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Cecelia
The pictures of Janice Dean and her family enjoying their new baby boy are so precious!
March 5, 2009, 9:18:08 AM EST – Like – Reply
Tom
To respond to Johnny's claim that the Fox Forum isn't promoting the Republican Party: let's have a look at the latest roundup of articles, in order.
1.) "A Dangerous Game of Chicken: The President versus the Market". Anti-Obama.
2.) "Why Are your tax dollars paying for the White House's Limbaugh Strategy?" Anti-Obama.
3.) "No More Rope-A-Dope with Iran." Neutral policy wonking about Iran.
4.) "OBama's Budget is a Loaded Weapon aimed at you" Anti-Obama
5.) "Hey Congress: Time to Help the Healthy Homeowner" Neutral at best, criticizes Obama's focus on homjeowners facing forclosure.
6.) "Hillary Should Get on the Road to Damascus" Neutral Policy Wonking
7.) "Welcome ot the Pinocchio AdministratioN" Anti-Obama
8.) "Even the Party Faithful Can't Define Conservatism and That's why we're in big trouble" Pro-conservatism
9.) "OBama's Top Five Broken PRomises" Anti-Obama
10.) "Blaming Rush" Anti-Obama
At this point the next ten articles are all anti-Obama. There is not a single pro-Democratic article in there.
They list as follows.
1.) "How Can the Dead Old Party Become the Grand Old Party again?" Tammy Bruce, conservative.
2.) "Let's Come together and save our country's economy" Anti-Obama, written by Reagan appointee
3.) "For the Good of the GOP put the Limbaugh/Steele battle aside" Anti-Obama, pro GOP
4.) "What's wrong with giving tax cuts to everybody" Greg Gutfeld, anti-Obama
5.) "Obama's Scary HOover Style Tax Hikes" Anti-Obama
6.) "On the Loose: the elitist populist spreads destruction with mock outrage" Anti-Obama, furiously anti- John Kerry
7.) "John Kerry Attacks George Will Over Global Warming And Uses his Wife for backup" Anti-Democrat
8.) "A big step toward widespread euthanasia" Social conservative article
9.) "TIme for Republicans to get their ducks in a row" anti-obama, pro GOP
10.) "Blindsided by Obama the Radical" Anti-obama
11.) "Is George Soros a Global Warming Turncoat" anti-global warming, conservative article
So, quite in fact, Johnny. You were wrong. I challenged you to find a single pro-Democrat or pro-Obama article in the last 20-25 articles listed on Fox Forum.
In order to find one, you had to go ALL THE WAY BACK to February 28th, which is roughly 25 articles ago, to Judith Miller.
Is that it? I just listed roughly 20 articles which were conservative, GOP or anti-Obama. Authors included Glenn Beck, Tammy Bruce, Greg Gutfeld, Andrea Tarantos, etc...
You couldn't even find an article by Bob Beckel, Lanny Davis, Susan Estritch or any one else in that span of articles.
And all you've got is one article by Judith Miller praising the withdrawal?
That's it? No offense, but that's pretty lame.
March 5, 2009, 12:39:44 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Thanks but you asked me to prove you wrong, and I did. I could've gone back and found articles by Beckel or Hill or the rest, but it only took one to prove you wrong, and I have other things to do with my time.
BTW in the future, please don't create humungous posts with lengthy cut-and-pastes. Just give a link.
March 5, 2009, 12:48:11 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Last night I met Bernard Goldberg. As many of you know, he is a regular guest on The Factor and Hannity. He appeared at the Richard Nixon Library to speak and to sign his latest book. During his speech, he mentioned an MSNBC attack on Sarah Palin that I had never heard of before. Perhaps someone out there may have a screen capture or some other info on it.
Apparently, at the time when John McCain was formally announcing Sarah Palin as his running mate, MSNBC in its wisdom put up the Chyron that said (I am paraphrasing here) "How many houses will she bring in to the McCain Campaign" as a slam against McCain for being unsure at the time of the number of houses he and his wife owned.
If this is true, it's just more evidence about how in the tank MSNBC is for democrats and how anti-republican it is.
By the way, when I met him afterwards, I shook his hand and said "It's an honor to meet you Mr. Goldberg". He responded to me by saying "Call me Bernie". Very personable guy.
