3/3/09 1:21 PM

Newshounds 'Pornography' Smear Enrages Marina Fans

Updated! One sure sign of desperation among the Fox haters: playing the "pornography" card. And sure enough, that's exactly what's been served up by the newshounds (another fine product of the Outfoxed mob).

Now you may think that pornography is "obscene writings, drawings, photographs, or the like"; if so, you agree with the Random House Unabridged Dictionary. But over at the pound, when something airs on FNC they see it a little differently. The hounds have described the following as pornography: clips from the Miss USA pageant, a Snapple commercial, Golfer Natalie Gulbis in FHM magazine, and the Michael Jackson trial. In fact, they even assailed Alisyn Camerota's hairdo for looking like porn!

Perhaps the ultimate absurdity was reached this weekend when Ellen decided that philologist Marina Orlova's latest appearance on Fox News constituted "soft core porn"! No, we are not making this up:

FOX News Soft Core Porn For Valentine's Day...Marina just happened to show up in a sleeveless halter top in the middle of February. She was also so excited by her etymology that she could not help shaking her large chest at nearly every word. I'm surprised she didn't jump up and squeal, "Coochie Coochie!"
In this case, it's not necessary for us to demolish Ms Brodsky's bizarre claims, because Marina's fans, at her website, did the job for us:
  • wtf soft core porn ??!!! That newshound site is filled with FOX haters for all I know … or they are very conservative and doesn’t like the idea of smart and pretty girls
  • They are Fox haters and they’re far-far-left. Newshounds is an unreliable website with a poor track record in telling the truth.
  • I agree with you that Newshounds is an unreliable source of information.
  • That woman Ellen, who wrote that piece, seems to be suffering from a severe case of Breast Envy! I had to watch the show again to confirm my conviction that there was no mammary agitation going on, but confirm it I did. Marina was shaking her head and moving her arms about a lot but the wobbly bits were well lashed down and in no danger of going overboard in a storm.
  • just watched it again too Bob and I didn’t see any unnecessary movement or any movement that would constitute a write up like Marina got from that rag of a news letter. Some people are just jealous of others and have to cut them down to make themselves look good. But in this case she made herself and her rag look bad. As they say bad news sells good news fails.
  • Marina I know you don’t like to stir the pot. But if I were you I would give this person a piece of your mind over the trash she talked about your performance on the O'Reilly show. Who cares if it’s February and your in a halter top. It’s warm right now and I would think that the show has heat in the building. What did she want you to wear a danged overcoat. Maybe your the sexy female she would like to be and takes it out on others. I hope she reads this and gives me a comment so I can give her one back that she won't like.
  • People without talent become critics of those who have talent. Marina is very clever and has a great show and people are jealous of her. Don’t worry Cap, many use Marina for publicity since they can’t get it on their own.
Ouch.

Update: Marina has added her own reaction to Ellen's "porn" smear:
I get attacked quite often by people when I appear on the O’Reilly show, but it’s simply by people who are attacking Bill and trying to use me as ammo. You would think that people would appreciate the break from politics to learn a little history… but they don’t. No big deal on my part.

Postscript: Does the video posted by Ellen even work? Not for us. And yet, strangely, none of the 15 comments on her article mention this. Are Ellen's readers reacting to a video they haven't even watched?! The screengrab below illustrates the hounds' non-functioning video.






Olby Sucks
ellen flat out lied by claiming she shook her chest around. I tried pointing out her blatant lie, but, the brodsky firewall doesn't allow truth........
February 14, 2009, 10:38:51 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Well, duh.... she's obviously playing the smart blonde bombshell thing up to the max. So what?
 
The subject IS absolutely fascinating. Marina IS as cute as a button. You'd think Ellen could just forget about hating Bill for a moment and enjoy both the topic and that it is expounded upon by a zany lovely person.
 
Would that kill her or something?
February 15, 2009, 12:22:26 AM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Newshounds. An endless source of self-inflicted humor.  
 
Ellen looks particularly dreadful next to Marina...
February 15, 2009, 12:24:32 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Would that kill her or something?
Cecelia | 02.15.09 - 12:27 am | #  
 
Her pent up hate is already doing that. She's a walking tumor.
February 15, 2009, 12:49:10 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Oh, look, our MikeC is posting on Marina's blog. He's asking for the origins of the term "mulligan".
February 15, 2009, 1:01:04 AM EST – Like – Reply


The Crimson Executioner
The "pornography" thing is an intentional overstatement used to make the point that the "family values" Christian conservatives on Fox "News" have no problem using sex to sell and will resort to this kind of exploitation at every opportunity, seemingly borrowing this tactic from the cheap low-brow (often conservative) tabloid "news" publications (you know, the kind of paper that might give someone liks a "Curtis Sliwa" OpEd space) that somehow are able to devote a page to some bikini girl everyday. What's wrong with that? To me, nothing, really. To others, they may take exception to the tawdriness and the exploitation aspect of it. Feminists who have strived to elevate women so that they are worth more to society than sexual objects may have issue with it.  
 
But to me it's more indicative of the low-brow and moronic nature of Fox "News" in general. This kind of thing is only found in the lowest most moronic of tabloid daily newspapers, which Fox "News" emulates. It's indicative of the journalistic level of Fox "News" that they resort to this sort of thing so often, and the demographic they cater to. No need to go citing definitions in dictionaries of what pornography is. No need to be so literal. No it's not "literally" pornography - obviously. Political pornography, maybe, but not literally porn.
 
As far as Marina is concerned - didn't see the segment, don't know if she was shakin' it. But don't you find that sleeveless thing she's wearing a little silly - especially in February in New York? What if some woman in your office came in to work wearing that in February, or any time really? Think it might raise an eyebrow or two or three? Would some folks think she's off her rocker? Would it be considered professional? Appropriate for the office or any professional setting, which most would consider a TV interview setting to be? Would her manager maybe have to have a little chat with her about appropriate attire and explain the difference between what's okay to wear in a professional setting and nightclub attire?  
 
