Tuesday Links & Open Thread
Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:
Factor focus: Florida flap.
Bill Hemmer's nomadic itinerary.
Q&A: Wendy Murphy.
Live, from underwater!
Monday's numbers. Weekend numbers.
Erin Burnett / New York Times controversy.
CNN's investigative unit?
Peeps prepare protest.
Andrea Mitchell: fake interviews?
McCain ad stars Chris Matthews. Video: Matthews with Leno, soliciting votes for Obama?
(MS)NBC plays defense, makes its own rules?
Greta calls sexism. Twice.
Gretchen Carlson re-ups.
Q&A: Soledad O'Brien.
Larry King, menace?
Cody Willard's recuperation.
CNN: Black brothers.
Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in today's open thread. Standard rules apply. fox news cablenews
Jessica
Carlon has the intelligence of a six year old. She's the kind of partisan Republican who embarasses Fox by making statements that are so over the top and broad towards democratic politicians that it becomes a pain for the hillarious "fair and balanced" slogan.
A loss for fox.
July 22, 2008, 1:03:16 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Congrats to Gretchen on the re-up.
I'm glad to see Cody is coming along in his recuperation. I'm looking forward to seeing him back on the air.
July 22, 2008, 1:16:00 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Aeris Gainsborough
Wow, how low will another WOR talk show host go? I mean, this poll on http://www.foxnews.com/oreilly
I was not aware of this poll, until "that website" made me aware of it.
All I can say to that woman, is "aww, poor baby." I support Gavin Newsom.
July 22, 2008, 1:56:50 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Aeris Gainsborough
Other things, from "that website":
http://www.skeeterbitesreport.com/2008/07/right-wing-tv-pundit-oreilly-sticks.html
Warning, death threat, in that link.
Another, about Obama bashing.
Bill O'Reilly calls Al Gore (who WON the Presidency in 2000, until Fox News called it for Chucklentz) "evil enabler" and "coward"
July 22, 2008, 2:02:35 AM EDT – Like – Reply
KeithO
TVNewser claims to haven broken the news on Gretchen Carlson?
Were you the first to break it in the comment section Johnny Dollar? If so, shame on TVNewser.
July 22, 2008, 3:03:23 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Goodness! I had no idea that Gretchen has such an impressive academic background!
Though I have missed E.D. Hill on F & F, I've come to enjoy Gretchen's non-southern girl--more caustic personality. I'm glad she's staying.
July 22, 2008, 8:13:00 AM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
I support Gavin Newsom.
Aeris Gainsborough | Homepage | 07.22.08 - 2:01 am | #
Shocker!
July 22, 2008, 10:35:34 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Well, that guy did give Greta a cheap shot, but considering that she's the one who so radically altered her appearance, how unexplainable can such an observation be?
Being a rude unkind bastard isn't the same as being a sexist or a misogynist.
Greta's thoughts about sexism might be better asked of the industry where she plies her trade. THAT industry seems to be one where a brilliant and experienced woman feels that she must alter her face rather than working the assets she has in the way Julie Banderas works what God gave her.
If Greta is concerned about sexism she doesn't have to go as far away as Mr. Souhan to find it.
July 22, 2008, 10:52:06 AM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
THAT industry seems to be one where a brilliant and experienced woman feels that she must alter her face
Cecelia | 07.22.08 - 10:57 am |
I could not agree with you more. The emphasis on a woman's appearance, while the focus remains on a mans knowledge,education, analysis and credentials is no friend of equality.
July 22, 2008, 11:01:47 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Well, to be accurate it's an appearance oriented industry for men too.
The late Jerry Nachman once joked on his MSNBC show that he only got an in-front-of-the-camera gig because the channel was desperate. Nachman was a veteran reporter/writer.
There is a certain logic about appearance mattering in such a visual medium. There is the fact too that there are women who are good and who are not beautiful, who have let their talent stand on its own-- Andrea Mitchell and Candy Crowley come to mind.
My point was that if Greta is concerned about such standards of appearance and the loutish cracks of some distant colleague, perhaps she should have taken a stand, confronted her industry on her terms, as have Crowley and Mitchell.
