Wednesday Cable News Links and Open Thread
Tuesday's numbers: Bill-Beck-Hannity 1-2-3.
Olbermann: fire Steve Capus?!? Velshi pranked.
Greta vs Conrad part deux. Jim Moret resurfaces.
Paterson w/Imus. Jennifer Griffin on Today.
Red Eye's anti-celebrities. CNN's fuzzy math.
Updated through the day. Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in today's open thread. Standard rules apply. fox news cable news
Danny
On a day when according to Realclearpoltics Obama's approval ratings sank to their lowest level ever, CNN never mentioned it. They were too busy covering the nonstory about Palin's crib notes. Fair and balanced? covering the important news of the day? not at all.
February 10, 2010, 11:03:42 AM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Is there something wrong with JS-Kit account login today? I can't seem to login with it.
Don't panic Danny...I'm sure FNC will keep you fully informed about the approval ratings....I must be missing something....it's averaging at 48%....I'm assuming your only looking at the Marist number 44% and disregarding the others...like ABC news/Wash Post witch have him at 51%.
Joseph Farah of WordNetDaily is coming after FNC....because their largest shareholder...outside the Murdoch family....is Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal with 7%...is this Farah guy a nut or do the regulars here agree with him?...I'm just curious
Audio:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZdDkHQ38zw&feature=player_embedded
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/10/right-rebels-foxnews/
February 10, 2010, 11:37:16 AM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
He's a nut. But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
February 10, 2010, 11:40:39 AM EST – Like – Reply
Danny
Well yeah Haggis you are missing a lot . . . as usual. You have missed what his numbers have been for the last couple of days. He has been as low as 44 in the Rasmussin poll and the average between the approval and disapproval rate has been as low as .3. I foget whether it was Monday or Tuesday, but Realclearpolitics even had the headline that Obama has dropped to a new low. Today is the first day in a while than any poll has shown Obama above 50% and the ABC poll is the only one. That is the real story not how someone makes notes to deliver a really good and effective speech. See this is why you evidence so much ignorance; you rely on media that give you nothing but pap. I feel sorry for you.
February 10, 2010, 12:26:39 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Danny...I rely on media that gives me the news straight....You simple rely on media that gives you what you want to hear...There's nothing wrong with that...but you're only hearing one side.
Palin is a big news story..It's not the fault of the media that she made a swiss cheese of herself,..there simple reporting what they saw.
February 10, 2010, 12:43:16 PM EST – Like – Reply
Danny
"I rely on media that gives me the news straight . . . Palin is a big new story"
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Palin's hand notes a biiiiiiig story while Obama's lowest approval ratings ever is not? hahahahaha you are a riot.
February 10, 2010, 12:54:50 PM EST – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
That's why I rely on RCP's average:
48.0 Approve / 46.4 Disapprove = +1.6
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
Danny's right... these are not good numbers.
February 10, 2010, 12:59:38 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
As you say there not marvellous....But as Obama has said many times...He's there to get the hard things done for the American people and not worry about his poll numbers.
Danny....FNC/the Right complained when the media largely ignored the original rally....But now there reporting it...you don't like what they say and wish them to stop reporting on it....make your mind up please.
February 10, 2010, 1:10:13 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
OK Johnny....Tea Party rally
February 10, 2010, 1:15:29 PM EST – Like – Reply
Danny
He's there to get the hard things done for the American people and not worry about his poll numbers." That's purely a political statement and really should not be allowed. Once again you break the rules. If I commented about what Obama's thinking and doing, I too would be breaking the rules.
I don't mind their reporting the rally. The story was Palin's speech. How she did it barely deserves a passing mention. And, of course, the big story was Obama's lowest poll numbers ever. That they didn't even mention that is really telling.
February 10, 2010, 1:21:35 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
"The story was Palin's speech."
They did report on the speech....But you didn't like that reporting because they weren't praising her enough + they pointed out her total hypocrisy + the little helper notes....so she could remember what her principals were for answering pre-screened questions. On the other hand FNC couldn't praise her enough....so you loved their reporting. just admit it.
February 10, 2010, 1:42:35 PM EST – Like – Reply
Danny
"they pointed out her total hypocrisy + the little helper notes"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH cough cough HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHA
That's your definition of total hypocrisy? A person has notes when they deliver a speech? Hee Hee You say the most ludicrous things.
MSNBC couldn't damn her enough. Chris Matthews even called her a facist. Not a peep from you about that. IMO that is a much better example of total hypocrisy.
February 10, 2010, 1:54:04 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
yup, he's a nut
February 10, 2010, 1:01:33 PM EST – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Re: Red Eye's anti-celebrities
I just love the good Father Morris!
I'm protestant, not Catholic, so perhaps Catholics have a differerent experience with their clergy, but Father Morris' jocular but sincere presence at Red Eye reminds me of the way our Presbyterian ministers were always invited to even the most raucous gatherings in the community where I grew up.
Those pastors had Father Morris' same ability to gaily skip along that fence between having as earthy a good time as everyone else, while maintaining a sense of devout spirituality.