Marina is a philogist who happens to be attractive. She's using her looks to rise above the din of other "philogists" - which I imagine ain't too hard to do within the "philogist" community. Fox "News" happily complies - obviously not over any interest they or their audience may have in "philogy" or anything else Ms Marina Orlova might have to say, but because she's the equivalent of a very willing tabloid page 7 cutie... There is ZERO difference between the exhibitionist bikini gals who are willing to exploit themselves by send their bikini pics to the tabloids in the hope that they'll have their pic on page 7, and Marina Orlova.  
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marina_Orlova - here's your "Marina" exploiting herself in the picture on the right. Enjoy your 15 minutes, hon.  
 
And don't get me wrong - I'm not judging the likes of Marina Orlova - I'm judging Fox "News" for resorting to this kind of thing for cheap ratings. Stern is great when he does this - he's totally up front and honest about it. If Fox wants to do this they should break in the afternoon and have a wet t-shirt contest and just be up front about it. Here's the Fox "News" bikini babe of the day... Neil Cavuto could host after his cable business network folds.  
 
Fox "News" is being true to form for their exploitative tabloid origins and their service to the lowest common denominator. If Marina was some fat, greazy, middle-aged bald guy who looked like Karl Rove, do you honestly think he would be on to discuss "philogy" - or anything else? Some find it ironic and hypocritical - agree or disagree, that this kind of exploitation is found on a station that caters to the Christian conservative, abstinence, no sex before marriage crowd. Can you see why?  
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February 15, 2009, 9:50:34 AM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Well I personally don't see any problem with the segment.
But we all know why Bill wants her on  
February 15, 2009, 10:19:35 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
This kind of thing is only found in the lowest most moronic of tabloid daily newspapers,
 
by ce
 
Reminds me of mary cary being slobbered on by olbermann on his "news" show aka countdown.
February 15, 2009, 10:41:45 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Can you see why?
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The Crimson Executioner | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 9:55 am | #  
 
No. Can you elaborate? :lol:
February 15, 2009, 10:52:49 AM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 10:46 am |
 
Mary Carey being on Countdown was perfectly legitimate....She was running for Governor of California after all.
February 15, 2009, 11:41:05 AM EST – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
I watched the video on the Fox site.
 
Crimson nailed it in his superb comment so no need for me to say much more, except that no, she wasn't "shakin' it" - her boobs were well and truly immobilized - but there was no need to do that as her body language more than made up for it. It was real f***-me stuff, rather inapproporate for the setting. In fact, she made me laugh
 


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Pegleg Peggy
But we all know why Bill wants her on  
Haggis | 02.15.09 - 10:24 am | #  
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She should be expecting a phone call from him any second! Hope she likes falafel!
February 15, 2009, 12:09:01 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
.She was running for Governor of California after all.
Haggis | 02.15.09 - 11:46 am | #  
 
I remember you having a much different opinion when she was on Cavuto.....
February 15, 2009, 12:09:54 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"no, she wasn't "shakin' it" - her boobs were well and truly immobilized"
 
Are you saying that Ellen lied about that?!?
February 15, 2009, 12:10:01 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Bet she's a lesbian!
 
Pegleg Peggy | 02.14.09 - 8:52 am | #  
 
Nice!
February 15, 2009, 12:12:51 PM EST – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
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Pegleg Peggy | 02.15.09 - 12:12 pm | #  
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and exactly why did you feel the need to edit out where I said she knew exactly what she was doing to O'Reilly?!
February 15, 2009, 12:19:53 PM EST – Like – Reply


Priscilla
Regarding the Marina material - with all that's going on in the world, why this obsession?Oh, I know - you guys would love to share your loofahs and falafal with her just like your big, pimping daddy Bill O'Reilly. Also noted is Ellen's photograph - nice cheap shot Koldys. Obviously, if we operated on your level we could do the same thing.
 
I really thought this was a blog about cable news:
 
Johnny comment: You msg veers waaaay off the topic of cable news. This is not a Rush Limbaugh discussion site.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.04.09 - 10:09 am  
 
Obviously it's all about trashing News Hounds and masturbating with Marina. How very - uh - junior high school locker-room. Keep up the good work. I'm sure your pals at Fox are very proud of you!

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February 15, 2009, 12:20:10 PM EST – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
Hey, Olbysucker,
 
Petrhaps in your book saying "bet she's a lesbian" is an insult. From me it was merely speculation as a laugh at her legions of salivating fans. I've seen that before - hot-looking women who go out of their way to get men falling all over themselves for them who turn out to be lesbians. I've seen it happen in clubs and pubs where it seems to a deliberate game some of them play. There have also been famous "page 3" girls in Britain who have turned out to be lesbians. Sam Fox is an example, for those who would know who she is.
February 15, 2009, 12:24:46 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"and exactly why did you feel the need to edit out"
 
rules violation: language.
 
Now that I've answered your question, please answer mine. Why did you find it relevant to ask if I was in VietNam?
February 15, 2009, 12:26:03 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
"Regarding the Marina material - with all that's going on in the world, why this obsession?"
 
An excellent question to pose for ellen. The "author."
February 15, 2009, 12:27:40 PM EST – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
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Pegleg Peggy | 02.15.09 - 12:12 pm | #  
 
What, that I called O'Reilly "Bilge"? The only bad language I used, you published, exaclty as I wrote it, stars and all!
February 15, 2009, 12:27:48 PM EST – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
Why did you find it relevant to ask if I was in VietNam?
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 12:31 pm | #  
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Just being nosey!
February 15, 2009, 12:28:55 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Non responsive. That's why you asked the question. What I want to know is what the relevance of your question is. Exactly what point does it address, or what point is it intended to make?
February 15, 2009, 12:30:30 PM EST – Like – Reply


Priscilla
Just realized I made a typo. Word should be "actual." And language - don't think so Koldys. There were no F bombs.