July 22, 2008, 11:25:24 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
LOVE Greta's response to the 2nd cheapshot artist! Including his picture in the blog was brilliant!
July 22, 2008, 12:04:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cee Cee Madigan
I support Gavin Newsom.
Aeris Gainsborough | Homepage | 07.22.08 - 2:01 am | #
Shocker!
olby sucks | 07.22.08 - 10:40 am | #
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I am at a loss to understand how this is relevant unless the topic is homphobia. Is it?
July 22, 2008, 12:10:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
It isn't relevant. So don't add to it.
July 22, 2008, 12:18:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Wenchie
Johnny...The Chicago's Sun Time's Lynn Sweet is reporting that Bill Hemmer will be interviewing Obama in London this coming Saturday....
July 22, 2008, 12:27:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Excellent tip. Many thanks. I'll check it out.
July 22, 2008, 12:30:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Wenchie
Welcome...Anytime
July 22, 2008, 12:34:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Why are all those comment being left in? And how dare that guy tell a grieving widow whose husband and two sons were shot dead "aww, poor baby"? If he wants to support Newsom, fine. But don't be ghoulish and cold.
July 22, 2008, 12:46:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Something that seems to have escaped notice yesterday. Friday's numbers show The Factor was #1 in its time slot, but this was without O'Reilly or Laura. E.D. Hill was hosting. I was mildly surprised that Olbermann couldn't beat The O'Hill Factor, but perhaps Friday nights lend themselves to unusual audience numbers.
July 22, 2008, 1:43:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
I mean the ones that commented overnight.
July 22, 2008, 1:58:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
I was mildly surprised that Olbermann couldn't beat The O'Hill Factor, but perhaps Friday nights lend themselves to unusual audience numbers.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 07.22.08 - 1:48 pm | #
Friday nights at MSNBC means only one thing, a 300th rebroadcast of Lockup: Holman.
Seriously, nice to see the good ratings for The Factor even when BOR is off.
July 22, 2008, 2:08:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
That was some great video from Adam Housley.
July 22, 2008, 3:11:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
P2+ Total Day
FNC 827,000 viewers
CNN 480,000 viewers
MSNBC 339,000 viewers
Just as I predicted last week. E.D. Hill pummeled olbermann.
July 22, 2008, 3:14:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
True, but why show the total day numbers (which you have every right to do and I am not arguing against; please don't chide me)?
July 22, 2008, 3:36:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Says Olbermann: We know there are different rules for us, and the viewers I think based on how many of them have turned out know there are different rules.
If someone from FNC said this exact same thing, the Newsbassetts would go ballistic.
July 22, 2008, 4:02:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
It's another sad double standard on display, Ashley. :o(
July 22, 2008, 4:08:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Found this photo reading TV Newser, just had to share....
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/BanderasKelly_7.21.JPG
July 22, 2008, 4:17:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
It's another sad double standard on display, Ashley.
Mike C. | Homepage | 07.22.08 - 4:13 pm | #
Under most circumstances, I would agree. But not when analyzing the hounds. They would have to have standards in the first place in order to be guilty of having double standards.
July 22, 2008, 4:18:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
I just meant in general. The left, especially the far-left, can do whatever the hell it wants and not get criticized for it. But if the right does it, BAM!
July 22, 2008, 4:25:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Or anyone they perceive to be Right.
July 22, 2008, 4:26:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
We know there are different rules for us, and the viewers I think based on how many of them have turned out know there are different rules.
Does anyone know the context of this statement?
As for "The New Yorker",their audience DID get it. It seems that people who don't read the magazine were the ones who didn't get it.
July 22, 2008, 4:26:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Mike C. | Homepage | 07.22.08 - 4:30 pm |
You mean like Move-On,which just skated through the Betray-us flap.
July 22, 2008, 4:27:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
OK, let's dial down the left/right discussion and steer back toward cable news.
July 22, 2008, 4:29:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
Sorry, mikec. I'm gonna blame my pc...
