Wednesday Links & Open Thread
Latest cable news links [7:15 pm]:
Tuesday's numbers: KOmentum quashed?
CNN-HD: TMI.
Susan Estrich: Veep vetting a thorny venture.
Katie Couric disses Chris? Lou Dobbs disses Brits?
Addicted to CNN.
Bret Baier's stressful father's day (via TVN).
Iraq press corps perseveres.
The Weather Machine is back at work.
Bill and Hillary's enemies list?
Survey suspicions.
Cable's Greek chorus.
Fox fluff to flourish?
More fist bump facets.
Sean Hannity's three-way?
Kyra? Kiran?
Reportorial R&R.
Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in today's open thread. Standard rules apply. fox news cable news
On the Mark
DeBello is on target. An interesting perspective, and an excellent summary.
June 11, 2008, 2:36:19 AM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Fox and friends all over energy issues this morning.And Ralph Reed was there to pimp his book.
He made the statement that ANWR will supply 16 billion barrels of oil,the equivalent of 30 years production from Saudi Arabia.If true,then our problems are over.This will be the biggest oil discovery since,well, the discovery of the Saudi fields in the 20's.
Unfortunately,Mr Reed was lying.
June 11, 2008, 8:19:30 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Vince
We have 200 billion barrels in North Dakota that Congress wont let us touch.
June 11, 2008, 9:17:38 AM EDT – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
NVH... do you have any evidence, or should we just take your word for it?
June 11, 2008, 10:04:06 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Johnny, I hope this is on-topic because it addresses nvh's post on what Ralph Reed said this a.m. on F & F. If not, do know that I had no intention of breaking your rules.
According to the govt:
http://tinyurl.com/69642
Reed gave the high water figure of the TOTAL estimated amount of oil at ANWR, regardless of the technology and cost required to get it. A comment that he should have mediated a bit.
I'm not good at numbers or charts, so read it and see for yourself.
Here's the summary from the site:
"Using a methodology similar to that used in previous USGS assessments in the ANWR and the National Petroleum ReserveAlaska, this study estimates that the total quantity of technically recoverable oil in the 1002 area is 7.7 BBO (mean value), which is distributed among 10 plays. Most of the oil is estimated to occur in the western, undeformed part of the ANWR 1002 area, which is closest to existing infrastructure. Furthermore, the oil is expected to occur in a number of accumulations rather than a single large accumulation. Estimates of economically recoverable oil, expressed by probability curves, show increasing amounts of oil with increasing price. At prices less than $13 per barrel, no commercial oil is estimated, but at a price of $30 per barrel, between 3 and 10.4 billion barrels are estimated. Economic analysis includes the costs of finding, developing, producing, and transporting oil to market based on a 12 percent after-tax return on investment, all calculated in constant 1996 dollars."
June 11, 2008, 10:31:39 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I think this will be the last word on oil drilling. And I think I am going to be a little more proactive watching for the little off-topic attacks that kick start these digressions.
June 11, 2008, 10:39:23 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Johnny, what a piece on the Baier family! I'm glad you linked to TVN's as well so we could see the "all boy" looking Paul Baier.
While at TVN I read on down to the article about Janice Dean. I had no idea that she has MS. I've liked her since her days on Imus.
June 11, 2008, 12:42:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
We linked to that blog entry of hers last weekend (just pointing out how we're ahead of the other sites) and have followed her MS battle here as well. There's a new link up now about her being well enough to be back at work today.
June 11, 2008, 12:54:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
Suggested Couric to said Obamamaniac: Find another line of work.
You go, Katie! I would say that qualifies as a "diss." A good one, too.
June 11, 2008, 1:08:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Jossip's bit on Katie Couric's remarks should read "anonymous, couched, and intentionally diverted".
It was Brian Williams who admitted that he found it hard to be objective about Obama.
But then, I guess Chris could have made that statement at one time or another too.
(Olbermann would consider any championing of any preference he personally feels to be the very pinnacle of objectivity...)
June 11, 2008, 1:14:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
"Watch for mainstream media spin that may portray Hannity's new deal in a negative light."
Goes w/out sayin.....
June 11, 2008, 1:19:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
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June 11, 2008, 2:08:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
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June 11, 2008, 2:15:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Thank you, Johnny Dollar!
June 11, 2008, 2:51:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
On the Mark
Dobbs is off on the Brits now! If intolerance were a virtue, he'd be a living saint!
June 11, 2008, 3:47:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
So much for Messnbc surge, Fox news swept 25-54 demo for every time slot from 5 till 11 on Monday night. Wonder if that will make KO's website.
June 11, 2008, 3:47:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Well wait for Tuesday's numbers before you start popping the champagne corks. I should have the link in an hour or two.
June 11, 2008, 3:49:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
Without primaries the natural order should return.
June 11, 2008, 3:59:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
With these rules violation deletions, I think it's safe for me to come back. Please keep up the crackdown, Johnny.
I was glad to read that Janice Dean is feeling better and back at work. Was the illness she had M.S.-related?
I'm actually looking at jobs at Time Warner and there's a few production assistant jobs at CNN in New York. I don't know what "In Session Program News" is, but it probably relates to CNN. Either way, I may not like CNN's programming, or MSNBC's for that matter, but work is work.
June 11, 2008, 3:59:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Aeris Gainsborough
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June 11, 2008, 4:03:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
All the Dobbs in heaven know it is, MIke!
