Thursday Links and Open Thread
Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:
Greta defends her husband.
Wednesday's numbers: FNC sweep!
Juliet Huddy co-hosts Fox & Friends Friday!
Maxim: Biz Babes.
Profile: Cheryl Casone.
Shuster's empty Rove taunts.
Greta's new set.
Ailes's date with Courtney.
Hotline after dark.
Video: Donahue with Hannity, Olbermann with Leno.
Coop attracts dozens. Vote: Robach v Coop.
Post your cable news comments in today's open thread. Standard rules apply. foxnews cable
Olby Sucks
Donahue pulled his usual "strawman of many faces" argument. Did Hannity actually think he could get Phil to say he didn't like Obama? :lol:
March 19, 2009, 1:55:54 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Phil Donahue seems like he is always cryng. His fake outrage is over the top.
March 19, 2009, 8:25:56 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Wenchie
Megyn takes on ACORN....Fight!
March 19, 2009, 9:46:04 AM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
Andy Levy jokes about David Frum....Mr. Frum's "routine" is very interesting.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Yd0Krz3q9k
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If Mr. Frum is not the NYT's house conservative, who is?
March 19, 2009, 10:24:34 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
That Glen Beck video is an eyepopper! I can't believe that the story is not being covered heavily in the MSM.
I can just imagine the coverage if GWB had done it considering that the blue blogs were full of speculation that troops were being called home to prevent the presidential election or to prevent the transfer of power. All the teeth gnashing about the fascist toltarian cabal that was the GWB admin.
Here we have an extraordinary action of actualyy sending a military unit to a small town and we barely have any details about who, why and what.
Who sent/requested them?
Why? Was it law enforcement or to quell a riot or just to try it and see what hapenned?
What did the military do while in the small town and how did they do it?
Surely this merits a strong spotlight on it!
March 19, 2009, 10:33:20 AM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
@ 3:26.......
Leno: "Can I ask a stupid question? It's called American Insurance Group....?'"
Olbermann, "I believe that's it, yes."
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What a smart, well informed fella NBC NEWS has there as a very well paid anchor! And so physically fit too...(Do the Fruit-of-the-Loom guys need a pear?)....
AIG is short for American International Group.
"RESIGN!"
March 19, 2009, 10:51:11 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Grammie, I agree with you. This was the most surprising, and potentially important, segment I saw on cable news yesterday. But no one seems to think it's worth covering. I'm not a big fan of martial law!
March 19, 2009, 11:45:02 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
J$ - If I can add to your response to Grammie, there are two problems I see with the military going into Alabama story.
1 - no one seems to care that it happened.
2 - no one seems to care that no one seems to know who sent the troops in.
Meanwhile, our President (and CinC) is focused on March Madness and going to the Tonight Show to thank NBC for their support.
March 19, 2009, 11:53:34 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Meanwhile, our President (and CinC) is focused on March Madness and going to the Tonight Show to thank NBC for their support.
Ashley | 03.19.09 - 11:58 am | #
Perhaps the president is mult-tasking.
He might also be delivering the GE TARP check...
March 19, 2009, 12:25:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
OK, back to cable news. Sincerely, your killjoy moderator.
March 19, 2009, 12:27:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Speaking of cable news! How about Olbermann, are there any bonuses in his future?
March 19, 2009, 1:03:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
How many Olbermann Lies, and how much Olbypocrisy and slovenly political hackery do you guys think occurred during that interview?
I recorded "The Late Show" instead. So, I saw Craig Ferguson (appearing as a guest) and Ginnifer Goodwin instead of Keith.
March 19, 2009, 1:43:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Johnny what happened to my post? It was cable news related....Ingrahm was talking about the subject matter on last night's Factor.
March 19, 2009, 1:58:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
Did we finally see some honesty from olbermann?
"When I do it, it's not bad, but, when they do it, it's bad." KO
March 19, 2009, 2:19:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
Olbermann w/Leno:
Leno asked serious questions, KO responded with punch lines and calls for prosecutions.
The best example of selective outrage and Olbermann's role as an Obama Protecter was when Leno brought up the issue of money going to foreign banks. Leno's "Why did we have to bailout a German bank?" question brought the loudest round of applause from the studio audience.
KO attempted to make another joke, this time about "The spokesman for the Financial Ministy of Germany" having the same name as Keith, then totally ignores the question and reverts to the talking points, with the full finger jabbing for effect, "...but the AIG thing is particularly great because the group that screwed the company into the ground, these guys...are getting the bonuses, they're getting a million dollars each or more...."
Let's recap: Keith, the late-night talk show, unfunny lefty version of George Gobel blocks any Obama administration and congressional democrats responsibility for anything and steers all criticism back to the evil AIG executive bonuses, when the Obama administration and congressional democrats fully protected and insured those bonuses would be paid using language inserted very late into the stimulus bill, while adding a bonus to the attack on bonuses by (select 1, 2, or all from the following) exaggerating/misrepresenting/lying about the amounts of the individual bonuses.