March 5, 2009, 1:30:24 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Good God. A very worthy organization that wants to help rape victims and Olbermann is attacking them over his hatred for BOR. What a slimebag.
Thank you for the link J$ and thank you and Grammie and those at OW for alerting us to this very important issue.
March 5, 2009, 1:33:40 PM EST – Like – Reply
Grammie
What is Fox Forum? I gather from the comments on it here it is not Fox News per se but is a separate vehicle.
Impressive list of titles there. What is in the articles beyond the headline?
March 5, 2009, 1:34:39 PM EST – Like – Reply
Tom
So Johnny, but you lost the argument. Because no rational human being is willing to believe that 20 Republican articles versus 1 Democrat articles = fairness and balance.
"I could've gone back and found articles by Beckel or Hill or the rest, but it only took one to prove you wrong, and I have other things to do with my time."
Yeah, you could have. Problem is, you would have had to include all the Republican articles you ran across in your search. And once, the ratio would have held true.
For every Democrat or liberal who gets to post an article or a column on Fox Forum, there are at LEAST ten Republicans to shout him down.
You lose, Johnny.
March 5, 2009, 1:47:18 PM EST – Like – Reply
Blackflon
That's it? No offense, but that's pretty lame.
Tom | 03.05.09 - 12:44 pm | #
Why not use your brain cells to disprove some of those so called anti Obama issues.
Here's a clue. Fox is reporting about Obama. It's exactly what they are supposed to do.
If you have been paying attention recently you would know that some democrats are starting to question Obama's idea;s as well.
Let me guess, you're a member of the Mutts troll group.
March 5, 2009, 1:50:30 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"So Johnny, but you lost the argument."
The only argument I was in was the one where you said "prove me wrong". I did.
March 5, 2009, 1:59:04 PM EST – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
Ashley | 03.05.09 - 1:35 pm | #
Very cool, Ashley!
March 5, 2009, 2:00:23 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Tom | 03.05.09 - 1:52 pm | #
Let's see, Tom says to Johnny "you can't". Then J$ says "I can" and does. Then Tom comes up with an entirely new argument and proclaims victory on his first point.
Yep, he's one of the doggies.
March 5, 2009, 2:01:27 PM EST – Like – Reply
Tom
Sorry, but I asked Johnny to come up with an article which was "pro-Obama" in the first 25 articles listed on Fox Forum.
He didn't. Judith Miller's article is outside those bounds. It's the 27th article.
Which means Johnny has technically lost the argument. He didn't bother checking where Judith Miller's article was. He simply kept clicking "older articles" tab at the bottom until he finally found one which wasn't dripping with venom for Obama.
Too bad Johnny. It was outside the boundary I laid out in my argument.
Hence, you lose.
March 5, 2009, 2:11:45 PM EST – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Yep, he's one of the doggies.
Ashley | 03.05.09 - 2:06 pm | #
Doggies!!! I love it!!!!!!
You think "bitches" would be too much?
March 5, 2009, 2:13:14 PM EST – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
"That made "Glenn Beck" the third most-watched program in all of cable news for the month, after Bill O'Reilly's and Sean Hannity's evening shows."
Just as I predicted. Beck is a hit!
This is huuuuuuuge! :lol:
March 5, 2009, 2:17:26 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Tell the truth, "Tom". At the time you made the challenge it wasn't past 25 (not including CPAC articles), which was your description. I counted. Of course more articles have been added since then so where it is now is irrelevant.
We're not going to bog the thread down with back and forth on a silly argument like this, so we'll move on to other topics.
March 5, 2009, 2:22:29 PM EST – Like – Reply
cee
Poor old Olbermann took Coulter's bait.
What an insecure loser.
I feel a WPITW coming on, with the always used "Pirate Ann" COULTERGEIST graphic tonight.
Perhaps Keith will hold up his sheepskin so that he can prove to his audience he's an elite Ivy Leaguer.
Like that'll make a difference.
March 5, 2009, 3:02:47 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Recap:
Tom makes challenge.
J$ prevails.
Tom moves goal post, declares victory anyway.
Johnny points out to Tom, the error of his ways.
Tom moves goalpost again, apparently lying in the process, then declares victory again.
Have the doggies nothing better to do with themselves?
March 5, 2009, 3:10:32 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
So, is Mr. Czechoslovakia claiming that an Ivy League school has courses on farming?