June 11, 2008, 4:05:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
On the Mark
Insane McCan't
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Sorry for asking, but I am out of Olbermann range. Did he really use this name? Hillarious! And, so to the point.
June 11, 2008, 4:10:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
On the Mark
Without primaries the natural order should return.
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I suspect you are right about this, but what does it say about FNC that it essentially quick kicked on a truly unique election, and such an important one. I surfed through all the cable news networks during the primary, and FNC was, surprisingly, dead. Hume acted like he resented being there and the panel was, largely dull and dreary.
June 11, 2008, 4:14:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
There must be SOME reason they are consistantly #1....
June 11, 2008, 4:19:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply
On the Mark
We've all been partying pretty hard since you left, so I may have missed something, but I would truly appreciate the supporting cable news links. No Beck, Dobbs, Hannity are O'Reilly necessary or desired, nor any articles. I'm well-read, and I know what the periodicals and journals say. Also, no Wiener references, please. If you don't have any supporting links, let's move on from this topic. I am.
June 11, 2008, 4:34:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
On the Mark
Well, Preparation H is #1 in is field, and I assume it is because it relieves itching. Perhaps, FNC election coverage relieved the urge for knowledge and information.
June 11, 2008, 4:37:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
so I may have missed something,
by otm
Yes. You and haggi are very good at that.
June 11, 2008, 4:50:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
The Factor
Poor Olby and Chrissy Mathews. Being on the Clinton's enemies list is a dangerous place to be. They better hope they don't end up like Ron Brown or Web Hubble. Clinton's enemies have a nasty habbit of being found dead.
June 11, 2008, 5:06:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
I am popping the champagne corks and find the idea that the almighty primaries are the most important news event each week to be false. The Republican side of the equation was over 8 to 10 weeks ago, as a result the interest revolved around the democrat side of the equation. Where are liberal democrats going to go to watch results? You got the answer without my help.
June 11, 2008, 5:38:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Enjoy the champagne. Whatever you do, don't go for Merlot.
June 11, 2008, 5:42:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
Thanks Johnny, you're not another one of those Pinot Noir guys are you?
June 11, 2008, 5:46:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Hate to say it, I'm a diet soda/Crystal Light guy myself. Gotta watch the carbs and calories.
June 11, 2008, 5:51:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
Nothing wrong with that, keep the cable news daily poll feature, it will be fun to look back and see how accurate they are. In a few months I'll be interested to see how today's results fare. Like around Labor Day.
June 11, 2008, 6:01:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
Katie gets "worst" for telling the drooler to take a hike. TDF!!
June 11, 2008, 8:29:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
No fan of Katie here, but I can think of scores of worse people in the world than her. Keith is, by far, one of them.
June 11, 2008, 8:33:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
I'm a caffeine free diet soda guy. I'll drink either Coke or Pepsi, but prefer Pepsi.
Anyway, I hope the "KOmentum" has been quashed. I was certainly glad to see he lost in total viewers and the demo last night.
June 11, 2008, 8:37:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I don't drink pop (soda), but coffee- the stronger, the better- and tea are my daily indulgences. Very light cream and sugar, a dusting of cinnamon. I make my coffee in a French press every morning. Love the grit!
There never was any "KOmentum". KO is meaningless, as his and his network's ratings prove. Behind the "tomato network", lol.
June 11, 2008, 8:55:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
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June 11, 2008, 9:25:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
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June 11, 2008, 9:37:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Sorry J$, you can count my rebuttal as OT too.
June 11, 2008, 9:38:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I have done so. I know there's some topic drift to be expected, but I wish people wouldn't show up out of nowhere and re-start a digression after I specifically ask that it end.
June 11, 2008, 9:44:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
No harm no foul, sir.
June 11, 2008, 9:46:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
I'm a leaded latte with whole milk...tea and clotted cream....vodka martini... sort of gal.
It's one of the benefits of being 5'9.5"-- more holding room. My daughter is 5'11" and uses a stainless steel spaghetti container as a travel mug.
Her father's daughter...
June 11, 2008, 10:04:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Someone asked for supporting evidence.Without taking up much space I posted what I thought was a very data packed and reliable site. i'm not looking for a fight,it's been a long day.
June 11, 2008, 10:05:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I wouldn't have deleted it nvh, but it's johnny's site...
5'9.5" Cece? I'm 30 1/2! Be 31 in January.
June 11, 2008, 10:12:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
F.F., just wait. It won't be long until the only way you use 1/2 in counting your age, is if you've decided to stay the same as the year before...
June 11, 2008, 10:27:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Hah, I haven't thought of birthdays as positive since I was 4! It's just a planetary rotation, not a measurement of quality or accomplishments.
June 11, 2008, 10:31:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Sorry johnny, we're drifting.
CNN addiction? Deadly to mental health, similar to a class A narcotic.
/obligatory on-topic
June 11, 2008, 10:34:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
This is better than a series of trolls dragging us off topic. It's keeping me here.
Anyway, I'm surprised by the poll results so far. The majority thinks Laura's show will last a year or more. I said it would last only the three weeks it's scheduled for. But we'll see what happens.
June 11, 2008, 10:38:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I had the same vote Mike. It's based on stated scheduling, no spin.
June 11, 2008, 10:44:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