8PM - P2+ (25-54)
The OReilly Factor- 1,840,000 viewers (370,000)
CNN Election Center 553,000 viewers (175,000)
Countdown w. Olbermann 830,000 viewers (275,000)
July 22, 2008, 4:35:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Cecelia | 07.22.08 - 11:30 am
Not meaning to start a fight here, but take note that Ms Crowley and Ms Mitchell do not work for Fox. I have noted several times here that Fox seems to be eager to exploit women's legs and cleavage.
When Ms Van Susteren left CNN for Fox,she had surgery in the interim. A local RW talk-show host had a day's discussion focused on Ms Van Susteren changing her appearance. The consensus from the callers (and the host) was that it was very important for a woman doing news to "look like a fox" (I don't know if the pun was intended).
Men have it much easier in terms of appearance.How else would you explain Jack Cafferty and Lou Dobbs.
July 22, 2008, 4:36:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Does anyone know the context of this statement?
notveryhow | 07.22.08 - 4:31 pm | #
It was KO commenting on the fact that he and Chris Matthews double as news anchors on election nights.
If FNC placed BOR as a news anchor on even one election night, KO would go on a rampage, the Bassetts would scream louder than Krakatoa roared, and Nancy Pelosi would have another reason to resurrect the Fairness Doctrine, so government can decide what gets broadcast.
July 22, 2008, 4:38:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
That anti-Fox rally will occur during "The Live Desk." That website acted like they'll actually be making a difference with this. I doubt FNC will mention it, but you know Bathtub Boy will.
July 22, 2008, 5:39:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oblio
How else would you explain Jack Cafferty and Lou Dobbs.
notveryhow | 07.22.08 - 4:41 pm | #
Thanks, philby!
July 22, 2008, 5:40:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
If FNC placed BOR as a news anchor on even one election night, KO would go on a rampage, the Bassetts would scream louder than Krakatoa roared, and Nancy Pelosi would have another reason to resurrect the Fairness Doctrine, so government can decide what gets broadcast.
Ashley | 07.22.08 - 4:43 pm | #
3 great reasons they should do it! :lol:
July 22, 2008, 5:44:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
nvh, there's no doubt men have it easier in the appearance judging dept in the media, just as they do in all other fields. I didn't suggest otherwise.
However, to go with your scenario about Greta, as well as with the amount of logic you generally display, I have to assume that brilliant and experienced Greta had no other options but FNC. In which case *I would feel compelled to then ask myself why.
July 22, 2008, 5:57:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
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July 22, 2008, 6:04:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Cecelia | 07.22.08 - 6:02 pm |
"amount of logic you generally display,"
Even when I agree with you you insult me.
What scenario did I present about Greta??? I told about a local talk radio host who discussed her surgery and whether a woman doing TV news should be a fox. I don't know of any scenario.
You are a puzzlement.
July 22, 2008, 6:05:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Alfred Hitchcock, Stanley Kubric, and Brian DePalma?
July 22, 2008, 6:09:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
No, dear, you implied that Greta did what was required by Fox
July 22, 2008, 6:11:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
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HaggisFarmer | 07.22.08 - 6:09 pm |
This is only a thought....Instead of deleting the whole post....Could you not just delete the link?
July 22, 2008, 6:16:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
If you must argue about the rules, please do so via email. I don't want to clog up comment threads with such noxious trivia.
July 22, 2008, 6:19:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Danny
You are a puzzlement
Don't be greatly concerned about this Cecelia. NVH is very easily puzzled . . . and easily insulted.
I think you are super!
July 22, 2008, 6:26:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Cecelia | 07.22.08 - 6:16 pm |
Well,I certainly didn't intend to.Can you show where I implied that?My only intent in even mentioning it was to illustrate how the local men focused on looks as a qualification for a women doing news.
There was a gap between her leaving CNN and her starting with Fox, but I did not imply that surgery had anything to do with anything. I probably would not have been aware of it at all if it wasn't for this local radio host, it's not the kind of thing I pay any attention to.
July 22, 2008, 6:29:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Is that all you got,little Dan.