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February 15, 2009, 12:30:40 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Sorry but you did break the rules regarding language. And other portions were deleted because they were not on topic or strayed too close to personal attacks on other commenters here.
February 15, 2009, 12:32:57 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I wonder if peggy cares or has ever asked the same of bj clinton..............
February 15, 2009, 12:33:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
Just a throwaway remark, given that you were the right age to have been there at the time. Why does the question bother you so much that you had to bring it from NH forum, where it was barely even noticed, to over here to make an issue of it?
February 15, 2009, 12:35:35 PM EST – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
Sorry but you did break the rules regarding language. And other portions were deleted because they were not on topic or strayed too close to personal attacks on other commenters here.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 12:37 pm | #  
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Is that for me or Priscilla?
February 15, 2009, 12:36:35 PM EST – Like – Reply


Priscilla
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 12:37 pm
 
What "language," Johnny? I merely posted Olby Suck's quote and mentioned what a devoted fan of News Hounds he is! And why are you depriving your fans of the opportunity to see the real Johnny? Course, if I were as "mature" as you, I could embed one of those pics in my next post. Nah - don't want to sink to your level!
February 15, 2009, 12:38:31 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
No that was just for you. Special Delivery, for Valentine's Day.
February 15, 2009, 12:38:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
I remember you having a much different opinion when she was on Cavuto.....
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 12:14 pm |
 
Proof required....If non is forthcoming I can only assume your lying....But we all know Cavuto gets his jollies when those Hooters girls appear with their wonderful business insight.
February 15, 2009, 12:39:03 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"Why does the question bother you"
 
The question doesn't bother me. It appears to disturb you greatly as you repeatedly refuse to say what was the relevance you thought that 'throwaway remark' had. If you're too embarrassed to say your reason for the 'throwaway remark' then that's fine, I can understand that. Just say so.
 
Oh, and about my other question...are you saying Ellen was lying abut the bouncing boobs?
February 15, 2009, 12:40:44 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"What "language," Johnny? I merely posted Olby Suck's quote"
 
I don't know what you're talking about re 'language'.
 
"I could embed one of those pics in my next post. Nah - don't want to sink to your level!"
 
No need to. That's why you have the 'unmoderated' (not) 'off-topic discussions'...it comes in so handy for digging up personal information and alleged pictures of newshound 'enemies'.
 
Thank you for reading J$P.
February 15, 2009, 12:44:19 PM EST – Like – Reply


Priscilla
Hey Johnny. Care to talk about [various off-topic ramblings deleted] I do love how you take up space with quotes from other blogs. It really adds credibilty to your thread (just joking!). Oh, wait. Somebody on some blog referred to you as "an internet crazy." So you are famous!

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February 15, 2009, 12:46:01 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Priscilla, can you answer a question? I mean, an honest answer. As in telling the truth. Ellen has declared that I am not allowed to post at NH because I have my own site and can use that to criticize NH. That's her right.
 
But when I do just as Ellen described, then the newshounds come over here and post at my site. Why is that? Isn't it a bit, um, hypocritical? After all, you have your own site to criticize me, and according to Ellen, that should mean you don't come here. Right?
 
Just what is the NH position on this? Or is it a 'special' rule that only applies to sites that expose the falsehoods of the hounds? Let's have an honest answer please. In your own words.
February 15, 2009, 12:51:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
But we all know Cavuto gets his jollies when those Hooters girls appear with their wonderful business insight.
Haggis | 02.15.09 - 12:44 pm | #  
 
All the proof one needs......
February 15, 2009, 12:58:40 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Here's a great post from Crimson Executioner I just found on the site that just can't get enough of Newshounds:
 
Pegleg Peggy | 02.15.09 - 12:20 pm | #
 
Ironic? OS reports, you decide.......
February 15, 2009, 1:09:32 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 1:03 pm |
 
How is that proof???....You stated I had a completely different attitude when Mary Carey appeared on Cavuto than I did when she appeared on Countdown...I need proof of this claim....And not the waffle you wrote to try and spin out of showing proof.
February 15, 2009, 1:21:42 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Not Mary Carey, but I believe under one of your other aliases you did make some snarky comment about Cavuto and Paris Hilton.
February 15, 2009, 1:32:46 PM EST – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Priscilla | 02.15.09 - 12:25 pm | #  
 
This from one of teh Chief Mutts at News Hounds who constanly allow their sheep to wallow in high school locker room garbage. HYPOCRITS!!!!
February 15, 2009, 1:40:44 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 1:37 pm |
 
To be honest I didn't even know PH had appeared on Cavuto....But Mary Carey was a completely different kettle of fish...She was running for governor and OS claimed I had a different standard for her appearance on Cavuto...He needs to show proof of this or take the remark back....Otherwise I must come to the conclusion he was simply lying.
Johnny, I know your a stickler for proof...So I'm sure you understand me wanting proof....Maybe the threat of a short trip away might help focus his attention on this serious matter....But that's your call Johnny.
February 15, 2009, 1:43:37 PM EST – Like – Reply


Priscilla
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 12:56 pm
 
You'll have to ask Ellen.
February 15, 2009, 1:43:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Speaking of being debunked, haggy, please see friday open thread. Sorry, I had to educate you about uk advertising laws. I'm sure it's quite embarrassing as evidenced by your silence........
February 15, 2009, 1:44:47 PM EST – Like – Reply


Blackflon
I'll give you credit Johnny. You allow the Mutts to come over to this site while they will ban you or ignore people out of simple ignorance.
February 15, 2009, 1:45:52 PM EST – Like – Reply


Priscilla
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 12:56 pm
 
Oh, and BTW, I thought that this site was about cable news gossip and chat - not about trashing News Hounds. If this is an "I love Fox" site just say it. Be "fair and balanced" like Fox!! (not). "Let's have an honest answer."
February 15, 2009, 1:47:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


Priscilla
Blackflon | 02.15.09 - 1:50 pm  
 
I posted an "Olby Sucks" comment earlier which was edited out. It underscored, once again, why we don't allow this type of comment. And if you spend much of your time insulting us on this blog, Hound Watcher, why would we allow you on ours? Talk about ignorance....
February 15, 2009, 1:50:34 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"Maybe the threat of a short trip away might help focus his attention on this serious matter....But that's your call Johnny."
 
No we don't invoke Moderator's Privilege for disputes between commenters. It's for false statements about Fox or this site. I'm sorry if the rule isn't sufficiently clear on that.
 
OS, your diversion into uk advertising laws should go in one of the open threads. Let's not lose focus on the topic here.
February 15, 2009, 1:51:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"You'll have to ask Ellen."
 
So even newshound writers don't know what the policy is? Or have no opinion of it whatsoever? Or is that just the answer you were told to give? Most confusing.
February 15, 2009, 1:52:25 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 1:49 pm |
 
No education needed....I'll admit it was a bit underhanded of me trying to sneak that one past...I honestly thought you'd have better things to do than check up the rules that apply to UK ad breaks  But well spotted.
 
