Tuesday Links & Open Thread
Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:
Rich Sanchez's spurious cinema citation.
Miserly Matthews outed.
Monday's numbers.
15 seconds.
Video: Mika's dad denounces Joe.
Doc block schlock.
Rebecca Jarvis: ingrate?
CNN's second thoughts. More departures.
Weekend numbers.
Today's cable news lament.
Video: snowfall.
Clark Howard to Headline News.
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Cecelia
What is it about people in their twenties that they have to be so "woe is us" all the time-- re: The Death of Cable News.
They don't say a word about video games with blood spatters in 3-D or hip-hop lyrics penned in Gomorrah, but real formerly live girl-next-door murder sensationalism heralds the end of civilization.
December 30, 2008, 10:36:24 AM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Score one for HLN. Clark Howard is a good "get" for them.
December 30, 2008, 11:39:13 AM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
The Rebecca Jarvis story has the same link as the Cable News Lament,
December 30, 2008, 12:33:47 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
The only thing worse than slipping on the ice is to slip on the ice while on video. Funny clip, but I do hope that the reporter wasn't hurt.
December 30, 2008, 12:37:39 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Oops. Fixed it. I really need to get a new keyboard. This one makes too many mistakes.
December 30, 2008, 1:01:17 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Why would CNN retract its description of Hamas as a terrorist group? Is there anything Hamas has done that proves otherwise? Hamas:
-Encourages and engages in suicide bombing
-Use women and children as shields
-Use residential areas for missile launch sites
-Indiscriminately launch missiles into civilian areas
-Meet with other terrorist supporters such as Jimmy Carter
December 30, 2008, 1:04:06 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
A question for ChippyMinton
A few weeks back when you confessed that you had been lying about even knowing "Haggis", you also said that you had never been to this site before. You claimed that you didn't know about Johnny and thought that this site was moderated by Fox.
Later that same day, Cecelia reported that you had once claimed that you had been to this site before. In your response to her, you called her an angry person.
On November 24th, as AlabamaDem, you wrote the following:
though you can't get more predictable than Hannity.
Cecelia | 11.24.08 - 3:41 pm | #
Cecelia for once I 100% agree with you...In my previous life on this site I couldn't imagine you saying such a thing about Hannity.
Are the Fox loyalists beginning to waver?
AlabamaDem | 11.24.08 - 4:12 pm | #
Link here:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/johnnydollar/hql249198265/#259509
If not Haggis, what was your identity in your "previous life on this site"?
Oh, and now we can add your "never been to this site" claim made after you allegedly "came clean" as yet another in the long list of your lies.
December 30, 2008, 2:51:25 PM EST – Like – Reply
ChippyMinton
johnny dollar | Homepage | 12.30.08 - 1:06 pm |
My keyboard also makes mistakes...But folk seem to just except that reasoning from you....But just imagine if I used it.
Ashley | 12.30.08 - 2:56 pm |
I don't know what to say to you. Haggis is in Australia and I'm (Chippy) in Scotland.
Ashley, I think it's about time you dropped this obsession you have with me...people may talk.
December 30, 2008, 3:13:54 PM EST – Like – Reply
ChippyMinton
If not Haggis, what was your identity in your "previous life on this site"?
Ashley | 12.30.08 - 2:56 pm |
That was a simple keyboard error...I've been on so many sites...I confused this site with another....Simple as that.
December 30, 2008, 3:19:46 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Hey Chipster, how about a response to my 9:01 from last night?
December 30, 2008, 3:35:15 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Hello All. It's Haggis checking in from Canberra Australia.
I've been on the phone with Chippy and he's been telling me about the great Haggis/Chippy debate going on here. LOL
Firstly I'd like to apologise to FF for abruptly disappearing. This was a chance in a life time, So I grabbed it with both hands.
What Chippy has told you is all true. He is currently staying in my flat. Which I rent from him.
I'll be back end of January all going well. I can't stay long as I'm in a internet cafe but just wanted to try and clear up this misunderstanding.
Happy new year to everyone when it happens. It's nearly here in Australia.
December 30, 2008, 4:13:29 PM EST – Like – Reply
ChippyMinton
HaggisFarmer | 12.30.08 - 4:18 pm |
Cheers mate....We can only hope this clears up all the conspiracy theories that are being thrown around.
December 30, 2008, 4:54:01 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Well I think I've decided on who to nominate for "Load of the Year" post.
December 30, 2008, 5:01:08 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
That was a simple keyboard error...I've been on so many sites...I confused this site with another....Simple as that.