I bet BOR is glad is has a Masters Degree from Harvard. Oh, and a Masters Degree from Boston University.
March 5, 2009, 3:28:07 PM EST – Like – Reply
cee
BTW, let us not forget Coulter also skewered Olbermann for his chosen major, communications.
I don't mean to insult anyone, but at my college, communications was one of the majors that was not at all challenging.
It is interesting that Olbermann avoided countering Coulter on that line of attack.
Also, Coulter made a very nice seperation of the SAT score differences and acceptance ratios between the two schools....again, Olbermann was silent.
It seems a sheepskin from Cornell may have some differences not notable in ink....poor, poor insecure Keithy!
March 5, 2009, 4:07:11 PM EST – Like – Reply
Grammie
If KO can't face Mark Levin, which he can't, I think he would be wise to quit when he's not too far behind and move on.
The man can't, won't whatever debate anyone, not even Joe the Plumber, and he's going to take on Ann Coulter.
Let me know if Vegas puts out odds. Depending on what thet are I might look into it.
March 5, 2009, 4:10:02 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Newt Gingridge appeared on F&F this morning....I personally thought Carlson was going to wet herself with excitement She called him Newt...Then she said is it alright if I call you Newt...I feel I know you so well. Then at the end she asked Newters to say hi from her to his wife, Callista (or something like that). It's all very cosy isn't it?
I've also noticed that there seems to be an extreme lack of Democrats appearing these days. When and if they appear...I bet Carlson wont be saying hi to their wives.
March 5, 2009, 4:56:51 PM EST – Like – Reply
tony
Tom: What name do you go under at news hounds?
March 5, 2009, 5:05:37 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Anyone know when the Friends are going to issue an apology for being taken in by the beer pong gives you herpes hoax? :lol: Do these folk just trawl the net for the most ridiculous nonsense they can find? Then hope no one catches them at their nonsense spreading. But then again....didn't someone once say that FNC producers always verify the accuracy of the material....Ooooops! caught out once again.
March 5, 2009, 5:16:59 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"She called him Newt.."
My word, no! Alert the media! This is definitely the next Media Matters headine! LOL!
March 5, 2009, 5:19:10 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.05.09 - 5:24 pm |
Come on Johnny....Don't you find it strange that an interviewer is asking their guest to say hi to their wife for them? you'd fall out your hammock if Keith was as familiar with his guests.
March 5, 2009, 5:32:19 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I think it's his guests who'd recoil if that were the case.
March 5, 2009, 5:34:26 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
If KO can't face Mark Levin, which he can't,
Grammie | 03.05.09 - 4:15 pm |
Of course the very same can be said about big man Limbaugh being frightened to appear for a debate on Campbell Brown's show to debate their chief business correspondent, Ali Velshi, who Limbaugh had previously maligned.....He didn't take up the offer....What is it that Bill says about folk who do that?....something about desks and knees isn't it?
March 5, 2009, 5:43:31 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Limbaugh, thanking those who "have come to my defense," thanked Hannity, Van Sustern, and Fox News "in general"
Limbaugh...."I guess I should just thank the network(FNC) in general" for coming to my defence.
Brilliant....When is it the job of a "news" network to defend a Right Wing talk radio host?. Of course they're "fair and balanced" and they will leap to the defence of any Left Wing radio host when they need it. :lol:
March 5, 2009, 5:59:54 PM EST – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
Anyone know when the Friends are going to issue an apology for being taken in by the beer pong gives you herpes hoax?
Why don't you ask ellen?
March 5, 2009, 6:40:59 PM EST – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Brilliant....When is it the job of a "news" network to defend a Right Wing talk radio host?. Of course they're "fair and balanced" and they will leap to the defence of any Left Wing radio host when they need it.
HaggisFarmer | 03.05.09 - 6:04 pm | #
What do you think being "fair and balanced" is but to air Limbaugh explanation of what he meant when he said he wanted Obama to fail?
Limbaugh meant the same thing a liberal meant when they wised failure for Bush's plan to "save" Social Security by privatizing it.
No one on the other networks were playing devil's advocate from Limbaugh's side (while airing the views of guests criticizing Limbaugh), BUT FNC.
Again, this harks back to real problem FNC critics have. They treat conservatives like they're no less important than liberals!
