSNBC has mixed up Obama and Osama? Are they going to get the 'screws' put to them too? I worry about an administration attempting to put 'screws' to the press. Sounds a little Nixonian. I believe in the 1st Amendment.
August 15, 2008, 11:38:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Haggis you have to start telling the truth. Oralmann won't have McCain on his show. He won't interview him because he hasn't interviewed an opposing voice in over two years. And he has publicly stated he 'recuses' himself from interviewing anyone he has attacked on air, particularly in a special comment.
So unless you have some fresh perspective on this that isn't a fabrication...
August 15, 2008, 11:40:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
On tv newser it said something like that, but you have to admit that F&f has more credibility when Chetry was there and when Alysyn is there, much better interviewers, no softball questions.
August 15, 2008, 11:41:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
SteveMG
As the Right would say...If McCain can't handle a simple interview with Keith...How on earth can he be expected to handle stuff like AQ/OBL.
Again, a refusal to address the questions.
It isn't, of course, an issue of "handling" such an unprofessional person such as Olbermann. It is a question of dignifying such a retrograde person.
Why would McCain wish to diminish his stature by appearing with a person who regularly and repeatedly violates all standards of ethical and responsible journalism?
And let it be noted , that our sensible, moderate guest simply won't answer the questions.
Actually, he (or she) can't; but I'm being charitable.
August 15, 2008, 11:45:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
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Johnny
alot a goverment agencies freeze or put the screws to networks(Doesnt fox put the screws to the democrats), Howards Dean wont hardly talk to Fox, and why should anyone talk to a network who is so biased against them,its like going to you mother in laws house when she does'nt like you, why create a situation if you dont have too.
August 15, 2008, 11:47:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
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SteveMg
Doesnt Hannity do the same ?
August 15, 2008, 11:48:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> softball questions.
Oh absolutely. Like this:
http://johnnydollar.us/2008a/mra239647376.html
Well, color me convinced!
August 15, 2008, 11:48:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
I meant to say that Carlson throws these softball question. And by the way that clip was awesome.
August 15, 2008, 11:50:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.15.08 - 11:45 pm |
I knew there would be a simple explanation for this...And I'd be lying all over the place...Believe me...If the McCain camp asked to be on Countdown...Keith would jump at it....Hannity/O'Reilly are just miffed that Keith has interviewed Obama.
August 15, 2008, 11:51:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Hannity doesn't expect to get an interview, unless Colmes whips up a one-on-one without Hannity like he's done with Edwards, Clinton, etc.
O'Reilly does expect an interview, because Obama told him he'd do it. I suspect anyone would be miffed by someone who doesn't keep his word, but there's still time for it to happen.
August 15, 2008, 11:57:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Unfair and unbalanced | 08.15.08 - 11:53 pm |
Your spot on...But SteveMg likes Hannity....So doesn't see this.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.15.08 - 11:53 pm
When did the great Bob Beckel become part of F&F...The Friends were lost in that interview...Bob single handedly took Corsi apart.
August 15, 2008, 11:58:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
Obama on the factor, although he said he would do it , why should he go on a network that is so biased against him, i think Bill would start his own agenda and that would be it. It would be 59 minutes of Bill ranting and one minute of him selling his Factor Gear.
August 16, 2008, 12:01:52 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Well he didn't stumble onto the set looking for the cafeteria. He was booked to be there, for a reason.
August 16, 2008, 12:02:16 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
True Haggis the friends where lost in that interview, and Beckel knocked ol Corsi out. Maybe Beckel should be on that show The Judge, The Becks, and The Killer (Kilmeade) that would be awesome.
August 16, 2008, 12:04:57 AM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.16.08 - 12:02 am |
Come on J$...Bill was embarrassing himself when he turned up at that Obama event..."We love you Barack"..."Please come on my show"...Bill was heard to say...Obama defused an ugly situation masterfully.
Earlier that day the secret service had to intervene when Bill was caught out of control....And you call this man the full shilling.
August 16, 2008, 12:10:36 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
Funny comment J$, he might have been looking for the cafeteria.
August 16, 2008, 12:11:43 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
So true Haggis, Bill was like stalking him, and Barack like always was a gentleman, maybe he wont go on the factor because he's got a restraining order against him
August 16, 2008, 12:19:10 AM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Well he didn't stumble onto the set looking for the cafeteria. He was booked to be there, for a reason.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.16.08 - 12:07 am |
It also has to be noted in that interview...Bob's video feed mysteriously went down....This sort of thing happens a lot on Fox when they don't like what they're hearing.
August 16, 2008, 12:21:13 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Yes, and Beckel, being an unrepentant liar, got on his cell phone and verified that cover story about the power going out, just to hide the fact that Fox was trying to silence him.
I think we have seen a shark-jumping moment here.
August 16, 2008, 12:24:33 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
Beckel did call back in. And they did seem suprised when the feed did go down.
August 16, 2008, 12:29:01 AM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.16.08 - 12:29 am |
But that break in Beckel's video gave Corsi ample time to tell more untruths...As Beckel couldn't hear...He couldn't respond to said untruths...Sneaky Sneaky...But Haggis is on the case.
August 16, 2008, 12:31:25 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
Thats Beckel Vs Corsi is the funniest thing I ever saw on you tube, even funnier than that Fred kid.
August 16, 2008, 12:32:39 AM EDT – Like – Reply
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Comon Haggis your really drawing at straws.
August 16, 2008, 12:35:25 AM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
And they did seem suprised when the feed did go down.
Unfair and unbalanced | 08.16.08 - 12:34 am |
It's all part of the script they receive before going on air....In bold print LOOK SURPRISED WHEN BECKELS VIDEO GOES DOWN It's an entertainment show after all.
August 16, 2008, 12:40:20 AM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
Unfair and unbalanced | 08.16.08 - 12:06 am
Evidently you (jumped the shark) missed O'Reilly's interviews with McCain and Hillary.
August 16, 2008, 12:47:20 AM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Comon Haggis your really drawing at straws.
Unfair and unbalanced | 08.16.08 - 12:40 am |
Your supposed to be on my side ... Fishy None the less.
August 16, 2008, 12:58:10 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
i am on your side, but that one is a little over the top
August 16, 2008, 10:57:20 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Eric
Personally, I think it's going to be hillarious when Obama wins the White House and Fox's personalities get locked out of interviews with his cabinet.
August 18, 2008, 1:12:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Unfair and unbalanced
Dont say that in here they will start yelling censorship, but I totally agree. Fox wont get a sniff of the oval office.
August 18, 2008, 2:05:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
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Although the Obama people might let like a middle of the road guy like Hemmer get an interview.
August 18, 2008, 2:47:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