Now pastors of all denominations seem more isolated from the world in general. I think that came about because a reverence for them as a by-product of a reverence for faith has lessen even in the most conservative and/or ethnic of enclaves.
February 10, 2010, 1:53:46 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
"MSNBC couldn't damn her enough"
...and FNC couldn't praise her enough...what's your problem + Beck calls nearly everyone on the left Fascist....for some strange reason....No outcry from Danny-Boy about that.
Palin = attack and sound bites....absolutely no substance. Then we get the ridiculous...suggesting Obama should wage war with Iran for political gain and I though Bush was bad.
February 10, 2010, 2:29:06 PM EST – Like – Reply
Danny
We were discussing Palin and not everyone on the left. You characterize Palin's speech in a way that I don't agree with. But more importantly, that is again a political statement and it should not be allowed. I guess Johnny is asleep at the wheel today.
What is ridiculous is Matthews' assessment: He called her a facist because she advocated war with Iran and because she wants Texas to suceed from the union. She actually said neither of those things. What she did say was that Obama would lose if an election was held today. However, If he declared war on Iran, conditions might change. Not that he would become more popular if he did . . . not that is something that he should do . . . but if we went to war with Iran, it could be a game changer. The results of the decision are unpredictable. She never said that Texas should suceede from the union. She said that some suggested that Texas wanted to suceede but what Texans were really saying was: they wanted to succeed. Don't tell me that you are as dense as Chris Matthews and are unbable to get that. It was a play on words. It is still hypocrisy for you criticize Fox for what you perceive as going overboard in praising the speech and to say nothing about MSNBC's over the top criticism Palin. Nice try but you fail Hagi-boy.
February 10, 2010, 3:08:40 PM EST – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Secede.
February 10, 2010, 3:54:02 PM EST – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Re: "Velshi pranked": I don't know how these morons keep getting through or how they're able to sound so normal before they come clean. What's worse is the attitude they (he?) always take(s?) with whomever the host is. If any other sites posted the video, I'm sure they're celebrating with a series of juvenile memes.
February 10, 2010, 2:43:40 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
Re: Jim Moret resurfaces
Jim Moret also appeared on Bill Handel's afternoon show on KFI yesterday. Very interesting interview. If anyone is interested in listening, attached is the link to the podcast, Moret appears at the halfway point.
http://tinyurl.com/yzdae2v
February 10, 2010, 3:28:52 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
"I guess Johnny is asleep at the wheel today."
Maybe he's still hungover from the Saints unexpected victory
"She said that some suggested that...."
She'll fit right in at FNC if that's what she said...As we all know how the Foxers use this famous phrase with gusto..."some people say"
Now all she has to master is the famous "Cavuto mark" and how to use it properly.
February 10, 2010, 3:39:28 PM EST – Like – Reply
Danny
"Don't tell me that you are as dense as Chris Matthews and are unbable to get that. It was a play on words." I asked you not to tell me that you are as dense as Chris Mathews and darn if you didn't indicate that you are. You should submit an application to work there immediately. You would fit right in there. A little drool on your lips would help, but then I haven't seen you. Maybe you do that already.
February 10, 2010, 3:56:35 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Johnny are you going to allow these ferocious personal attacks from Danny to stand.
Danny...Someone who resorts to personal attacks is an absolute scoundrel in my books.
February 10, 2010, 4:08:29 PM EST – Like – Reply
Danny
Quit whining. I haven't made any personal attacks. I have indlulged in no namecalling. Since I have made no personal attacks, I guess that let's you off the hook with your with your clumsy attempt at name calling (absolute scoundrel). Obviously, it does not apply to me. I do think that you have made an absolute fool of yourself by some of your comments. I suggest that you go away for a time and reocollect yourself; because you are on a downward roll. Quit blaming others for your abject foolishness.
February 10, 2010, 4:27:24 PM EST – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
I.M. Right
Haggy, I have to agree with Danny and say the same to you, don't tell me you are as dense as Chris Matthews. So perhaps you can settle the question, are you as dense as Chris Matthews. I happen to think "no", but would like to hear your take on the matter.
February 10, 2010, 4:31:25 PM EST – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
Haggis
I personally think Chris is a very astute political commentator. He was absolutely spot on with his Palin remarks....I understand folk here don't like to hear the unvarnished truth about Palin....but that's what you get from Chris..no matter what side of the political spectrum your on.
You simply can't rebut his comments....so you start on the personal attacks....Absolute scoundrels!!
Danny have you been on the sauce?...The reason I ask....is because that last post was verging on something I'd expect from the lips of Palin.
February 10, 2010, 4:53:42 PM EST – Like – Reply
Cecelia
What were Matthews' comments? If I think they need rebutting, I will do it.
February 10, 2010, 5:06:14 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Cecelia...I'm not going to do your research for you...Google is a good mate when called upon
February 10, 2010, 5:16:52 PM EST – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Well, you're the one who suggested that no one can rebut Matthews recent evacuations.
What are they?