Long before Ted Kennedy was diagnosed with cancer, the media would drool all over him during an appearance. Same with Barney Frank. But Gretchen Carlson treats Gingrich like he's an esteemed guest and its just awful!
The problem isn't when conservatives are treated special, it's when they are treated the same!
March 5, 2009, 6:51:45 PM EST – Like – Reply
Nibbles
HaggisFarmer | 03.05.09 - 6:04 pm |
Thanks Haggis for drawing that to my attention. I always thought FNC were the defenders of the Right but this clearly shows they are. FNC obviously don't want to get on the wrong side of Limbaugh.
March 5, 2009, 7:16:06 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
"Anyone know when the Friends are going to issue an apology for being taken in by the beer pong gives you herpes hoax? "
I find it interesting that Haggis shows absolutely no concern over Olbermann and his minions attacking such a worthwhile organization, but is focused on having someone apologize because they were taken in by a hoax. People who help rape victims being attacked? Who cares, right Haggis?
Perhaps I'm wrong, but it doesn't quite seem right that anyone should have to apologize for being taken in by a hoax. I guess the next thing is that Haggy will be demanding anyone here who believed that Alabama Dem and Chippy and Stan and Spider and Ralph and Al and Joe etc. were actual first-time posters, should apologize.
March 5, 2009, 7:17:27 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Ted Kennedy
Cecelia | 03.05.09 - 6:56 pm |
Cecelia you have to admit it was a great moment when during Gordon Browns speech the other day he announced that Queen Elizabeth had awarded Ted Kennedy a honorary knighthood....Well deserved for all his excellent work.
Nibbles | 03.05.09 - 7:21 pm |
Your right there Nibbles....I wonder who would give the apology if by some incredible occurrence FNC found themselves having to apology to Limbaugh.
"Perhaps I'm wrong, but it doesn't quite seem right that anyone should have to apologize for being taken in by a hoax."
Ashley | 03.05.09 - 7:22 pm |
Hahahaha....You weren't singing that tune when HuffPost posted the hoax video about Gibson....On the contrary....You were outraged.
Who are all these folk? "Spider and Ralph and Al and Joe" I've never heard of them...The others I do know. You seem to be making new names up as you go along.
March 5, 2009, 7:34:29 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
People who help rape victims being attacked? Who cares, right Haggis?
Ashley | 03.05.09 - 7:22 pm |
I'm not sure what your talking about here....But has it anything to do with Bill talking to the Alexa Foundation....If so...it seems very strange that a man who suggested a young female was "asking for it" due to what she was warring....Should now be speaking at such an event.
"She was 5-foot-2, 105 pounds, wearing a miniskirt and a halter top with a bare midriff. Now, again, there you go. So every predator in the world is gonna pick that up at two in the morning. "
March 5, 2009, 7:46:21 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
FNC is absolutely kicking MSNBC and CNN butt in the ratings. Poor Olby his live show can't even beat BOR's rerun!! No wonder Olby is getting so desperate!
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"I always thought FNC were the defenders of the Right but this clearly shows they are. FNC obviously don't want to get on the wrong side of Limbaugh."
Nibbles | 03.05.09 - 7:21 pm | #
Interesting how the left feel that, even if this was true, it's absolutely not acceptable to be a "defender of the right", but they never complain when a network is "clearly" an attacker of the right.
March 5, 2009, 7:50:55 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Where did O'Reilly say she was "asking for it"? I don't want a quote about the wisdom of provocative dress at 2:00 am. I can direct you to rape prevention sites that issue the same warnings to women. I want to know where O'Reilly ever said she was "asking for it".
March 5, 2009, 7:52:29 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
warring=wearing
March 5, 2009, 7:53:41 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
"Hahahaha....You weren't singing that tune when HuffPost posted the hoax video about Gibson....On the contrary....You were outraged. "
And you weren't, you weren't asking for an apology. They were trying to destroy Gibson.
"Who are all these folk? "Spider and Ralph and Al and Joe" I've never heard of them...The others I do know. You seem to be making new names up as you go along."
HaggisFarmer | 03.05.09 - 7:39 pm | #
You were Spider. Ralph Al and Joe are "John Doe's" representing the other false names you have likely posted under, and you know you have!#
March 5, 2009, 7:54:04 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.05.09 - 7:57 pm |
I used "" around asking for it....From what Bill said it seemed to heavily imply she was "asking for it" due to her dress. Johnny don't you think a girl should be able to wear what she wants?