ChippyMinton | 12.30.08 - 3:24 pm | #
Then why didn't you correct Cecelia when she reported that you had been here before. Why then did you say, as AlabamaDem, that you had known Cecelia during your earlier time on this web site. If it was not the J$ web site as you now claim, on what site did you know Cecelia before your arrival here as AlabamaDem?
December 30, 2008, 5:22:16 PM EST – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Johnny, do the IPs match?
December 30, 2008, 5:34:02 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
That story from David Miller from FNC is chilling. I can't imagine how horrible it must be for the Israelies to have to endure that every day.
December 30, 2008, 5:35:58 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
No they don't but Chippy's IP addresses don't even match with themselves. So if he can change IP addresses that easily it's not that hard to come up with another one when the need arises.
You have to wonder, though, why someone goes thru the trouble of posting under multiple IPs. If he has nothing to hide.
December 30, 2008, 5:40:27 PM EST – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Or posting under multiple names.
December 30, 2008, 5:41:58 PM EST – Like – Reply
ChippyMinton
but Chippy's IP addresses don't even match with themselves.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 12.30.08 - 5:45 pm |
That's funny....Only a week or so ago...You were telling us that my IP was the same...So how do they now not "even match with themselves."
December 30, 2008, 5:49:26 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
The same as what?
December 30, 2008, 5:54:24 PM EST – Like – Reply
ChippyMinton
The same as what?
johnny dollar | Homepage | 12.30.08 - 5:59 pm |
The same IP Haggis has in UK....So I explained the reason for that. But I don't understand your statement "don't even match with themselves." What does this mean?
I'm assuming the IP address that went with Haggis's 4:18 pm post was Australian...Where on earth would I get an Australian IP address from...While sitting in Bonny Scotland.
December 30, 2008, 6:03:21 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
I have some theories:
Theory 1 - Chippy or Haggis found an ancient alien artifact and accidently used it to switch their minds into each others body.
Theory 2 - Chippy has the ability to transport himself to other places on earth in mere minutes. He used is powers to beam himself to Australia, went to an internet cafe, posted as Haggis, the beamed back to the UK
Theory 3 - After several weeks of blatantly lying to everyone on this board, Chippy suddenly turned honest and has been telling the complete truth about Haggis. It is all coincidence that Chippy assumed Haggis writing style and Haggis changed his. It is also coincidence that Haggis, who a short time ago, was in the Outback and completely out of touch, is able to post and clarify the whole matter immediately after I provide proof of Chippy lying about never being on this site before.
Theory 4 - Chippy is simply continueing his lies and is going to unbelievably extreme lengths to try to convince us that he is not Haggis.
I'll go with #4.
December 30, 2008, 6:04:00 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> But I don't understand your statement "don't even match with themselves." What does this mean?
Well, I can explain it by posting all the various IPs that you have used to comment here. Do I have your permission to do that?
December 30, 2008, 6:09:29 PM EST – Like – Reply
ChippyMinton
johnny dollar | Homepage | 12.30.08 - 6:14 pm |
NO...As I said before I don't want my IP plastered all over the net....Thank you.
Ashley | 12.30.08 - 6:09 pm |
Haggis was in the outback....But due to the new year festivities...he's now in Canberra for a few days....hence the net access.
It just all one big conspiracy in your eyes.
You are correct with theory 3: "Chippy suddenly turned honest and has been telling the complete truth about Haggis"
December 30, 2008, 6:18:54 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"I don't want my IP plastered all over the net"
Which one? With several to pick from, you could plaster one or two and still have some left for your private use.
December 30, 2008, 6:24:12 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I'm assuming the IP address that went with Haggis's 4:18 pm post was Australian...Where on earth would I get an Australian IP address from...While sitting in Bonny Scotland.
ChippyMinton | 12.30.08 - 6:08 pm | #
Using Tor you can change IP addresses and view the country your IP appears to originate from. Keep changing until you arrive in Australia- it's quite simple really.
Chippy, you seem confused as to what johnny is talking about with the changing IP addresses. That's funny considering that you have to go to a bit of trouble to do that. It's an intentional act unless you're still on dial-up, where you pull a different address each time you connect from your ISP. However, I know you are using 6Mb ADSL so that's not the case.
You already admit to changing names and now you're changing IPs too...why?
Oh, and welcome back, Haggis!
December 30, 2008, 6:25:05 PM EST – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Folks, you do realize that there is a legion of Fox grudgers out there who think of coming here and throwing out barbs as being the equivalent of the French underground fighter during WWII.
We don't deserve honesty here. At the very best we are sheep and at the worse we are part of some evil Murdoch apparatus.
Chippy, Haggis, Republicankilla, etc are the products of the input of several "freedom fighters" boldly waging war against the forces of darkness here and it's unimportant that they get all the facts right because in their minds, merely getting the gist (that FNC is biased) is "truth" enough.