February 10, 2010, 5:39:57 PM EST – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Chris Matthews has often told the story of when he working on the late Speaker Tip O'Neil's staff, they were visited by Pres. Reagan. "This is where we plot against you", Matthews told the president.
Well, since the Iraq War, Matthews has gone back into his partisan operative mode, issuing talking points, and floating strategy.
Matthews' zeal has been heightened to hack-point by the election of Pres. Obama, who Matthews sees as the advent of all his boyish dreams from his Peace Corp days.
This has led Matthews to issue some of the worst examples of sheer fawning groupie-speak ever to be made by a news analysis host. The most recent being his proclamation that during the TSOU speech, Matthews forgot for a moment that the president is black. (Glenn Beck put that into perspective by asking his audience to imagine telling a surgeon that he is so good that you forgot he is black...)
I don't think Palin is ready for prime time either (in the sense of her running in '12), however the visceral hatred and disdain that she evokes is shocking and utterly puzzling. Matthews is a part of the anti-Palin chorus of hate.
Frankly, Matthews revealed by his treatment of Hillary Clinton, his appetite for busting the chops of women pols with a voraciousness that surpasses his treatment of men.
For you to imply that it's unreasonable to suggest that Matthews is hyper-partisan, brusque with women, and given to the worst sort of personal polemics (as opposed to Glenn Beck's generalizations about leftist ideology and its consequences) is bunk.
February 10, 2010, 5:32:42 PM EST – Like – Reply
Danny
Haggis just because you are on the sause doesn't mean everyone else is .
February 10, 2010, 5:44:49 PM EST – Like – Reply
Danny
BTW I did rebut Mathews but you are too . . . ah . . . Mathews-like to understand it.
February 10, 2010, 5:52:11 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
You simply can't rebut his comments....
Anyone with critical thinking skills or the ability to clearly analyse and issue would know that it is not necessary to rebut anyones comment, such as Chris;s when it is completely absurd on face value.
February 10, 2010, 6:47:08 PM EST – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Gosh! He must have said something REALLY stupid!
February 10, 2010, 7:15:07 PM EST – Like – Reply
RICHARD SCHLOSSER
Intresting...haggis discoved the like button @ 2 days ago and since then almost every post hes made has been liked by a guest....something Ive never seen before....very interresting!
February 10, 2010, 5:00:29 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Ah, that was probably just Stan.
February 10, 2010, 5:01:48 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Haggis
Johnny...glad to see your back at the wheel...Danny was getting concerned.
It's certainly not me hitting the "like" button...but I'm glad to see I've at least one supporter on this site.
Stan was placed into retirement many months ago and is currently enjoying life in Titty Hill.
February 10, 2010, 5:12:18 PM EST – Like – Reply
RICHARD SCHLOSSER
It's certainly not me hitting the "like" button...but I'm glad to see I've at least one supporter on this site.
I'm not sure that a supporter who is afraid to show his name...... is a "real" supporter. I guess Haggy is #1 here with people who dont want to be known.
February 10, 2010, 5:34:24 PM EST – Like – Reply
I.M. Right
I bet the "guest" was a li'l feller from the midwest.
February 10, 2010, 6:57:09 PM EST – Like – Reply
Chris
oh man-will the Olby hypocrisy never end? anyway I did watch that night and thought "so what"
February 10, 2010, 5:52:25 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Haggis, your last comment was removed due to violation of our language rules. Putting improper language in an avatar does not make it proper.
February 10, 2010, 6:40:36 PM EST – Like – Reply
Haggis
Come on....come on....The folks here surly aren't that thin skinned that they can't accept a little avatar...You happy accepted OS and his avatar of Keith as OBL.
Yet it's acceptable to call Chris Matthews "dense"
February 10, 2010, 6:49:01 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Olby Sucks
What's wrong with my avatar?
February 10, 2010, 7:54:05 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Maybe Haggis doesn't like Olbermann. I don't see anything wrong with it.
February 10, 2010, 9:45:20 PM EST – Like – Reply
Grammie
I like your Avatar, OS.
Maybe he's jealous b/c you beat him to it.
February 10, 2010, 9:59:35 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I found a great avatar for you, Haggis!
PICTURES
February 10, 2010, 10:06:28 PM EST – Like – Reply
Grammie
FF, where are these avatars to be found? I feel all left out.
I'll bother you to walk me through getting one after I pick it out, pretty please!
February 10, 2010, 10:27:46 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Grammie, email me when you find a picture that you like and I'll assist.
February 10, 2010, 10:34:37 PM EST – Like – Reply
Grammie
Sure thing. I never turn down help from a nice young man.
However, how or where do I find a picture?
February 10, 2010, 10:40:12 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
What's happened to O'Reilly's 'reality check' segment? Is he still doing it? Don't recall seeing it lately.
February 10, 2010, 10:50:29 PM EST – Like – Reply
Mike C.
It'll probably be back next Monday. It was bumped this week for an extended Weekdays With Bernie. With the addition of Charles [Krauthammer] in Charge, Reality Check appears to be limited to Mondays while the Great American News Quiz moves to Thursdays.
February 10, 2010, 11:46:10 PM EST – Like – Reply