March 5, 2009, 8:00:20 PM EST – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
I find it interesting that Haggis shows absolutely no concern over Olbermann and his minions attacking such a worthwhile organization,
by Ashley
Yes. He immediately popped in and changed the subject to Fox and Friends, his favorite show.
March 5, 2009, 8:04:56 PM EST – Like – Reply
Nibbles
Ashley | 03.05.09 - 7:55 pm |
There is nothing wrong with defending one side or the other occasionally. But FNC only defend the one side and you know what that side is without me telling you. When have they ever leaped to the defence of the left?
March 5, 2009, 8:07:18 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
You were Spider. Ralph Al and Joe are "John Doe's" representing the other false names you have likely posted under, and you know you have!#
Ashley | 03.05.09 - 7:59 pm |
Ashley I don't like saying this....but you're lying....I have never used those names....I openly admit I've used the others.
March 5, 2009, 8:09:11 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
I, too, Haggis would like to know when BOR said the rape victim was "asking for it".
Is this an actual quote or is this just another made up quote by you? Based on your history, I bet it's the latter.
March 5, 2009, 8:12:29 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Yes Haggis you used ""s around it, as you did in the following sentence. Are you now admitting that O'Reilly did NOT say she was asking for it? I just want this to be clear.
"don't you think a girl should be able to wear what she wants?"
Yes. And a girl should be able to hitchhike if she wants. And you can leave your car in front of your house with the keys in it and the engine running if you want. Should something bad result from any of those decisions, the wrongdoer is still the one responsible. Does that mean it's wrong to tell girls "don't hitchhike"? Or wrong to tell Haggis "stop leaving the engine running, someone's gonna steal your car"?
I'll bet I've had more experience with rape cases and assaults on women than everyone else on this thread combined. No brag, just fact. Perhaps when you experience first-hand what people have gone thru you have a better perspective on the importance of not making things easy for a predator, and the ugly results that can occur if you do.
March 5, 2009, 8:12:46 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.05.09 - 8:17 pm |
I understand you were/are a lawyer and have probably seen many cases of rape....But don't tell me I know nothing about rape....My girlfriend back in the 90s got rasped....So I know plenty about it.
March 5, 2009, 8:19:38 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"But don't tell me I know nothing about rape"
Care to point out where I said that?
March 5, 2009, 8:22:05 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Ashley I don't like saying this....but you're lying....I have never used those names....I openly admit I've used the others.
HaggisFarmer | 03.05.09 - 8:14 pm | #
You have used Spider, you used it once and it was back months ago. When I did my analysis that showed AD, Chippy, and Haggy were all the same, Spider was included. You just forgot about it.
No, you never used Ralph, Joe as I just said in the earlier post. But you have used countless other names here, so don't get indignant if you get accused of being "Joe". I am also not the one who attempted to manipulate Johnny by going through the anonymous IP thing, that was you.
March 5, 2009, 8:22:22 PM EST – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Ted Kennedy
Cecelia | 03.05.09 - 6:56 pm |
Cecelia you have to admit it was a great moment when during Gordon Browns speech the other day he announced that Queen Elizabeth had awarded Ted Kennedy a honorary knighthood....Well deserved for all his excellent work.
----------------------------------------
Well, I know you mean this to be a dig, but you'll be disappointed to know that I'm very happy for Sen. Kennedy. It's a great honor and one that he deserves.
I wish him all the best.
March 5, 2009, 8:26:27 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.05.09 - 8:27 pm |
I apologies....You didn't actually say that....I just saw red when I read your post....But believe me I sadly know plenty as to what a woman goes through after being raped
March 5, 2009, 8:31:32 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
MSNBC in its wisdom put up the Chyron that said (I am paraphrasing here) "How many houses will she bring in to the McCain Campaign" as a slam against McCain for being unsure at the time of the number of houses he and his wife owned.
Ashley | 03.05.09 - 1:35 pm | #
Ashley, weren't you around when Patrick renamed himself "Fox News Fixed My House" or something of the sort?
It was directly related to MSNBC's snarky chyron about McCain's houses.
March 5, 2009, 8:35:33 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Regarding Haggis claiming he was not Spider. Here's the actual post from Spider:
Nice reporting Carl...You have confirmed my suspicions about Palin completely.