July 22, 2008, 6:30:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
warning
July 22, 2008, 6:32:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Danny
No NVH I do have this:
Not meaning to start a fight here, but take note that Ms Crowley and Ms Mitchell do not work for Fox. I have noted several times here that Fox seems to be eager to exploit women's legs and cleavage.
When Ms Van Susteren left CNN for Fox,she had surgery in the interim. A local RW talk-show host had a day's discussion focused on Ms Van Susteren changing her appearance. The consensus from the callers (and the host) was that it was very important for a woman doing news to "look like a fox" (I don't know if the pun was intended).
If you are not implying that surgery had something to do with her being hired at fox then there is no such thing as a crustacean or atomic weight.
Not telling the truth as usual, I see.
BTW: I am fairly tall. Even more mendacity on your part.
July 22, 2008, 6:34:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
It's been good viewing over the last couple of days, watching the Fox News outrage grow over the Obama trip's media coverage.
Fox news were outraged that Obama hadn't been to Iraq in sometime....And pushed and pushed to get him go....Now He's there....Guess what: Fox are OUTRAGED....I know it's a bummer when a plan back fires :lol:
Doocy even said on Mondays F&F,,,"What can you learn on this sort of trip"....But a few weeks before Doocy was urging Obama to go to Iraq and learn....What's changed?
July 22, 2008, 6:39:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
How can "Fox News" be outraged? Did the Articles of Incorporation hold a press conference to express their outrage? Such sloppy logic!
July 22, 2008, 6:41:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
nvh, you did not mean by your statements that my examples of Mitchell and Crowley-- "do not work for Fox", and
then the statement that FNC exploits its female staffer's "legs and cleavage"that Greta had plastic surgery because that is the what FNC wanted?
July 22, 2008, 6:44:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
"Use our valuable bandwidth"
johnny dollar | Homepage | 07.22.08 - 6:46 pm |
As you say "Use our valuable bandwidth"...I didn't want to use too much by individually writing all the names....I was only trying to be considerate.
July 22, 2008, 6:47:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
There was a gap between her leaving CNN and her starting with Fox, but I did not imply that surgery had anything to do with anything. I probably would not have been aware of it at all if it wasn't for this local radio host, it's not the kind of thing I pay any attention to.
notveryhow | 07.22.08 - 6:34 pm | #
Oh good, nvh. Glad to hear it. Those darn radio jockeys!
July 22, 2008, 6:48:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
HF, and appearing in a timely fashion as well!
July 22, 2008, 6:52:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> I didn't want to use too much by individually writing all the names
Very considerate of you. Because then someone else would have to individually write all the names who said something different, and the thread would get clogged up with annoying back and forths.
Much better to say "Fox News" the corporate entity is outraged, and smear everyone with the same brush. Just expect to be called on that sort of thing when it is pulled.
July 22, 2008, 6:54:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Aeris Gainsborough
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July 22, 2008, 7:07:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Kelly Wolfe (the Wolfe Woman?) of the "Palm Beach Post" just had to work in an O'Reilly attack.
July 22, 2008, 7:14:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Much better to say "Fox News" the corporate entity is outraged, and smear everyone with the same brush
johnny dollar | Homepage | 07.22.08 - 6:59 pm |
J$, You are right...That was unfair of me....I should have made it clear that I was meaning the usual suspects when using the term "Fox News"
July 22, 2008, 7:19:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Danny
"usual suspects" ? Betcha got that from Casablanca didn't you. You do realize that in the movie "the usual suspects" weren't guilty? It was Rick! Rick was the one who shot the German officer; none of the "usual suspects" were guilty.
Fox is Casablanca? Nazi like people routinely accuse "usual suspects" at Fox for things with no reason?
Damn, you may have stumbled on more truth than you realize.
July 22, 2008, 7:30:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
FOX News Hilarity: Producers misspell education (eductaion) during segment on sducation.
Looks like Brian Kilmeade was at the controls that day...You only need to read his well circulated e-mail of proof.
July 22, 2008, 7:36:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> sducation.
You were saying?
July 22, 2008, 7:46:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
"usual suspects" ? Betcha got that from Casablanca didn't you.
