Weekend Links & Open Thread
Sunday cable news links [6:48 pm]:
Video: Bret Baier takes a spill;
Griff Jenkins: "a little sporty".
Profile: John King (via ICN).
Sunday talkers.
Sunday schedule changes. Veep coverage.
Skycam sharing. TV gears up for the convention. Fox coverage rundown. Pix: FNC's Denver HQ, CNN's grill.
Adult supervision?
Fox's Democratic insiders. The mile high mob.
Close call in Georgia; video: Afghanistan.
Covering the wait. CNN first: backstory. Turned off by cable.
Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in today's open thread. Standard rules apply. fox news cable news
Mark
When I woke up (during the 0500 Hours US CDST block), I flipped on FNC but it seemed like Ingraham was on (perhaps, a rebroadcast of BOR?). I wanted live news and not just a crawl, so I went to MSNBC. Usual weekend staffing, fairly good, but the "Morning Joe" crew was on at 0600 Hours. Great, great coverage, with lots of Chuck. I did go over to (the weekend) F&F, just a couple of times, but both times one of the dark-haired guys on the show was voicing over one of the "What Biden Said About Obama" McCain commercials*. So, back to MSNBC and some real news .... Doing very well. Stiff competition for the fair and balanced ones.
So glad to be back at home in time for the big story!
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*And, now, before the wailing starts, I am not saying this was representative, just that the few moments I went over, that was happening.
August 23, 2008, 8:23:56 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Rams Fan
Morning Joe and Chuck Todd, the new star of cable news, No other network has any political analysist who can match him.
August 23, 2008, 10:49:47 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
"What Biden Said About Obama" McCain commercials*.
Avoid the facts like the plague. Please.
August 23, 2008, 12:08:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mark
I can assure you if anyone takes political commercials, or indeed product commercials, as the facts, he or she ought to be a character in a Thornton Wilder novel.
Speaking of facts, the story was the selection of a vice-presidential candidate, not the latest negative ad of the other campaign. I can assure you, if McCain nominates Romney on Friday and FNC or MSNBC are showing the (certain to come) Obama ad about all the horrible things Romney said about McCain and McCain said about Romney, I'll be shouting "inappropriate" every bit as loudly. But, please, avoid any discussion of cable news at all costs, Jeff.
August 23, 2008, 1:07:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> I'll be shouting "inappropriate" every bit as loudly
Are you implying that MSNBC has not shown the McCain ad about Biden? Or CNN? That only Fox showed it? Is that your position?
August 23, 2008, 1:20:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Joe Biden is an excellent choice...There unstoppable.
Watched a bit of Cavuto this afternoon(UK time)...He just sounded silly going on & on & on about what size/value of the Biden house was...How come Cavuto insisted on telling his views...The house the helicopter was focusing in on was actually his mothers house and Joe's house was even bigger behind some trees...This was of course totally wrong...His mothers house was at the main entrance and the house Cavuto was talking about was actually Joe Bidens...Was this deliberate?...Or just another FNC mistake?
I think he'll announce 1st thing in the morning.
HaggisFarmer | 08.22.08 - 3:59 pm |
Ashley, here's another reason you should really listen to what I've got to say....My comment yesterday, about when Obama would announce...Don't mean to blow my own trumpet here...But I couldn't have been more spot on. text sent out 3am...As I said..."1st thing in the morning."
August 23, 2008, 1:23:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Mark | 08.23.08 - 8:28 am |
Mark, I also watched a bit of F&F this morning....At a reasonable hour...Biden had rolled down his car window a few weeks?/days? ago and said he wasn't the VP choice...Allison? then tried to turn this into....Was Biden lying...A very low shot...In my eyes.
August 23, 2008, 1:37:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Cheers FF...I'm glad to see someone is laid back enough...Not take everything 110% seriously.
HaggisFarmer | 08.23.08 - 1:06 pm | #
Hear Hear!! (or is it here here, I never figured that out). Haggy is right. With that, I recommend that everyone tune in sometime today to Turner Classic Movies, they are doing a day of the great Laurel & Hardy.
J$ - sorry for the off-topic, but I think L&H warrant it.
August 23, 2008, 1:43:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> Allison? then tried to turn this into....Was Biden lying...A very low shot...In my eyes.