Fox are obviously taking sever heat from the Right Wingers over this excellent reporting...So Fox are now back peddling franticly....Things can't get any better than this...1st Obama gets elected...Then Fox falls out with the Right...I'm in heaven.
Spider | 11.10.08 - 6:40 pm | #
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- Note "...",
- Not the multiple misspellings
- Note the verb conjugation ""Fox are now",
all Haggy's trademarks. I'll leave it up to the viewers to decide if I am lying about Haggy being Spider. I report, they decide.
By the way, if anyone goes back to that same day, there's another poster named "Ben Dacatt" who seems awfully familiar to Spider.
March 5, 2009, 8:40:33 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Cecelia | 03.05.09 - 8:31 pm |
Cecelia....Believe it or not....not everything I say is a dig.
March 5, 2009, 8:43:37 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
But believe me I sadly know plenty as to what a woman goes through after being raped
HaggisFarmer | 03.05.09 - 8:36 pm | #
I am deeply sorry for your friend, and I'm deeply sorry for you. As a husband with a wife and three daughters I love more than anything, rape is not something I treat lightly.
I completely agree with you on the point - a girl should be able to wear what she wants. Absolutely, a girl should be able to wear what she wants without being attacked. Likewise, a child should be able to play in their front yard without being abducted. A child should be able to exist without being abducted. A man should be able to walk down the street without being mugged or beaten.
I am very much NOT a blame the victim type of person. But I must ask you Haggis, is even saying that a woman should not be dressed provacatively and walk down the street in the middle of the night alone like that.....such an evil thing that KO and his goons should be attacking BOR and that organization over it?
March 5, 2009, 8:48:30 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Ashley, weren't you around when Patrick renamed himself "Fox News Fixed My House" or something of the sort?
It was directly related to MSNBC's snarky chyron about McCain's houses.
Fox Fan | Homepage | 03.05.09 - 8:40 pm | #
Actually FF, I have to boast on this. I started calling him Fox News Fixed My House when he was posting back and forth as "Fox News is Fixed" and "I know how many houses I own". It was a simple of merging the two. The L'il feller didn't like it much.
March 5, 2009, 8:53:00 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Johnny - I apologize to you. I was just catching up on some of the other posts, I noticed your response to Haggis that was very similar to the one I just submitted. I did not intend to copy you.
March 5, 2009, 8:55:06 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Ashley | 03.05.09 - 8:45 pm |
Ashley...That wasn't me....it must have been someone trying to make it look like me...if it had been me I'd admit it.
"Ben Dacatt" is not me either.
March 5, 2009, 8:55:23 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
But FNC only defend the one side and you know what that side is without me telling you. When have they ever leaped to the defence of the left?
Nibbles | 03.05.09 - 8:12 pm | #
BOR defending John Kerry against the Swiftboaters comes to mind right away. Countless Countless others, if you actually watched FNC instead of letting NH do your thinking for you, you would know that.
"defence"
"FNC only defend the"
Hmmmmmmmm.
March 5, 2009, 8:59:23 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Ashley...That wasn't me....it must have been someone trying to make it look like me...if it had been me I'd admit it.
HaggisFarmer | 03.05.09 - 9:00 pm | #
How likely is that considering you had been gone for months and reappeared as Alabama Dem a few days later?
March 5, 2009, 9:01:34 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Ashley | 03.05.09 - 8:53 pm |
Thank you Ashley I appreciate your post....it was a terrible time and she still hasn't got completely over it all these years latter.
I know what Bill was meaning....but the way he said it just came across as blame the victim....If he could say it again he probably would phrase it a lot differently.
March 5, 2009, 9:06:03 PM EST – Like – Reply
Nibbles
Hmmmmmmmm.
Ashley | 03.05.09 - 9:04 pm |
What does that mean?
I also don't know what you mean by "letting NH do your thinking for you" what is NH?
March 5, 2009, 9:13:07 PM EST – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Ashley | 03.05.09 - 8:58 pm | #
I thought you were the one who coined the name and I remember it was during discussions on MSNBC and the houses. I'm surprised you didn't remember that when you heard Bernie talk about it!
I still laugh about Patrick when he admitted under some other name "I AM the dreaded Patrick!" :lol: More dredged than dreaded...