Know that you are not going to be anything but a mission/target for these control freak/haters. They are here merely to be the ants in your picnic basket. Regard them the same way as you would some religious fanatic demanding an audience at some public gathering or on your front porch.
December 30, 2008, 6:29:52 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
You are correct with theory 3:
ChippyMinton | 12.30.08 - 6:23 pm | #
So it's mere coincidence that you assumed Haggis's writing style and Haggis changed his.
If I could vocalize the following, I would try to make it sound to Bill Cosby as the Lord talking to Noah:
"Riiiight."
December 30, 2008, 6:38:17 PM EST – Like – Reply
ChippyMinton
Thanks FF for putting me straight on what johnny was referring to.
I don't have a static IP....It's what is known as a "dynamic IP address"
The IP changes every time I reconnect the router...So hence Johnny's bewilderment over IPs.
December 30, 2008, 6:39:02 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Fox Fan | 12.30.08 - 6:30 pm | #
If Chippy is using "TOR", then I have to think that he's not really in Scotland like he says. That was one thing he said that I believed, now I have to assume that absolutely everything he says (or she says), is a lie.
Perhaps just another deranged newshound with an insane obsessive compulsion to cause havoc anywhere people speak positively about FNC. These are the people who lose track of their own lies.
I would assume that, from FNC's point of view, it is a good thing to have deranged liars hate you.
December 30, 2008, 6:48:36 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
The IP changes every time I reconnect the router...So hence Johnny's bewilderment over IPs.
ChippyMinton | 12.30.08 - 6:44 pm | #
With millions, maybe billions of possibilities, it's an amazing coincidence that your IP address when you first began to post as AD, was the exact same as Haggis from months ago.
Chippy - you ought to buy some lottery tickets, TODAY!!!!!
December 30, 2008, 6:53:21 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
The IP changes every time I reconnect the router...So hence Johnny's bewilderment over IPs.
ChippyMinton | 12.30.08 - 6:44 pm | #
Oh, and if it does change "every time", then you have no concern about sharing your IP addresses with the rest of us.
December 30, 2008, 6:55:35 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Ashley | 12.30.08 - 5:27 pm | #
By the way Chippy, you were going to share with us that former website where you knew Cecelia?
December 30, 2008, 6:58:31 PM EST – Like – Reply
ChippyMinton
as being the equivalent of the French underground fighter during WWII.
Cecelia | 12.30.08 - 6:34 pm |
Cecelia, I like the sound of that....We're doing good patriotic work...Saving the world from the evils of the Murdoch empire....Especially FNC/NY post/The Sun....These are tools of the Devil.
"ants in your picnic basket"
I'm not so keen on that....But then again ants are the worlds most determined creatures...And they can move mountains when needed....So FNC should be no problem.
December 30, 2008, 6:58:58 PM EST – Like – Reply
Cecelia
With all his experience and credentials, you have to wonder how secure Zbigniew is to go on his daughter's show as an invited guest and insult her colleague and chief host.
I recently read that Brzezinsky insists on appearing alone on news show guest spots.
And they say Henry Kissinger is a "legend in his own mind"...
December 30, 2008, 7:06:43 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
So hence Johnny's bewilderment over IPs.
ChippyMinton | 12.30.08 - 6:44 pm | #
"Johnny's bewilderment"
Almost 30 minutes since J$ allowed this to post and no response; I have two theories on this.
1 - Either Superman or Robocop is physically restraining J$ from responding (It would have to be them, because Charles Atlas in his prime wouldn't have the necessary physical strength)
or
2 - J$ has superhuman powers of self-control.
make that three theories
3 - Julie Banderas just stopped by J$ house.
I personally hope #3 is correct.
December 30, 2008, 7:13:08 PM EST – Like – Reply
Mike C.
You nailed it, Cece.
December 30, 2008, 7:14:36 PM EST – Like – Reply
Cecelia
You nailed it, Cece.
Mike C. | Homepage | 12.30.08 - 7:19 pm | #
Thank you, Mike!
December 30, 2008, 7:37:48 PM EST – Like – Reply
ChippyMinton
Right folks I've a long drive tomorrow/today.
So I'd like to wish everyone a happy new year....Even my detractors....So I suppose that's everyone here.
Fingers crossed the weather in Edinburgh is good this year....Ashley, that's Scotland.
December 30, 2008, 7:40:12 PM EST – Like – Reply
Kirk G.
You have to wonder, though, why someone goes thru the trouble of posting under multiple IPs. If he has nothing to hide.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 12.30.08 - 5:45 pm | #
Or way to much time on ones hands.