I'm getting tired of your phony and untrue "tests" as you call them, where you make up something and toss it out to smear someone on Fox. This is anything but the first time.
I want you to quote what she said to accuse Biden of lying. Then we'll check the tivo and see how you did.
August 23, 2008, 1:47:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mark
Geez! Take a chill pill, Johnny. I'm not implying that at all. I've hopped all over the dial (that's an anachronism) and I have seen the ad all about. BTW: It's surprisingly, shoddily done ad. I just saw it on MSNBC. Does the material below help?
CNN: Inapprorpriate!
FNC: Inappropriate!
MSNBC: Inappropriate!
You're just spending way too much time with some really paranoid folks, and I'm afraid it must be contagious.
August 23, 2008, 1:48:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
You're not fooling me. Or anyone else.
August 23, 2008, 1:55:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.23.08 - 1:52 pm |
J$...I don't want banned again....So I'll look for a transcript/video...Will post when found...Hopefully Mark saw the same bit and can back me up.
August 23, 2008, 1:56:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.23.08 - 1:52 pm |
Your post has changed since my previous answer.
"Biden had rolled down his car window a few weeks?/days? ago and said he wasn't the VP choice"
Please check the tivo....She said..."it sounded like he was lying"...Something like that...remember a couple of beers had been drunk the night before...So that may not be her exact quote...But it was something like that...I think it happened within the 1st hour....But they did start early.
August 23, 2008, 2:04:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
I know how many houses I own
Mark
Johnny Dollar or Ashley or any of the Pro Fox in here think the sun rises and sets on their precious fair and balanced debate, in their heart like us Olberman supporters, they know their network has some biased but they will spin it in a way that make then look good That is why fair men like Obama and Howard Dean refuse to appear on Fox, Fox is stuck in their own illusion and cannot get out of it
August 23, 2008, 2:10:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> So I'll look for a transcript/video
Uh huh. While you're looking you're also going to have to come up with an explanation for how she could have suggested he was lying, when they were reporting all morning that Biden wasn't told until late last night.
Get that? So the question is, what kind of lying accusation could it be when they made clear he didn't get the phone call until last night?
You're going to have to explain that away too. Unless I get tired of waiting. Then you won't have to.
August 23, 2008, 2:15:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
"Joe Biden was an excellent choice.....there
unstoppable." God I love good understated UK humor. When will the There or Their twins man up and appear on FoxNews. If they can't take the so called heat from Fox, how are they going to stand up to Putin, China and islamofacists. Stoppable with ease.
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August 23, 2008, 2:17:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
I know how many houses I own
Is this Allison we are talking about is not Alysyn on F&F weekends, I sure hope not.
August 23, 2008, 2:18:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
he didn't get the phone call until last night?
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.23.08 - 2:20 pm |
That's the exact reason I was surprised at what she said...Just check the tivo, please.
August 23, 2008, 2:21:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
I know how many houses I own
Are THEY
1 the Obama campaign
2. the press
August 23, 2008, 2:21:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> Just check the tivo, please.
Your wish is my command.
Alisyn was doing a Q&A with a reporter. She asked about the "not the guy" statement. Was it an attempt to throw people off the track, or was it that he just hadn't been told yet?
Answer: He just hadn't been told yet.
Nothing "low" about it. No leading question. No "trying to turn it into lying".
I've said before that people are free here to express opinions--but I won't permit this site to be an enabler for false smears about Fox, or any other personnel for that matter. It is not like this was the first time you were caught, either.
Sorry, pal.
August 23, 2008, 2:31:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
I know how many houses I own
But if you read the interpretation I can see why Haggis would have said that, knowing Fox record of spin.
August 23, 2008, 2:34:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
I know how many houses I own
I was watching the Cavauto - Luntz interview, is Frank Luntz just the biggest ego maniac, and wow he thought Joe Biden was going to be Obama Veep pick damn he is so smart.
August 23, 2008, 2:43:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> But if you read the interpretation...
Reading it isn't enough. understanding it helps too.
If someone is "trying to turn it into lying", this is how it's done:
He's lying.
He's lying, isn't he?
So was he lying, or what?
He wasn't telling the truth.
When someone asks a totally neutral question, giving the two most benign and innocent constructions possible (he was throwing us off the track, or he hadn't been told yet), that is not by any stretch "trying to turn it into lying".