But this isn't getting you any closer to the proof you need to provide....Maybe try spending as much time digging that up as you did on the ad breaks.
February 15, 2009, 1:53:54 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"Oh, and BTW, I thought that this site was about cable news gossip and chat - not about trashing News Hounds."
 
You really have to read more closely. I suggest you start with 'about johnnydollar.us'. This site tells the truth about Fox News by exposing the lies others tell about it. You know, stuff like claiming they saw an anchor smile in approval at something that was said...only it turns out the anchor wasn't even on camera! Remember that one?
February 15, 2009, 1:54:43 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"I posted an "Olby Sucks" comment earlier which was edited out. It underscored, once again, why we don't allow this type of comment."
 
That's nice, but this is a post about the reaction of Marina's fans to the smear that she was a purveyor of porn. It is not about the comments that are or are not allowed at NH. No NH commenters are quoted in the article. It was deleted for the reason given: it's off-topic.
February 15, 2009, 1:57:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Priscilla | 02.15.09 - 1:52 pm | # 
 
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And I thought News Hounds was about Fox News and not about smears and attacks on them just because you disagree with them.
February 15, 2009, 1:58:09 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Any further msgs on uk ad breaks or other irrelevancies will not be posted. Please keep on topic.
February 15, 2009, 1:58:36 PM EST – Like – Reply


Priscilla
Ellen looks particularly dreadful next to Marina...
Fox Fan | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 12:29 am 
 
As I noted Koldys - cheap shot. You're quite the sly guy. You throw the ball (and you have none) and your creeps run with it. Not only is O'Reilly's use of Marina sexist (it gets ratings - I get that) but hypocritical seeing that he's such a morality crusader. Of course his morality crusades ring hollow given his history of sexual harassment - and colorful "etymology." But this thread is laughable as O'Reilly is being defended by quotes from Marina's fans. That would be like if Johnny trashed Ashley Judd and I did a thread with commentary from her fan base. Blog comments - as was said in Plan 9 From Outer Space, "that proves it."
February 15, 2009, 1:59:40 PM EST – Like – Reply


Blackflon
And if you spend much of your time insulting us on this blog, Hound Watcher, why would we allow you on ours? Talk about ignorance....
Priscilla | 02.15.09 - 1:55 pm | # 
 
Insults!!! Oh! The irony!!
February 15, 2009, 2:01:10 PM EST – Like – Reply


Priscilla
So you're defending Fox against lies.

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February 15, 2009, 2:06:59 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Priscilla please avoid making statement's like O'Reilly's "history of sexual harrassment". Aside from being borderline libelous (and quite irrelevant to the subject matter here), it's also an unfounded personal attack, since he has never been found criminally guilty, or civilly liable, for any such charge.
 
In the US we do believe in "innocent until proven guilty".
February 15, 2009, 2:09:02 PM EST – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Priscilla | 02.15.09 - 2:04 pm | # 
 
Having a female guest with rather large fun bags is now sexist? 
 
And what are those comments about Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin and any republican woman at your site called?
 
You better clean those windows in that glass house of yours.
February 15, 2009, 2:11:57 PM EST – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
Sorry but you did break the rules regarding language. And other portions were deleted because they were not on topic or strayed too close to personal attacks on other commenters here.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 12:37 pm | # 
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Yeah, suuuuuuuuure!
February 15, 2009, 2:13:30 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Good. We agree.
February 15, 2009, 2:18:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 12:45 pm | # 
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Not embarassed at all to have asked why you weren't , apparently, in Vietnam in 1967 at the age of 21. It's a natural question given that I had a lot of neighbours and acquaintences the same age who were there at that time. If it bothers you, that's your problem.
 
Now, re Ellen, no I don't think she was lying. The way Marina was wriggling around at times during that segment could have been interpreted as "shakin' it". She was flauntin' it, that's for sure, and for my opinion on that I refer you to Crimson's excellent post earlier whcih expresses my own thoughts on the matter very well.
 
What on earth would you write snotty opinion pieces about if you didn't have Newshounds? Almost all you do aside from bitch about that site is post links. Poor Ellen, it must be quite a burden to be your raison d'etre {shudder}.
 
And blackflon/houndy, did anyone complain that Marina has a big chest? Disingenuous much?
 
Speaking of disingenuous: Mark, tell me again, how much did O'Reilly (or fox) pay Andrea Mackris to shut up and go away?
February 15, 2009, 2:26:28 PM EST – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
Good. We agree.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 2:23 pm | # 
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Nope.
February 15, 2009, 2:27:25 PM EST – Like – Reply


Priscilla
"Having a female guest with rather large fun bags is now sexist?"
 
You don't think "large fun bags" is sexist? Really? Johnny, help me out here. Do you think the female attorneys in your former office would appreciate that type of language? It just underscores the sexism of a society in which "fun bags" are more important than brains. Good work Houndie. And didn't you once mention that you are a substitute high school teacher?
February 15, 2009, 2:29:52 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Having a female guest with rather large fun bags.
Blackflon | 02.15.09 - 2:16 pm |
 
Theyaren't that big...After all they are man made if you get my drift....not my cup of tea...But she obviously helps waken Bill's wee man.  
She does flaunt herself...just check out her youtube videos and that 2009 calendar.
February 15, 2009, 2:33:37 PM EST – Like – Reply


Priscilla
Pegleg Peggy | 02.15.09 - 2:31 pm
 
When O'Reilly interviewed the Obama Girl, the first thing he mentioned was that she did a lot of "writhing" in her video. O'Reilly is truly disturbed - but he's a "traditionalist" so it's OK.
February 15, 2009, 2:35:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"Not embarassed at all to have asked why you weren't , apparently, in Vietnam in 1967"
 
Nobody suggested that you were. But you seem to be embarrassed to explain why it is a 'natural question'. What does it have to do with anything? Are you able to explain that or not?
 
"how much did O'Reilly (or fox) pay Andrea Mackris to shut up and go away?"
 
I guess you'll have to ask Ellen. She decided that someone on Fox made an "outrageous statement" in bringing up Michael Jackson's settlement. According to Ellen, the settlement was irrelevant because it was "entirely legal" and she considered it outrageous that anyone would conclude from a settlement that Jackson was guilty.
 