December 30, 2008, 8:05:03 PM EST – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Cecelia, I like the sound of that....We're doing good patriotic work...Saving the world from the evils of the Murdoch empire....Especially FNC/NY post/The Sun....These are tools of the Devil.
ChippyMinton | 12.30.08 - 7:03 pm | #
And if Murdoch weren't around you folks would be targeting another "salon" for not thinking as you think and excusing all sorts of deceit and shenanigans there too.
Zealotry always find a target.
December 30, 2008, 8:15:11 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Fingers crossed the weather in Edinburgh is good this year....Ashley, that's Scotland.
ChippyMinton | 12.30.08 - 7:45 pm |
Haggis, after almost a month, finally some truth from you. That's a good thing.
By they way, I understand your failure to provide the name of the other website where you claim to have met Cecelia before posting here. In technical terms, I think it's called "not being able to figure out a new lie to support another lie". You may want to check, you may be eligible for some reimbursement for your tuition to the George Costanza School of Lying.
December 30, 2008, 8:32:02 PM EST – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Ashley, whichever Foxgrudger was playing Chippy/AlabamaDem/Haggis that day stated that he/she knew me from a previous stint of making specious arguments, barbs, misrepresentations, and lies (okay...that's my characterization) at THIS site.
December 30, 2008, 9:00:37 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
The IP changes every time I reconnect the router...So hence Johnny's bewilderment over IPs.
ChippyMinton | 12.30.08 - 6:44 pm | #
This might actually be true, but Chippy doesn't understand the difference between LAN and WAN IPs.
Some ADSL providers do reassign IPs from the ISP DHCP pool each time you connect and they disconnect from the ISP when there are no active sessions on the DSL modem.
Cece, that's an interesting theory on Chippy, but I get the impression that it's one person under several aliases, not many people under a few aliases... I could be wrong.
:?:
December 30, 2008, 9:35:31 PM EST – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Just to be clear, Cece, I meant you nailed it about the motives of the Fox-hating infiltraters. I didn't bother seeing what the elder Brzezinski said, but he's probably a hero to the [far-?]left for what he said.
December 30, 2008, 9:43:54 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Ashley, whichever Foxgrudger was playing Chippy/AlabamaDem/Haggis that day stated that he/she knew me from a previous stint of making specious arguments, barbs, misrepresentations, and lies (okay...that's my characterization) at THIS site.
Cecelia | 12.30.08 - 9:05 pm | #
Oh absolutely. When you read his post to you that he made as Alabama Dem in November, he was clearly talking about you at this site. Here is the post.
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/johnnydollar/hql249198265/#259509
To paraphrase Haggis, your analysis concerning the Fox Haters is spot on. They believe they are on a noble mission to defend the world against Fox, and to them, it's OK to lie, smear, lie again, make stuff up, lie even more, avoid answering questions, lie again, make unsubstantiated claims, lie lots more, and deceive. Chippy/Haggis/PurpleSmoker/HappySmoker/Alabama
Dem/Spider is a stereotypical fox hater. He lies, he deceives, he makes claims he can't substantiate, and he avoids answering 99% of the direct questions posed to him because he cannot substantiate anything he says.
There is no doubt in my mind that Haggis and Chippy are the same. Anyone not sure, go back to the August archives and read some of Haggis' post from then and compare to Chippy. They are exactly the same. Then, compare Haggis in August to Haggis today. It's comical when you see the complete change that Chippy had to make in his writing style in an effort to convince us that Haggis really exists.
Poor Haggis, all he had to do was come back posting as Haggis, say "Hi everybody I'm back" and see if J$ screened him. Based on J$ actions, it's apparent that he would not have stopped Haggis posts (at least as long as he played by the rules).
Instead, Haggis decided to lie then compound that lie with other lies. He truly has become a George Costanza. He has lied repeatedly and I just can't trust a word he says. Maybe he is driving to Edinborough tomorrow, may he has the morning shift at a McDonalds in Illlinois, working with his buddy Patrick.
December 31, 2008, 12:46:02 AM EST – Like – Reply
vstol
Zealotry always find a target.
Cecelia | 12.30.08 - 8:20 pm
Bullseye
December 31, 2008, 1:24:18 AM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
The only person who seems to think that Chippy is not Haggis is Chippy/Haggis...lol
December 31, 2008, 10:32:16 AM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Fox Fan | 12.31.08 - 10:37 am | #
Reminds me of a joke told by Rush Limbaugh during the 95 OJ trial. He described when the defense went on the offense and things were looking up for OJ, OJ leaned over to Johnny Cochrane and exclaimed "Johnny, maybe I didn't do it!".
December 31, 2008, 2:09:45 PM EST – Like – Reply