Danny | 07.22.08 - 7:35 pm |
Danny, I'm sorry to disappoint you...But the answer is no.
I see your slipping in the term Nazi....You were watching Malkin on F&F this morning....I bet in your next comment you'll slip in the name Victory Column...Am I right?
July 22, 2008, 7:48:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
HF is iteresting in his role as obfuscater, is he not?
Where do they come from and how did they get this way?
July 22, 2008, 7:48:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 07.22.08 - 7:51 pm |
Excellent :lol:
July 22, 2008, 7:49:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
I occasionally take verbal abuse from people I work with,people who believe their delusions. But that does not apply here.
I have refrained from answering your taunts out of respect for the rules of this blog, trying to maintain at least a passing adherence to staying on topic. But I've about had it.
How far back should I go,Danny? You posted "Broadcast news is also downplaying the danger of a nearly inevitable nuclear holocaust."This led to a discussion of risk,and indirectly the ease or difficulty of assembling a nuclear device.You posted a link to the UN.You also accused me of ignorance.
And even the next day,you continued to post criticism of my remarks about the Secretary Generals report,when you had posted the link.I had asked you if you thought the other topics of UN concern should also be covered by the media with as much intensity as the nucear issue,and you mocked the irrelevance of that. If you cannot follow the thread of your own argument then I cannot help you.
You also mocked a statement about isotopes. If you cannot understand the relavence of isotopes to the feasability of assembing a nuclear weapon, then is it any wonder that it is difficult to take your pronouncements about nuclear technology seriously.
Then yesterday you post another absurdity.I let it pass,since to correct your facts would have been O/T. But perhaps it will help you learn the limits of your knowledge.
First,to equate millionaire anchors and multimillion dollar corporations pinging each other over success is just silly.And you also do not understand the Hawthorne ExperimentsThe workers of which you speak were concerned with their base rate being lowered (I can tell you've never worked in a factory).They were not concerned with 'looking bad'.It was obviously a non-union shop.
So you can continue with your ad hominen attacks.I can't stop you,and apparently it's permitted.But mind your P's and Q's,and use the Google,because if you make any factual errors,I will help you fix them.
July 22, 2008, 8:01:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Danny
Since you bring it up, here is the link HF:
http://www.newshounds.us/2008/07/20/maybe_fox_news_needs_to_hire_fact_and_spell_checkers.php#more
The link was posted here earlier on another thread but it wasn't posted by Johnny.
Please point out to me where the word "education" appears in the graphic misspelled or otherwise.
I don't know if the graphic ever matched the article, but I know that that they haven't matched on over 24 hours.
This is what I find hilarious . . . much more funny than the simple misspelling of a word: If you look at the comments section, only two posters seem to have noticed that the article and the graphic don't match.
The other posters who comment before and after the two I mention seem to be oblivious to the fact that education is not in the graphic. None of them notice that the "emperor has no clothes." Even after it has already been pointed out.
One more bit of evidence that the majority who post at Newshounds are either sock puppets employed by the site or mind numbed zombies, who have totally lost the capacity to observe or think for themselves.
Thanks for bringing this up HF. This is priceless!!
July 22, 2008, 8:05:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
And the Wolfe Woman lied in her article. John Fund of "The Wall Street Journal" is not running against Wexler, but he's the guest on "The Factor" right now.
July 22, 2008, 8:09:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Danny | 07.22.08 - 8:10 pm |
I don't know what video your watching....But it's clearly misspelt in the one I'm watching....But you can miss a lot with those Fox News blinders on
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/22/fox-news-hilarity-producers-misspell-education-during-segment-on-education/
July 22, 2008, 8:13:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
patsy, who said anything about crooks and liars? I think you've stepped in it, again.
July 22, 2008, 8:17:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
patsy, don't you feel sorry for your beloved newshounds for being so desperate they have resorted to going after typos?
July 22, 2008, 8:19:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
What do you think of E.D. Hill/Factor pummeling olbermann on Friday night? :lol:
July 22, 2008, 8:21:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
olby sucks | 07.22.08 - 8:24 pm |
You obviously just don't get it...It was a segment on education...Just laugh...Anyone could have done it.