March 5, 2009, 9:22:18 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Ashley | 03.05.09 - 9:06 pm |
I have no idea how likely that is...I used AD 1st and when I realised I couldn't speak the Alabama lingo....I smartly regrouped under the Chippy alias....But I never used the name Spider.
March 5, 2009, 9:38:46 PM EST – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
I apologies....You didn't actually say that....I just saw red when I read your post....But believe me I sadly know plenty as to what a woman goes through after being raped
HaggisFarmer | 03.05.09 - 8:36 pm | #
Nice reporting Carl...You have confirmed my suspicions about Palin completely.
Fox are obviously taking sever heat from the Right Wingers over this excellent reporting...So Fox are now back peddling franticly....Things can't get any better than this...1st Obama gets elected...Then Fox falls out with the Right...I'm in heaven.
Spider | 11.10.08 - 6:40 pm | #
Nice catch, Ashley!
March 5, 2009, 9:43:00 PM EST – Like – Reply
HaggisFarmer
Ashley | 03.05.09 - 9:06 pm |
This is just a thought.....But OS probably wrote that post....We all know how he likes to go undercover....And doesn't want to blow his cover by admitting it.
March 5, 2009, 9:56:38 PM EST – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
You're nailed, again, hagster.
March 5, 2009, 10:07:26 PM EST – Like – Reply
Grammie
Haggis, as you may have noticed I very rarely engage and never in a comradely fashion. To tell the truth that is b/c you have lied and cheated here many times and when uncovered make little gosh, golly shuffling feet little boy noises and claim that you were just funning. For me, that makes you even more reprehensible.
So, how I feel about you is up front. I hope you will answer my questions honestly b/c this campaign to hang BOR through the Alexa Foundation is very serious business for them and the victims they help.
Have you ever heard or read a transcript of the show from which you quote?
If not how can you pile on this innocent charity w/o doing your due diligence to make your own judgment.
BTW, the infp is out there if you want it.
March 5, 2009, 10:29:01 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
"I AM the dreaded Patrick!"
Fox Fan | Homepage | 03.05.09 - 9:27 pm | #
That was hilarious when he let that one fly. The l'il feller actually believes we're afraid of him and that night, he actually believed he was somehow defeating us in an argument.
When he said the "dreaded" line, it went over here as big as the "one MILLION dollars" line from Dr. Evil the Austin Powers movie.
March 5, 2009, 10:35:33 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
I know what Bill was meaning....but the way he said it just came across as blame the victim....If he could say it again he probably would phrase it a lot differently.
HaggisFarmer | 03.05.09 - 9:11 pm | #
Fine Haggis, but I repeat...is even saying that a woman should not be dressed provacatively and walk down the street in the middle of the night alone like that.....such an evil thing that KO and his goons should be attacking BOR and that organization over it?
March 5, 2009, 10:39:16 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Hahahaha....You weren't singing that tune when HuffPost posted the hoax video about Gibson....On the contrary....You were outraged.
HaggisFarmer | 03.05.09 - 7:39 pm | #
Please show me the post you base this on. I was "outraged"?
March 5, 2009, 10:46:28 PM EST – Like – Reply
vstol
Where did O'Reilly say she was "asking for it"? -JWhere did O'Reilly say she was "asking for it"? -J$ No less authority than Mr. Keith Olbermann of MSNBC, said tonight, "Bill O'Reilly now dragging a prominent victim's rights advocate down with him as the date for his 'blame the rape victim speech' looms." and later, the more damning "...O'Reilly, who once blamed a dead New Jersey rape victim for her own brutal end." Not even the deplorable LowBlo KO accuses O'Reilly of saying "she was asking for it."nbsp;
No less authority than Mr. Keith Olbermann of MSNBC, said tonight, "Bill O'Reilly now dragging a prominent victim's rights advocate down with him as the date for his 'blame the rape victim speech' looms." and later, the more damning "...O'Reilly, who once blamed a dead New Jersey rape victim for her own brutal end."
Not even the deplorable LowBlo KO accuses O'Reilly of saying "she was asking for it."
March 5, 2009, 11:08:53 PM EST – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Is Olbermann that stupid? O'Reilly is dragging Wendy Murphy into this. Wendy Murphy was Alexa's lawyer. What's more, she's on the advisory board of the Alexa Foundation. She probably's the one who asked O'Reilly to speak!