Now, why don't you take that question to Ellen. Because any further discussion is irrelevant in this thread.
February 15, 2009, 2:37:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
What? She didn't do a lot of writhing in her video? I have been seriously misinformed.
February 15, 2009, 2:39:27 PM EST – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
Some nice tai chi moves there Koldys, but I can spot them a mile away. Along with the red herring. 
 
S'later gators, mom duties beckon (OKCourt Jester OS, here's your cue to bray about "cutting and running").
February 15, 2009, 2:43:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


Pegleg Peggy
What? She didn't do a lot of writhing in her video? I have been seriously misinformed.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 2:44 pm | # 
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Seriuosly misinformed? You mean YOU didn't watch it? LOL
 
byeeeeeeeeee
February 15, 2009, 2:45:01 PM EST – Like – Reply


Blackflon
You don't think "large fun bags" is sexist?
Priscilla | 02.15.09 - 2:34 pm 
 
Does everything have to have a label with you people? The Mutts throw around sexist and racist at every opportunity and then take it upon themselves to practice it on a daily basis.
 
And, no, I don;t think "fun bags" is sexist. I have a sense of humor. Something sorely lacking with sheep at your site. They seem angry so much of the time.
 
Priscilla, you do post some interesting information over there but calling people crazy and assuming things such as "soft porn" brings anything rational you might have to say down in the gutter.
 
And, PLEASE, don't tell me us it is sarcasm.
February 15, 2009, 2:53:42 PM EST – Like – Reply


James
I commented about this on newshounds but of course they edited my comment..... I said ellen was a conceited ingorant bitch and told her i had to watch the video again to chek if thier were boobs because i was busy watching what marina was actually sayin hiding something from us ellen?
 
I said she must be pretty thick if she can't embed a video properly when Marina built herself up from nothing
February 15, 2009, 3:09:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Well I don't think the b-word is nice to use but I left it in your message for illustrative purposes. It only took me 30 seconds to find newshounds comments that used the B-word against Laura Bush, Mary Matalin, and others who appeared on Fox. So while I understand why they could edit that word out, the fact that they allow it when it suits their purposes says a lot.
February 15, 2009, 3:27:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 12:14 pm |
 
OS, I'm Still waiting for that proof.
February 15, 2009, 3:28:31 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Well I don't think the b-word is nice to use but I left it in your message for illustrative purposes. 
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 3:32 pm |
 
Come on Johnny...If james had said his ignorant comment about a FNC female....The post would have been edited....Rules shouldn't just apply one way.
February 15, 2009, 3:33:09 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Can you cite one example of that? When have I ever found it acceptable for anyone to call any female a 'bitch' in my comment threads, regardless of who the target of the attack was? Please, back up your comment.
February 15, 2009, 3:43:55 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I posted an "Olby Sucks" comment earlier which was edited out. It underscored, once again, why we don't allow this type of comment. Talk about ignorance....
Priscilla | 02.15.09 - 1:55 pm | # 
 
To: Glenn Beck
 
As a Buffalo native, I would just like to give you a hearty F*CK YOU.
 
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mj-stimulus pkg. recipient | 02.14.09 - 4:21 am | # 
 
Was the post she is referring to anything near as distasteful as this? Their rules clearly only apply to one side. The side that disagrees!
February 15, 2009, 3:45:03 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Rules shouldn't just apply one way.
Haggis | 02.15.09 - 3:38 pm | # 
 
Have you ever expressed that opinion on your beloved "news"hounds? Rhetorical question. Don't bother.
February 15, 2009, 3:46:26 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 3:50 pm |
 
From what you wrote there OS...I'm assuming you would agree with my 3:38 pm?
 
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 3:48 pm |
 
I have to hand it to you....You can spin like a Nascar...But you know I'm correct deep down....don't you?
February 15, 2009, 3:51:38 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
IS that your way of saying "I give up"?
February 15, 2009, 3:52:16 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 3:51 pm | 
 
NO....I haven't posted a comment there for ages and ages....So you spouting porkers yet again.
Found that proof yet?
February 15, 2009, 3:54:09 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 3:57 pm |
 
You prove to me you have aloud a comment like that about a female at FNC....I'm tempted to try...but it will only appear...Then you'll say there's your proof.
February 15, 2009, 3:57:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Rules shouldn't just apply one way.
Haggis | 02.15.09 - 3:38 pm | # 
 
Couldn't agree more. Now, get over to "news"hounds and pm that to ellen.
February 15, 2009, 3:57:31 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Found that proof yet?
Haggis | 02.15.09 - 3:59 pm | # 
 
You use countless names in hopes of someone trying to pin something on you you said in the past. I'm not playing your game. How many times have you been proven to be being very dishonest at best? Countless.
February 15, 2009, 4:04:48 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 4:09 pm |
 
All I ask is proof of your claim....It can't be that hard...You did have proof before making the claim. I beginning to think you just plucked that claim from your exhaust.
February 15, 2009, 4:15:41 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
You use countless names in hopes of someone trying to pin something on you
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 4:09 pm |
 
Wrong again....I used the other names during the times I was banned....But Johnny admitted he knew it was me...He just allowed me to continue as it was good sport for the Haggis haters.
February 15, 2009, 4:22:57 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Personally, I see absolutely nothing inappropriate, much less pornagraphic, in the heart-felt appreciation of the charms, intelligence, nature and physical attractiveness of the female of our species. In fact, I prefer women over men as companions in numerous activities.
 
Hard core sexual pornography exists, as well as "Soft Porn," and based upon the definition that potrays pornography as, "You'll know it when you see it," Marina Orlova's appearance on The Factor on the day before Valentine's Day is so far away from being porn, it's in an entirely different galaxy. It makes one wonder how anyone, with any amount of honesty, could label it as such.
 
From my perspective, blatant, intentional dishonesty, misrepresentations, distortions and fallaciousness is so offensive as to warrant being labeled pornographic, vulgar and prurient. 
 
I'm sure there are websites that are more disingenuous than NH, but I haven't seen them.
 
Exposing political bias in the media is a noble cause. Uncovering false or misleading reports in the media is a worthy endeavor. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to find those motivations among the personal, ad homined, and sometimes downright silly, attacks against FOX News and it's personnel.
 