March 19, 2009, 2:29:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Haggis, your msg didn't go thru (twice) because it had zero cable news content. If you want to make a point about some cable news issue, then make it. Just because something is covered on cable news doesn't make it a cable news topic. Otherwise everything would be on topic.
March 19, 2009, 2:33:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
That answered my question, vstol. Thanks. Can you repeat that at OlbyWatch?
March 19, 2009, 2:57:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
Mike-
You go ahead and c&p it at OW. I don't want to "blow my cover."
March 19, 2009, 3:19:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Watching Ingraham blatantly lie to her viewers last night was the final straw...During her talking points tirade she said this "Let the record show: I never called Meghan McCain fat!" I suppose she thinks everyone has forgotten what she said on radio only days ago...."...I realized that, well, they don't like plus-sized. models"....I'd be surprised if anyone here popped their heads above the parapet to defend her on this little cracker.
March 19, 2009, 3:24:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Taken care of, vstol.
Re: "Greta's new set" (and by extension, the D.C. bureau's new main set): It looks great! And Greta admitted on last night's Greta Live Wire webcast that there'll be new music (or at least modified music) debuting in a week or two.
March 19, 2009, 3:35:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Lakeview Greg
Cute Greta set. How much input did hubby have?
And why use a name from a CBS radio show?
March 19, 2009, 3:36:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
I'd be surprised if anyone here popped their heads above the parapet to defend her on this little cracker.
Haggis | 03.19.09 - 3:29 pm | #
Nothing to defend her about as she never called McCain fat. You may think she did, just as you wrongly thought you heard BOR call Obama a pinhead.
March 19, 2009, 3:54:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley | 03.19.09 - 3:59 pm |
Ashley...What meaning would you give to the term "plus-sized"
BOR call Obama a pinhead.
I still laugh at BOR calling a Peach cobbler a pinhead :lol:
March 19, 2009, 4:11:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Interesting. Bret Baier actually gained viewers over Beck and finished #2 behind O'Reilly (i.e. Laura Ingraham).
March 19, 2009, 4:34:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
Haggis' latest is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to divert the thread away from Donahue/Hannity, the Beck video, and most importantly, the Olbermann performance on Leno, by starting an argument about quotes and semantics that would eventually lead to far off worlds.
(the above is an example of 'single sentence summation')
March 19, 2009, 4:37:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Once again, Haggis gets it wrong.
BOR did not call a peach cobbler a pinhead. Your analysis is quite extremely wrong.
Why don't you provide the exact quote from Laura where she allegedly says that McCain is fat.
I heard her quite clearly last night say "she (McCain) is not fat"
March 19, 2009, 4:37:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
Talking about fat.....
Olbermann was visably short of breath through the entire segment.
He better watch it.
Also, his rolls can be seen, even with his suit jacket on.
He has really let himself go.
Times must be good for our Manhattan leftist. He's been eating out waaay too much.
March 19, 2009, 4:37:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.19.09 - 4:39 pm | #
Baier is doing a tremendous job. I think that Beck has brought in more viewers, and more of those are staying on FNC to watch Baier.
March 19, 2009, 4:38:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Kirk G
Mr $,
When is Huddy co-hosting?
March 19, 2009, 4:45:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
I still laugh at BOR calling a Peach cobbler a pinhead
Haggis | 03.19.09 - 4:16 pm | #
This is an interesting statement. Haggy, you say "Still". For days after that particular Pinheads and Patriots segment, you were insisting that BOR called Obama a pinhead. Now you are claiming that BOR called a peach cobbler a pinhead. When (and why) did you change your mind on this one?
March 19, 2009, 4:47:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Juliet Huddy co-hosts F&F Friday, i.e. tomorrow. Enjoy!
March 19, 2009, 4:49:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley | 03.19.09 - 4:42 pm |
Ooh you and I both know who BOR was calling a pinhead....and it wasn't the cobbler
"I heard her quite clearly last night say "she (McCain) is not fat""
You need to listen to what she said on her radio show to understand why the statement she made last night is untrue.
Once again I ask you....What meaning would you give to the term "plus-sized?" Just answer that simple question and we'll know where we stand.
cee | 03.19.09 - 4:42 pm |
Funny you should say that...But I was watching Beck the other night...and let me tell you that chin is really starting to sag....Also his eyes are very bloodshot...Not a good sign.
March 19, 2009, 4:55:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Penn Gillette appearing on Beck today? Excellent!