>I can see why Haggis would have said that
Oh I know exactly why Haggis said it. Precisely why. To smear Fox.
And that is the last word on this diversionary smear.
August 23, 2008, 3:00:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
Revealing Observation:
I was channel surfing a little while ago and watched an outstanding, fair and balanced interview on FNC of Democratic Pollster Doug Schoen conducted by Greg P. (if I'm wrong about the name of the FNC anchor, please forgive me). Excellent unbiased questions and honest answers about the Biden pick.
I switched to MSNBC and caught a portion of Chris Matthews interview with Crysal Benton. What a stark difference between the two interviews on the two cable news networks.
Just one of the argumentative, accusatory, gotcha questions from one of MSNBC's Place for Politics upside-down American flag election anchors, Chris Matthews:
"Is that the best you got?"
Need I say more?
August 23, 2008, 3:41:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
I know how many houses I own
Is that your spin vstol, holy cow, I do not want any of the kool aid you are drinking both of those interviews were equally balanced, here we go spin spin spin.
August 23, 2008, 3:53:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
I know how many houses I own
Hey gang after labor day i will have a new website on the net, it is called FoxNewsisFixed.com we can have debates and chat room there will be no censoring every body has an opinion and I will let you use it without any censoring or late postings nothing will be deleted, except personal or racial attacks. So give a fair website a try all Fox Lovers and haters are welcome, also sign up for monthly prizes anf MSNBC and CNN stuff. Coming in early September
August 23, 2008, 4:05:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
I guess my plea to not allow anymore comments from the Fox hating contingent never made it.
On a more relevant note, why does FNC show the news hours that eminated from Studio E ("America's Election HQ") in HD on FOXNews.com, but in SD on TV? I don't get it. The only shows in HD on-air and online are "Fox and Friends" and the "Fox Report." If you can show other Studio E shows in HD online, why can't you do it for TV?
August 23, 2008, 4:16:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
I know how many houses I own | Homepage | 08.23.08 - 3:58 pm | #
Did you see both interviews?
If so, will you please cite a question from the FNC interview that "balances" the question I cited by MSNBC's co-host of election coverage, Chris Matthews?
If you cannot, will you please retract your holy cow, kool-aide drinking, spin, spin, spin accusation, as I take it as a personal attack on my honesty?
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August 23, 2008, 4:20:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Oh boy, "Eyes on Fox" reloaded. We all know how well that went.
Patrick, sknabt used to be a poster here who shared your views and thought there needed to be yet another anti-FNC website in the world. Big. Waste. Of. Time. Market saturation.
Good luck with it however, I'll check it out when you get it running. I sincerely hope the best for you and hope you find the time to run it when summer vacation is over.
August 23, 2008, 4:29:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
To "houses I own" why would any FoxNews fan go on a blog titled "FoxNewsIsFixed"? There are a couple of posters here that will go, but we already have newshounds for Fox bashing. Please go start this enterprise asap as I am sure you will be breaking new ground that they are missing.
August 23, 2008, 5:01:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
J$ - how about replacing that vid with Biden's face, with another vid that will give us Julie Banderas' face. She looks exceptional today in that light blue dress. With that smile, oh my God!!!
Uh-oh, Carl Cameron jus mentioned the Obama gaffe from this morning. Bias! Bias!! Must not mention the facts!!!!
August 23, 2008, 5:07:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Julie always looks exceptional!
August 23, 2008, 5:09:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
I know how many houses I own
but omg how about Courtney Friel that woman is smokin. hot
August 23, 2008, 5:12:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
I know how many houses I own
I will not retract my comment vstol it is my opinion just like you have your, and the kool aid reference was meant in jest so if you took it anything else I apologize, but if u like Fox you spin that way and if you like the other you spin that way, just an opinion nothing more.
August 23, 2008, 5:15:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
Personal analysis of MSNBC bias:
There is no longer any pretense that MSNBC is unbiased in its political reporting. Their bias is undeniable and so obvious a blind, deaf cave man could detect it.
The print media has increased coverage of MSNBC's bias and its possible detrimental effect on the reputation of NBC News. Responses to questions asked of NBC News and MSNBC management no longer contain the "no, not really, we're OK, we know how to seperate comment from news coverage, it's really not a problem."