July 22, 2008, 8:22:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
Bring up olbermann getting pummeled and he's gone! Works every time.
July 22, 2008, 8:27:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
olby sucks | 07.22.08 - 8:26 pm |
Good for ED Hill....It's really not the end of the world.
July 22, 2008, 8:30:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Danny
NVH,
You initially said that it would require a mountain of yellow cake which is wrong. Then you said that the firing mechanism would be too heavy. This is all wrong If you really think those things, I can't respect your opinions about suitcase or backpack bombs. Of course, this is all off topic anyway, and you should not have pursued it as far as you did. You were repeatedly warned not to.
You also misunderstand my aggravation with you over the Secretary Generals Report. If you had mentioned a subject that was in the report, and I ahd mocked you and said that you did not know what you were talking about and you used the report to show that you did, I would not accused you of misusing the report.
But no it was the other way aroudn. you kept after me about my nuclear weapon comment telling me that what I said was not credible and you went on and on and on . . . even after you were warned not to. So I used the report to say that the danger was credible. When you saw your argument failed, you obnoxiously and tediously started going through the report item by item saying cable news should talk about this item . . . cable news should talk more about this item. If you can't see that your conduct was really obnoxious, I guess there is no use trying to explain it to you.
Also I don't see why the analogy I used was improper. The employees had a pack mentality. They had an under the table agreement concerning their production. If a fellow worker would not go along with the pack, they would bing him.
Its the same with other networks. They had a pack mentality about what news to cover and how. It was easy for them to follow the pack. When Fox news refused to go along with the pack and offered a superior product Fox was and is binged. If you cannot see the analogy, it says far more about you than it does about me.
I have already explained to you what exactly it is about your behavior that I am not happy with. Although it hasn't very often . . . when someone behaves as badly in real life as you have, I (referring to one of your earlier comments) generally asked them to stop. And you may not believe this, but I haven't had my clock cleaned once.
But you . . . considering your truly abhorrent obnoxious and deliberately rule breaking behavior . . . If you do this in real life I am truly surprised that someone hasn't beat the tar out of you already!
July 22, 2008, 8:35:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Vince will hate me for being an OCD killjoy, but can we get back on the topic of cable news, please?
July 22, 2008, 8:40:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Danny
HF,
I wasn't referring to the graphic at Crooks and Liars. I was referring to the one at Newshounds at the link I gave earlier. Education does not appear in the graphic. You have to have special Newshound zombie blinders not to notice.
What happened at Newshounds is far more hilarious than what you brought up.
July 22, 2008, 8:42:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
And because I'm commenting in here, I got distracted from "The Factor" and will have to watch "Is It Legal?" later without distraction. I think you guys just enjoy the joust, always choosing to acknowledge people that would otherwise go away if you just reported them to Johnny in private.
July 22, 2008, 8:43:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
...and otherwise commented as if they weren't there, like I am about to do:
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the Palm Beach Post lady lied about who'd be on "The Factor" tonight.
July 22, 2008, 8:45:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Danny | 07.22.08 - 8:47 pm |
But you will admit I'm right...It was misspelt.
Mike C...Don't panic you didn't miss much...The highlight was a censored video of Jacksons boob...Bill did say he was in the CBS both at the time of the flashing.
July 22, 2008, 8:51:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
lied about who'd be on "The Factor" tonight.
Mike C. | Homepage | 07.22.08 - 8:50 pm |
And why exactly would she lie about this?
July 22, 2008, 8:53:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Danny
HF,
Yeah, if you will admit that the emperor-has-no-clothes behavior at Newshounds is much funnier.
Mark Twain once said that it is a small mind that can only think of one way to spell a word.
Guess Fox News people aren't small-minded.
July 22, 2008, 8:55:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> But you will admit I'm right...It was misspelt.
And so what? Typos on news chryons are so commonplace that ICN stopped reporting on them because he was getting too many submissions.
This one is only a big deal because it was Fox (and naturally Olbermann whipped it up into some sort of attack-Democrats expose tonight). The hypocritical plastering of this story all over the internets reveals much.