Sleaze is sleaze and it's is easy to spot.
 
All of the articles listed below contain falsehoods, either in the headline or the body:
 
FOX News Hypocritically Attacks Obama's Deputy Attorney General Nominee
 
FOX Trots Out Ann Coulter As Economic Expert To Criticize Stimulus Compromise
 
What's Not on Fox News (2): Producer Arrested for Child Porn
 
Greg Jarrett Spins Republican Talking Points (What Else Is New!)
 
Bill O'Reilly Lied About Courtney Martin
 
More Weird History According To Professor Larry Schweikart On Fox&Friends
 
Bill O'Reilly Blames Liberals (And Media Matters In Particular) For His Refusal To Apologize To Helen Thomas
 
Bill O'Reilly Mocks Helen Thomas, Says She's “Like The Wicked Witch of the East”
 
FOX News Soft Core Porn For Valentine's Day
 
Glenn Beck's Phony Baloney Tribute To Plane Crash Victim
 
Bill O'Reilly Attacks Appalachia
February 15, 2009, 4:23:46 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
But we all know Cavuto gets his jollies when those Hooters girls appear with their wonderful business insight.
Haggis | 02.15.09 - 12:44 pm | # 
 
Close enough for me.
February 15, 2009, 4:29:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Haggis | 02.15.09 - 4:27 pm | #
 
Other blogs included. End of discussion.
February 15, 2009, 4:31:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Close enough for me.
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 4:34 pm |
 
Thanks for admitting you had no proof....So in other words you simply lied. I probably would've been banned for this...but I'm sure you'll be just fine.
February 15, 2009, 4:37:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Other blogs included. End of discussion.
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 4:36 pm |
 
Not end of any discussion by any means....I've proven you've lied once today. With that last statement it looks like your at it again...Please show all the posts I've made on all these "other blogs"
February 15, 2009, 4:41:38 PM EST – Like – Reply


James
LOL
February 15, 2009, 4:43:31 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Haggis | 02.15.09 - 4:42 pm | #
 
If you were banned for lying, you wouldn't be posting here today.....or any other day, for that matter.
February 15, 2009, 4:44:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
All right let's cut out the back and forth sniping and get back to the subject matter at hand.
February 15, 2009, 4:47:24 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I probably would've been banned for this...but I'm sure you'll be just fine.
Haggis | 02.15.09 - 4:42 pm | # 
 
Your post in regards "my lie" proves your mindset when it comes to Fox News #1.
 
Also, were you banned when I proved you lied about Murdoch not being able to sell ads? Think before you post, for your own sake.
February 15, 2009, 4:50:31 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
If you were banned for lying, you wouldn't be posting here today.....or any other day, for that matter.
vstol | 02.15.09 - 4:49 pm |
 
Well Johnny there you go. vstol...I'm still here...If I'm reading your last post correctly...you seem to be backing me up over my claim of not lying here (appart from mishearing o'reilly)...Cheers mate....Nice to have someone on my side here.
February 15, 2009, 4:57:30 PM EST – Like – Reply


James
And what does this have to do with HFW's?
February 15, 2009, 5:01:52 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 4:55 pm |
 
OS...johnny has asked for no more ad post in this thread...I'm honouring his request....Think before posting.
February 15, 2009, 5:03:09 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
If I'm reading your last post correctly...
Haggis | 02.15.09 - 5:02 pm | # 
 
You're not, but you knew that.
 
End of O/T back and forth on my part.
February 15, 2009, 5:30:23 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Haggis | 02.15.09 - 5:08 pm | #
 
I would avoid my 4:55 like it was the plague if I was you, too......
February 15, 2009, 5:32:02 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
You're not, but you knew that.
vstol | 02.15.09 - 5:35 pm | 
 
Ho am I supposed to read it?
 
If I lied...You say I wouldn't be here...Banned in other words.
But I am here...So I can't have lied.
February 15, 2009, 5:53:01 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
All I ask is proof of your claim....It can't be that hard...You did have proof before making the claim. I beginning to think you just plucked that claim from your exhaust.
Haggis | 02.15.09 - 4:20 pm | # 
 
This is laughable, Haggis asking for something he won't provide regarding his smear against a very talented person on Fox News. C'mon Haggy, back up your claim about Bret Baier, "It can't be that hard..."
February 15, 2009, 5:55:18 PM EST – Like – Reply


Scott
BTW, Marina is from Russia therefore anything above 10 degrees in the winter is a heat wave. Spinning mutts trying to catch their tail and sniff their butts at the same time.

Edited By Siteowner
February 15, 2009, 6:15:54 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
BTW, Marina is from Russia
Scott | 02.15.09 - 6:20 pm |
 
That's very worrying....Russia you say...Could she be under Putin's control? I'm very surprised Malkin/Hannity/Beck haven't piped up about this security risk. I mean they went after Dunkin Donuts...Malkin in particular...after they using the wrong sort of scarf in an ad...This is much more serious.

Edited By Siteowner
February 15, 2009, 6:38:37 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I go to movies and eat popcorn and hold hands with my husband (we like the simple things...and BTW: the movie Taken KICKS BUTT), and then come back to the Crimson Elocutioner making a ten paragraph mountain out of a molehill, as is his wont...
 
Poor Marina. She can't hep it. She's made that way, Brother Gantry... 
 
Along with the brilliant observation that if Marina looked like a geezer, she might have less opportunity to talk about philology on TV...(ya think...), there's the sturm und drang about FNC assisting Marina in exploiting herself (a sort of Anna Nicole Smith scenario, only with a few heuristic linguist discussions....)
 
Well, far be it for me to disagree with liberal "feminists" when they're bemoaning the cultural messages and imperatives of modern society. I did that once when a 54 year old president used a 22 year old infatuated intern like an ash tray and got told that this was the dude's private life.
 
Besides, I like being on the other side of the "family values" argument when I can-- which is usually when I'm being reprimanded by liberals for not fulfilling their expectations by having the vapors or burning someone at the stake.
 
So here's to the Peglegs, the Prissys and the Crimsons tsk-tsking the 'rhetorically pornographic'.... scenario of a smart blonde bombshell, undeniably with her own mind, strutting her stuff when invited be a smart blonde bombshell on a tv news/analysis show.
 