Recent trial baloons floated by the Peacock Channel and its Cable Peachick are:
1.) It is an economic decision to try to increase viewership by using the FNC formula of appealing to a politically biaseded audience and MSNBC's slanting the reporting slightly to one side, in their case, the left to target an audience, boosted by the election season and Olympics ratings.
2.) It is an attempt by MSNBC to balance the biased reporting on FNC in this crucial election season. The fate of the country hangs in the balance of this election and it's too important to allow Fox News to influence the outcome by distorting the facts. Short version-the ends justify the means.
3.) Yeah, you're right. So, what are you going to do about it?
August 23, 2008, 5:27:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
08.23.08 - 5:20 pm | #
Unacceptable.
I do not spin, I state facts and when I state my opinion, I usually back it up with an example or an explanation. I do not drink kool-aide.
You posted:
Is that your spin vstol, holy cow, I do not want any of the kool aid you are drinking both of those interviews were equally balanced, here we go spin spin spin.
I know how many houses I own | Homepage | 08.23.08 - 3:58 pm | #
Please,
Show an example of spin in my original.
An example of untruthfulness.
As I previously requested, an example of a question in the FNC interview that balances the Matthew's question I cited.
Finally, you still haven't answered the first question I posed to you.
Did you see both interviews?
[note to J$: Sorry for this tit for tat. I'm speaking directly to cable news and bogus commentings by I don't know my ass from third base. Plus the BS personal insuation will not go unchallenged.]
August 23, 2008, 5:41:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Maybe I should have addressed my HD comment to FNC by e-mailing them instead of commenting here.
August 23, 2008, 6:10:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
I know how many houses I own
Why would I do anything about it, you like Fox I like MSNBC/NBC/CNN, and I really like Fox on the weekends, but For Fox besides Hannity/Colmes, you have three newspeople with an agenda and that is Carlson, Doocy and Oreilly and as of lately Carl Cameron, and yes Msnbc has Olberman and to a extent matthews, but Nbc does not and will never use the monicker Fair and Balanced because of Olberman they cannot do that, and is it so hard for some of us to hear the two on F&F say that, when you know they have their finger crossed under the table.
August 23, 2008, 6:14:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
I know how many houses I own
Did i not apologize for the kool aide, did I not say that we have differing opinions you like Fox and I like the rest, get over it and get over your bombaster behavior.
August 23, 2008, 6:16:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mark
I am certain we don't need another pro-FOX nor anti-FOX website, and we don't need anymore hate sites directed at a given cable news personality. We have plenty of all of those, and if they stay on their mission, they tend to be as boring as American cheese. However, a website unaffiliated and unowing to an network or network executive or personality, about the whole of cable news, which allowed wide-ranging, free commentary would be welcome, and I suspect would do very well indeed.
August 23, 2008, 6:35:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply
I know how many houses I own
If you read my website will be for anybody, free to talk about the cable news, politics and all that and my website is my opinion and just a name Fox in MY OPINION SPINS FOR MCCAIN its just an opinions but an opinion supported by many websites, just like there are anti Olberman sites and most of he vemon in here is toward him and some towards Mathews, while I believe Fox has more polarizing personalities Msnbc has newspeople Cnn has newspeople they read the news no entertainment or shock those networks (except for Olberman) would make Edward R Murrow Proud,
August 23, 2008, 7:03:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
Well, Mark since you have the most recent post, do you think a blog titled "FoxNewsIs Fixed" will fit that moderate view that you just endorsed? Does not sound free ranging to me, sounds like Newshounds featuring the same old tired dirt.
August 23, 2008, 7:08:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
I see that TVNewser has an item about the recent NY Times article about advertisors and the Cable News Nets. Besides mentioning the very recent Pew study which shows FNC has the most balanced audience, it also offers a few interesting points:
- Advertisers feel the partisanship of the programming matters less than the ratings the shows can generate
- In 2007, Fox News raised more advertising revenue than CNNHLN combined
- Fox = $460 million
- CNN/HLN = $434 million
- MSNBC = $137 million.