If you're going to talk typos, you might as well talk real typos:
http://homepage.mac.com/ahaney/SAPics/WorstTypoEver.jpg
July 22, 2008, 8:59:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
sharm
Worst typo ever just doesn't cover it. Wow.
July 22, 2008, 9:06:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
J$....I'll point you to my answer earlier (below)..."Anyone could have done it."
I know everyone makes mistakes...Even the Mighty BBC...They interviewed the wrong guy :lol: So mistakes happen....No need to get so up tight about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWAvHnfJsOQ
olby sucks | 07.22.08 - 8:24 pm |
You obviously just don't get it...It was a segment on education...Just laugh...Anyone could have done it.
HaggisFarmer | 07.22.08 - 8:27 pm |
July 22, 2008, 9:07:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
http://homepage.mac.com/ahaney/ S...rstTypoEver.jpg
johnny dollar | Homepage | 07.22.08 - 9:04 pm |
That one's a corker...But just a mistake...But I'm sure Fox found an ulterior motive for it at the time....JOKE
July 22, 2008, 9:15:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
I'll bet my last dollar patsy never made a peep when the drooler called obama 'osama' and when it was put on the screen the same way. Not a peep.
July 22, 2008, 9:21:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I nuked a couple of messages as people went off topic.
July 22, 2008, 9:32:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
I nuked....
johnny dollar | Homepage | 07.22.08 - 9:37 pm |
Interesting word to use...What group are you with?
July 22, 2008, 9:35:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
"Nuking comments" is widely understood terminology on forums/comment sections. There are even programs developed to automate it on any PHP blog/forum:
http://tinyurl.com/67sq6y
July 22, 2008, 10:23:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
Interesting word to use...What group are you with?
HaggisFarmer | 07.22.08 - 9:40 pm | #
I highly doubt he's in the "against us" group.
July 22, 2008, 10:45:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Good point, OS. Which group do you think would use a nuke "against us", terrorist appeasers or terrorist hunters?
July 22, 2008, 10:50:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Damail
Johnny, I have neglected to tell you Newshounds' most blatant example of hypocrisy and cowardice recently. It involves the passing of Tony Snow. It's on their thread "Bill O'Reilly predictably clouds time of tribute with anger". Somebody pointedly asked them why oh why did they feel compelled to close entirely the comments on the thread announcing Snow's death. One of the poodles replied they simply posted the news as a public service and didn't want to turn that into "a three-ring circus".
So I asked them, "THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU DO THE SAME THING REGARDING THE PASSING OF TIM RUSSERT?"
They deleted the question as "irrelevant".
Unbelievable cowardly. And I said so later. Check out their archives.
July 23, 2008, 12:44:19 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cee Cee Madigan
The most analytical sound and cogent argument award goes to the Farmer for his link between Steve Doocy critcizing Barack Obama for not going to Iraq, then critcizing him for going. The standard for such visits has been set very low when John McCain was prompted by the other two members of the Three Stooges on his most recent trip. Perhaps next time John McCain can check up on progress along the Iraq-Pakistan border. I am sure Steve Doocy will not even notice, McCain 2008 spokesman he is.
July 23, 2008, 12:48:06 AM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
Damail, they're asking for you over at the pound.
July 23, 2008, 12:54:17 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> critcizing Barack Obama for not going to Iraq, then critcizing him for going.
Well maybe, if that happened. I'm not convinced that it did. And no argument is sound or cogent if it's based on false data.
July 23, 2008, 1:07:14 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
One final note in here: Ms. Wolfe updated her article noting John Fund was the guest and Edward Lynch merely researched the story. If my calling out 5 1/2 hours ago had anything to do with the update, glad I could help.
July 23, 2008, 1:46:45 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Tonys Ghost
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July 23, 2008, 7:45:00 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Kelly Wolfe's revised article has made it to--wait for it--today's O'Round The World news links on BillOReilly.com. What a turn of events after I [likely unfairly] accused her of lying and attacking BOR.
July 23, 2008, 12:37:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