We are all aware that the devil is not only in such a damning example of exploitative declasse sexism...but he's in the details of who invited her on. 
 
With the gravitas of THAT reality, let's take our wickedness where we can get it, folks and in return let's give them their opportunity for moral outrage. 
 
After all it's a petty scenario for offense and it's a paltry excuse for self-righteous soap boxing. It meaningless. It costs nothing, and it's entertaining as hell to boot!
February 15, 2009, 6:51:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Poor Marina. She can't hep it. She's made that way
Cecelia | 02.15.09 - 6:56 pm |
 
The problem is she's not made that way....There has been interference with Gods design of her to make her look that way.
February 15, 2009, 7:01:46 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
LOVE Haggis' gravatar, Johnny! 
February 15, 2009, 7:06:44 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Thank Haggie; it's his choice.
 
Vstol, your post didn't go thru. Really veering off topic too much.
February 15, 2009, 7:09:27 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Cecelia | 02.15.09 - 7:11 pm |
 
Thanks Cecelia....That comment did surprise me....It's a hairy Haggis....It's origins come from your hairy ears comment a few days ago...Yours is top notch also.
February 15, 2009, 7:17:45 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Ho am I supposed to read it?
 
If I lied...You say I wouldn't be here...Banned in other words.
But I am here...So I can't have lied.
Haggis | 02.15.09 - 5:58 pm | # 
 
I didn't say "If you lied." Everyone one knows you lie.
 
I said "If you were banned for lying, you wouldn't be posting here today.....or any other day, for that matter."
 
This is absolutely my last comment on this.
 
TKS J
February 15, 2009, 7:21:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Haggis, truth in advertising with the gravatar!
 
How out of character for you!
 
Bravo!
February 15, 2009, 7:24:30 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Haggis | 02.15.09 - 7:06 pm | #
 
haggy, you sound awful jealous. Why would that be? Do you have a link to your source?
February 15, 2009, 7:52:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
I always thought that if they can be touched, they must be real.
February 15, 2009, 8:31:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.15.09 - 7:57 pm 
 
Not at all....I personally detest plastic knockers....I'm a natural guy.
February 15, 2009, 8:37:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Having played with plastic knockers before, I can say that there really isn't anything wrong with them. Admit it Haggis, you would motorboat Marina's.
February 15, 2009, 9:17:09 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
I'm a natural guy.HF
 
So would you care to correct your misrepresentaion, albeit most assuredly unintentional, of my words re"IF....banned for lying?"
February 15, 2009, 9:21:24 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Perhaps some day you two boys will graduate from knockers and move on to door bells.
February 15, 2009, 9:32:57 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
The doorbell that opens the entryway? 
 
:lol:
February 15, 2009, 9:45:46 PM EST – Like – Reply


The Crimson Executioner
It meaningless. It costs nothing, and it's entertaining as hell to boot!
Cecelia | 02.15.09 - 6:56 pm | # 
 
Cecelia = lowest common denominator. The same could be said about the bikini girl on page 7 of some tabloid daily newspaper written on the 6th grade level. Point being that this sort of thing isn't "built in" to newspapers or cable news programs that don't cater to morons. Enjoy your bikini girl while you read the 6th-grade level news (if you even bother or if you can find it), your horoscope, a disproportionately large sports section in the back, celebrity gossip, and that OpEd by Curtis Sliwa on the opposite page of the bikini girl... 

After all it's a petty scenario for offense and it's a paltry excuse for self-righteous soap boxing. 
Cecelia | 02.15.09 - 6:56 pm | # 
 
Seems to me, after 9 paragraphs, you're on /your/ soab box... no? 
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The point I was making was that resorting to cheesecake as frequently as FNC does - and it does, within the context of a 24/7 news station belies its low-brow, lowest common denominator tabloid news origins. Instead of seeking out some educated hottie willing to wear a sleeveless top, more appropriate on "that" girl sitting by herself in the corner of the swank hotel bar, in NYC in February...
 
... they should just do what the newspapers do, dispense with the "news" pretext, and just have a 1/2-hour of "The Fox News Hottie of the Day" and do an SI-style video of some daily bikini girl undulating somewhere in the tropics instead of trying to pass this off as news. Like Stern used to say, "Smell the ratings"... 
 
I used to have a calculus prof in college the girls used to like... If only he was born a decade or two later - he could have put on a leather thong and did a lecture on stochastic differential equations and posted it on You Tube! Maybe Hannity would interview him on Fox "News" and he would have his own Wiki page! Oh - it only seems that women "get away" with this sort of thing to, guessing, about a 90/10 ratio. Sexism is alive and well it seems. Geez - now even smart girls who aren't attractive will have to binge and purge and get breast implants - not enough just to have some brains any more. Thanks, Marina for setting such a FINE example. It's not like bulimia, anorexia, and other eating disorders aren't an issue... And no, it's not "your" fault, specifically - but you're another "impression" (in the advertising sense) adding to the bombardment that's shaping perceptions helping to creat this tragedy. 
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February 16, 2009, 10:57:05 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
helping to creat this tragedy.
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The Crimson Executioner | Homepage | 02.16.09 - 11:02 am | # 
 
What a tragedy when an intelligent woman goes on tv wearing a sleeveless shirt. You're desperation to attack Fox News (#1) is really showing.
February 16, 2009, 11:55:25 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
What? No three extra paragraph dedicated to the excoriation of the selling of sex by Madison Ave? Goodness knows THAT's cliche-free unexplored territory...right up there with the uncharted frontier of recipes for ground beef.
 
Or more to the point, perhaps you could work the Wall Street Journal into that mix, considering its parent company.
 
Crimson, I don't know where you've been, but beauty and sex appeal have always been and continue to be a part of television news, from anchor babes to weather ones.
 
It's not for nothing that CNN's Kiran Chetry is posed standing full frontal on the set in clothing that doubtlessly causes her to breath a bit shallowly...
 
It's not as much an attempt to be utterly sanguine about this way of the world, than it is a response to the ridiculous intensity we now see focused from you and yours, chiefly due to your ole nemesis dear Mr. Bill. 
 