No Olby isn't that stupid. He's just that twisted. He doesn't care if it's true or not.
March 5, 2009, 11:12:08 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
Give it until say Thursday...And Gibson will have managed to wangle Keith as the chief instigator of the whole affair.
Haggis | 02.23.09 - 4:35 pm | #
Haggy, Thursday is long passed. What say you?
March 5, 2009, 11:13:57 PM EST – Like – Reply
Ashley
and perhaps Haggy should be reminded that J$ saved his bacon too by not allowing a Haggis post, which perpetuated the Gibson false smear, to appear on J$P.
Ashley | 02.23.09 - 4:32 pm | #
Earlier in this thread, Haggis believes that an apology is required from the Friends because they allegedly fell for a hoax and reported it. My 2/23 post reminds me that Haggis fell for the Gibson Hoax and he reported it. We didn't see it because J$ moderated the post. So, here we have Haggy caught having done exactly what he blames the Friends for. He insists on the Friends apologizing, but there was never an apology from him. Also, did he ever thank J$??????
March 5, 2009, 11:18:35 PM EST – Like – Reply
Grammie
I thought I had seen it somewhere. Since there is no attribution I suspect this came from Alex:
"It may be a case of "who you know". Sitting on the advisory board of the Foundation is one Wendy Murphy, who has frequently appeared on the Factor and appears to be somewhat of a buddy of O'Reilly's (O'Reilly wrote the foreword to Murphy's book And Justice for Some, and snide comments have been made about her "sleeping on a cot in his office"). Murphy is O'Reilly's partner-in-crime when it comes to blaming those eeevul liberals for the ills of the world, claiming, for instance, that the ACLU "don't want any laws on the books...that make it a crime for a child to be abused by an adult" and that the "liberal media" often neglect to cover criminal cases involving sexual predators because " classic liberal left ideology is anti-state, anti-prosecution. It's always bad to lock somebody up. Punishment is bad." (Following that there is a huge sucking noise as she tells Bildo, "And you really are the only one in the media stepping up to the plate." Ewwwww.) "
This is the next sentence in the same comment.
"Whatever the reason the IHTAF have decided to stand over their decision, it can only harm their public image and support if the comments on a petition by Concerned Citizens Against Sexual Violence asking the foundation to replace O'Reilly as guest speaker are anything to go by. A sample:"
I googled Concerned Citizens Against Sexual Violence. There are seven entries, the first for the kennel, and the rest devoted to hyping the petition from mostly MSBS/KO groups.
Those dogs sure do move fast. Why tthey created out of thin air a very impressive sounding non entity.
March 5, 2009, 11:43:48 PM EST – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
This is where haggy and "news"hounds are getting their "facts." Nuff said.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200608040004
March 5, 2009, 11:56:44 PM EST – Like – Reply
vstol
Not even the deplorable LowBlo KO accuses O'Reilly of saying "she was asking for it."
vstol | 03.05.09 - 11:13 pm | #
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I was mistaken.
From the horse's uhhhh mouth, "...he (O'Reilly) described on TV what she was wearing as if 'she'd asked for it'....radio, excuse me."
No KO, I don't think I will.
March 6, 2009, 1:21:39 AM EST – Like – Reply
RF
"There is utterly no purpose to these lame "gotchas," except that Olbermann is so desperately insecure that he is willing to waste valuable airtime in order to convince other status-conscious idiots that he is, like, scary-smart." - Ann Coulter
I know J$, and all the FoxFans wanted to hear Ann Coulter tell the truth about KO.
Re: His reason for breathing.
J$ keep up the great work!
March 6, 2009, 1:21:55 AM EST – Like – Reply
cee
I posted on OW when this thing started that Wendy Murphy, Alexa's lawyer, had posted on the foundation site her relationship and positive opinion of victim advocate, Bill O'Reilly and that should help in refuttting Olbermann's vile attack. I am sure Ms. Murhpy's bio with the O'Reilly's reference has been there for months.
It looks like Olbermann is lying yet again....With no facts to show "O'Reilly is dragging Wendy Murphy" into the situation, Olbermann is once again sinking to new lows.
Anyone who supports Olbermann attacking a good organization, and good people like Ms. Murphy, is as pathetic as him!
March 6, 2009, 9:18:06 AM EST – Like – Reply