(As many of us would come to expect, MSNBC is in a far-distant last place)
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/generalities/cable_news_wars_through_an_advertisers_lens_92410.asp
August 23, 2008, 7:43:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mark
I would keep an open-mind, David, but if this just proved to be another trashily-written bash site, bashing of FOX, MSNBC, Hannity, Olbermann, any network or any personality, it would be redundant, superfluous, wouldn't it? I will acknowledge the name is not promising. I guess my guidelines would be:
Any network could be praised or criticized.
Any personality could be praised or criticized.
Any poster could be praised or criticized, but personal attacks would not be permitted. Immediate explusion for a period of 1 year for first violation, permanent suspension for second.
The focus would be cable news, but there would be a recognition that topics would necessarily include items on which cable news reports. Therefore, in an election year, politics, short of campaign talking points and other campaign PR releases would be permitted and encouraged.
Topics would not be arbitrarily ended simply because they have flowed over onto protected subject matter, programs or personalities. Indeed, no protected subject matter, programs or personalities would be allowed.
Glib posts by ignorant trolls would not be allowed. Immediate expulsion without possibility of return.
Regular posters, who are at least semi-literate, articulate and interesting* would be offered an opportunity to post extended pieces from time.
Wit and humor would be encouraged.
I envision this an Algonquin Round Table** for cable news.
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*Examples (by enumeration and not limitation) would be Ashley, Cecelia, Fox Fan, Haggis, Mike, Sharon, vstol, you, David and, of course, Johnny. Excluded posters would include anyone who ever used his or her horse's name as an on-line moniker.
**If you have to go to Wikipedia to find out what this is, please go to another site.
August 23, 2008, 7:47:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
I know how many houses I own
Well Mark i guess you told me. I am a college graduate so I know what the words mean. And my point proven if someone gets that mad, then the truth does hurt.
August 23, 2008, 9:20:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
I know how many houses I own
Well from the Glib troll Mark I am taking my ball and going home. Im outta here, you can all take your Fox news and shove it un your fainr and balanced asses.
August 23, 2008, 9:32:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Mark is correct Patrick, the site you're proposing would be a waste of time and energy. If it's obviously a hit-piece site, especially a hit-piece site written with the same style as you use here, it will defeat its purpose and become laughable and an example of the mindset of Fox-haters.
August 23, 2008, 9:33:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Wow, thanks for the memory flash Mark. I haven't thought of the Algonquin Roundtable in years.
I am a big fan of the 1940s play "The Man who Came to Dinner. Many of the key people who were involved in the creation and development of this show were members of TAR. An old time New York institution.
Does the Algonquin Hotel still exist? As a born and bred NY'er, shame on me for not knowing.
August 23, 2008, 9:38:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
I know how many houses I own
Well Fox fan you take your advice and shove it
August 23, 2008, 10:03:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mark
Yes, the Algonquin still exists. My wife and I go to New York during the week between Christmas and New Years every two or three years, and we always stay there.
August 23, 2008, 10:45:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I know how many houses I own | Homepage | 08.23.08 - 9:25 pm | #
In other words Mark, Patrick concedes to the fact that his site would be everything that you said would make it a failure.
I'm still wondering where you got mad...
August 23, 2008, 10:47:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I know how many houses I own | Homepage | 08.23.08 - 10:08 pm | #
I thought you took your ball home. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out!
August 23, 2008, 10:48:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mark
Who is it that is mad? It is not I. If you want to see me mad, then unroll the toilet paper from the bottom side or wrap the vaccum cleaner cord in a figure "8" instead of a plain loop or show up for a job interview with a tie done in a single Windsor. Disagreeing with me never makes me mad. It makes me respect a person, as long as the disagreement is not of whining genre.
I don't see anyone else mad, either.
August 23, 2008, 10:54:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Mark | 08.23.08 - 10:59 pm | #
Thank you for the hearty laugh, the TP pet peeve is reciprocal!
August 23, 2008, 11:04:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
I know how many houses I own
Hey Johnny thanks for the help when Haggis and I are going off you ban us, but Its ok when your cronies gang up nice. This is my last post, I work on mine, and well see, fair and balanced right? just like Fox (fixed)
August 23, 2008, 11:13:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Mark, I guess you and I are johnny's "cronies".
Good luck in your endeavors, Patrick.
August 23, 2008, 11:41:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Is it safe for me to come back now?
August 24, 2008, 12:01:20 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
"...This is my last post...
I know how many houses I own | Homepage | 08.23.08 - 11:18 pm | #
But, two hours earlier....