If there's a lowest common denominator here, it's the glowering hyperbole and rhetorical overkill that he seems to excite for you, as you lay down paragraph after paragraph of hackneyed utterances this side of every issue of pre-Bill Clinton women's magazines.
 
It's a strange new world, Crimson, and all we can do is to harken back to the pgood ole days before FNC, when female sex appeal was of no consequence on network and local news channels or anywhere else. When women (and men) were prized chiefly for their character, before the current standard of size zero fashions and eleven year old runway models, set by the heterosexual male dominated fashion industry...
 
Marina wrote that she was used to being pilloried because of some animus with O'Reilly. I'd venture to guess you aren't the first to have blamed anorexia and bulimia and plastic surgery on her as well, as anyone could have guessed it was a mere matter of seconds before you went there. Frankly, I would like to commend you for your restraint in not saddling her with the recent upswing in methamphetamine use or perhaps with the budget crunch.
 
Again, if there's a "lowest common denominator" it's found in the smoke from the FNC grudge fire that inspires this sort of excess. 
 
It ain't concern. It ain't scholarship. And it ain't thoughtful. 
 
For your next exegesis perhaps you can rend your garments about the rise in FNC ratings, doubtlessly from those poor ignoramuses that make your liberal heart bleed, but whom you wouldn't be seen dead with. 
 
After all, I believe there just an utter dearth... of analysis out there about the pernicious effects of too much television viewing on the population... so get to work on that new concept and at laying it at the O'Reilly doorstep too.
February 16, 2009, 12:44:07 PM EST – Like – Reply


Sandy
Nope, no sense in trying to post on NH when you catch them in a flat out lie, which is ofter. They won't publish it, or they will change it around to make you look like an idiot.
 
Their blogs have dropped down to almost nothing since they have started to moderate, before they post.
 
They are a useless site, that only influence a handful of wanna be socialists. But the they think in their own minds that they have crediblity.
February 16, 2009, 12:54:55 PM EST – Like – Reply


The Crimson Executioner
What? No three extra paragraph dedicated to the excoriation of the selling of sex by Madison Ave?
 
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Cece - ya can't vetch about the length of my rants in your own rants that are longer than the rants your vetching about... 
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February 16, 2009, 6:34:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


The Crimson Executioner
They are a useless site, that only influence a handful of wanna be socialists. 
Sandy | 02.16.09 - 12:59 pm | # 
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LOL - I love it when someone on the left is refered to as "a socialist" be "conservatives"... just like you're brainwashed to do by listening to hours of RW hate-jock AM radio... You do realize that when you call someone "a socialist" your mind has been fully brainwashed. Do cite anyone advocating socialism over there, please. 
 
... and quit being so silly...
 
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February 16, 2009, 6:39:03 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Cece - ya can't vetch about the length of my rants in your own rants that are longer than the rants your vetching about...
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The Crimson Executioner | 02.16.09 - 6:39 pm | #
 
I have the gift of gab, Crimson, but I make a special and concerted effort to more than repay you. 
February 16, 2009, 8:07:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Do cite anyone advocating socialism over there, please.
 
... and quit being so silly...
 
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The Crimson Executioner | 02.16.09 - 6:44 pm | # 
 
Cite anyone who's not!
February 16, 2009, 8:26:15 PM EST – Like – Reply


Sandy
LOL - I love it when someone on the left is refered to as "a socialist" be "conservatives"... just like you're brainwashed to do by listening to hours of RW hate-jock AM radio... You do realize that when you call someone "a socialist" your mind has been fully brainwashed. Do cite anyone advocating socialism over there, please. 
 
... and quit being so silly...
 
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The Crimson Executioner | 02.16.09 - 6:44 pm | # 
 
Of course this is coming from a frequent blogger at the mutts!
February 16, 2009, 8:47:24 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.16.09 - 8:31 pm | #
 
I remember seeing their Jonathan character saying he had socialist friends. It was a long time ago, can't prove it, just sayin'.
 
I wonder how many of them supported Obama's "stimulus package"? *cough*socialists*cough*
February 16, 2009, 9:10:49 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I wonder how many of them supported Obama's "stimulus package"? *cough*socialists*cough*
Fox Fan | Homepage | 02.16.09 - 9:15 pm | # 
 
Precisely why I asked this question:
 
Cite anyone who's not!
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.16.09 - 8:31 pm | #
February 16, 2009, 9:46:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


The Crimson Executioner
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.16.09 - 9:51 pm | #
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Olby, you really don't want to go there lest I dig up quotes by Republicans and economists who think the stimulus is absolutely necessary and that such stimulus packages don't constitute "socialism"... Desperate (GOP-created) times call for desperate measures. Republicans - modern-day Herbert Hoovers, who would prefer to do nothing than take the necessary risks (that virtually every other country is also taking) to avoid economic calamity. Are you really willing to "do nothing" and "let the market place decide" and watch the financial institutions, retailers, manufacturing, and service sectors all fail and have double-digit unemployment and have a replay of the great depression? 
 
Then - rather than "do something" and "take a risk" they'll be obstructionists and sit on the side-lines and give their beyond tired and stupid cries of "socialism" usually by their idiot surrogates on conservative cretin AM hate-jock radio. 
 
A calamity, incidentally, caused - in part (or possibly in whole) by their own ideologies of "free market" and deregulation resulting in (IMO) criminal negligence by not "keeping an eye" on the 50+ trillion dollar CDS derivative market, which Warren Buffet called a "financial weapon of mass destruction". But why should we do that when Phil "Enron Loophole"/"nation of whiners" Gramm is the one who sponsored the legislation to remove the protections (Deregulate!) against this very thing from happening. And - yes, Clinton signed to bill so he's to blame too. 
 
But it's much easier than - to actually do something, and take a political risk that doesn't involve giving the rich even more tax cuts (while we regular people get a few hundred bucks - yeah, that'll fix things... And do the Republicans have /any/ other ideas?) 
 
... let's just sit on the sidelines, not take any risks, not propose any solutions, and call the folks trying to fix the mess /WE/ created, "Socialists"... 
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February 17, 2009, 8:47:16 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
"Republicans and who think the stimulus is absolutely necessary"
 
by ce
 
Won't be much of a list. I believe it was voted against by 99%. Spector? LOL!
February 17, 2009, 11:19:16 AM EST – Like – Reply