"I am taking my ball and going home. Im outta here, "
I know how many houses I own | Homepage | 08.23.08 - 9:37 pm | #
He'll be back.
August 24, 2008, 12:01:29 AM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
Just returned home from a preseason NFL game with my son, the upside-down flag spotter.
I know how many houses I own | Homepage | 08.23.08 - 6:21 pm | #
Did you see both interviews?
Yes or no?
August 24, 2008, 12:01:50 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
He'll be back.
Ashley | 08.24.08 - 12:06 am | #
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They always come back. Ask mark. :lol:
August 24, 2008, 1:20:30 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Guest
Johnny,
I'd bet your singing chorus or two of Teddy Pendergrass' "Close the Door" while holding a drink and a plate of dinner that you'd cooked, would do it for Julie.
I've heard somewhere that this can ensure instant popularity and even instant forgiveness of all crimes past, present, and future.
At least for one evening, anyway.
August 24, 2008, 4:27:11 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Thank you for the hearty laugh, the TP pet peeve is reciprocal!
Fox Fan | 08.23.08 - 11:09 pm |
"TP pet peeves", huh?
I suppose that means you are both very "anal"...
August 24, 2008, 8:33:45 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mark
Mark, I guess you and I are johnny's "cronies".
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Well, I am shocked.
I imagine Johnny is as well.
August 24, 2008, 9:35:56 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
We're just having a bit of fun, Cecelia. No need to get snide.
If you're going to turn the conversation to negativity at least direct it against our week-long troll, Patrick.
August 24, 2008, 11:11:10 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mark
Well, FF, be glad the vaccum cleaner cord is not a reciprocal pet peeve, then Ceceilia would say, "You two really suck." And, the tie, well I won't even go there.
August 24, 2008, 11:37:52 AM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
If you're going to turn the conversation to negativity at least direct it against our week-long troll, Patrick.
Fox Fan | 08.24.08 - 11:16 am
I'm sorry to report that our not house broken puppy has found a new home at the pound and appears to be quite comfy and fitting in rather nicely. He does speak highly of all the friends he made here.
Sigh.........
August 24, 2008, 12:06:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
FF,
That joke about obsessiveness was so obvious, I'm surprised that Patrick didn't say it first.
August 24, 2008, 12:37:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mark
Cecelia, go put on your tap-dancing shoes. ---PAUSE--- I'm off to the airport in a few moments, bound for Denver, and this is probably my last post until next week. If I get a chance and a computer, I may give you some updates, but TTFN.
August 24, 2008, 1:10:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
>He does speak highly of all the friends he made here.<
I guess that means he trashed us. (sarcastic): Shocker.
Bret took a spill, but it was minor and quickly forgotten about. Now I know why when tossing to break around 1:00, he said he was going to stay seated because he didn't want to fall down. That was a fun tour, though, of the convention HQ, including a cameo by Steve Doocy. I think I also saw Brian Wilson hard at work.
August 24, 2008, 2:52:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I thought so too. And then I remembered, last Saturday Brian said he'd be back this Saturday. But he wasn't. Bret was.
August 24, 2008, 3:00:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Cecelia, go put on your tap-dancing shoes. ---PAUSE--- I'm off to the airport in a few moments, bound for Denver, and this is probably my last post until next week. If I get a chance and a computer, I may give you some updates, but TTFN.
Mark | 08.24.08 - 1:15 pm | #
Oh, I'm sure you'll be popping up here under one name and biography or another, Mark...
August 24, 2008, 5:13:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
SteveMG
This is unacceptable behavior by some of those in that crowd. Full stop.
Reporters, as we know, wade into marches all the time and ask questions of those in the demonstration.
For anyone to excuse this or to assign blame to the reporter for being "provocative" is, most likely, defending thuggish behavior because they don't like the political views or association of the reporter.
Politics trumps everthing for ideologues.
Whether the reporter is on the left or right and whether the march is for a liberal or conservative cause, to push around a reporter doing his or her job is simply unacceptable.
August 24, 2008, 5:53:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Wow! Ed Rendell, the Governor of Pennsylvania proclaimed today that
MSNBC is "the official network of the Obama campaign."
What took him so long to figure that one out?
August 24, 2008, 10:18:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