March 19, 2009, 5:01:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Nibbles
Haggis | 03.19.09 - 3:29 pm |
Haggis, you quite right about the blatant untruth issued by Ingraham last night. There is only one meaning someone is trying to get across when they use the term plus sized. But as you said in yesterdays posts, the wagons are circling. I missed last night show due to watching some brilliant comedy on HBO but caught up with things thanks to an informative post over on C&L.
March 19, 2009, 5:05:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
C'mon Haggis, once again you are ducking and dodging on the BOR comment.
BTW - I know exactly what Laura I said and the context in which she said it. I've heard the audio several times.
The reason you refuse to provide a quote in order to prove your point and back up your claim is because she didn't say it.
Plus sized means "larger", not fat.
BTW - and for you to even whine about this is ridiculous. You could care less that McCain was insulted. You've made specific insults against women on this site, in particular Ann Coulter insinuating that she is really a man. For you to whine now is sheer hypocrisy.
March 19, 2009, 5:09:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Just answer that simple question and we'll know where we stand.
Haggis | 03.19.09 - 5:00 pm | #
For the record Haggis, I did. You, however, regularly avoid answering simple questions. You even making the above demand is more sheer hypocrisy.
March 19, 2009, 5:12:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Haggis aka nibbles.
If you really believe that plus size must mean fat, then you must therefore believe that the following plus sized model is fat.
http://www.nypost.com/tv/galleries/05152008_top_model/photo01.htm
March 19, 2009, 5:21:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
"in particular Ann Coulter insinuating that she is really a man."
I've never said she's really a man...Please post your proof of this claim....I've said she has a large apple...which is just fact.
noun
1. an extra-large size category of clothing, esp. for women.
Someone who need extra-large sized clothing is generally referred to as fat...This is exactly the meaning Ingrahm was trying to covey. Ashley you driving around the houses on this one....You'll start to tell me I'm lying shortly...A sure sign of your imminent defeat.
March 19, 2009, 5:32:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Haggis | 03.19.09 - 5:37 pm | #
Haggis - it's just said that you believe that the women in that photo is fat.
Are you actually denying that you insinuated that Ann Coulter is a man?
March 19, 2009, 5:37:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Someone who need extra-large sized clothing is generally referred to as fat...
Haggis | 03.19.09 - 5:37 pm | #
Translation - Generally, but not always.
March 19, 2009, 5:44:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Nibbles
Did anyone see Bill chastising ABC(GMA) for going up to Alaska and interviewing Levi Johnston the other night? The hypocrisy just started oozing out of every orifice of his body when he claimed they ambushed young Levi. Bill even managed to keep a straight face while talking about ambushing folk.
March 19, 2009, 5:49:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Translation - Generally, but not always.
Ashley | 03.19.09 - 5:49 pm |
So where would you say the cut off line is for being fat or not?
March 19, 2009, 5:51:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
I'm waiting for another apology from Big Momma Ellen and her pups over the Great/huband/Palin issue.
Is that crickets I hear?
They probably won't eve mention it since they have once again been outed as liars and distortionists.
There is a God.
March 19, 2009, 6:00:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Will Right winger Larry Kudlow (CNBC) face disciplinary action over his lighting of a dollar bill live on CNBC today? This is an illegal action....Not only could he be disciplined by CNBC but he could serve up to 6 months in jail for his actions.
See I don't always go after Fox.
March 19, 2009, 6:00:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
"Special Report" debuts in the new set...but remains in SD!!! :-:
March 19, 2009, 6:01:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
Fat, obese, plus-sized......
A woman with a large adam's apple, a transexual, an hermaphrodite.......
Liar, exaggerater, embelsher.....
Why can't we all just get along?
March 19, 2009, 6:04:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"See I don't always go after Fox."
No, but you are a faithful repeater of Media Matters!
March 19, 2009, 6:31:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
So where would you say the cut off line is for being fat or not?
Haggis | 03.19.09 - 5:56 pm | #
I have no idea. But, based on your comments, you seem to think that anyone plus sized is fat.
When I heard the plus sized comment, I did not think fat. You did.
Simple question for you, let's see if you can answer it.
Ingraham said "plus sized", the claim is that Ingraham said MM is fat. OK, that photo I linked to above is a plus sized model. Is she fat? You've avoided that issue.
Perhaps Laura should have said "full-figured", perhaps you would make that happy.
March 19, 2009, 6:47:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Haggis | 03.19.09 - 6:05 pm | #
That would be a matter for the Obama justice department. Perhaps you should ask them.
March 19, 2009, 6:49:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
By the way Haggy - some time ago you were defending Obama's thoughtless decision to give PM Brown a bunch of DVD's instead of something like the nice gift he received from Brown. You claimed that there was no problem because the UK had multi-region DVD players. Perhaps the UK does, but Gordon Brown does not. Isn't it a shame that not even the least bit of thought went into selecting this "gift"?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mandrake/5011941/Gordon-Brown-is-frustrated-by-Psycho-in-No-10.html
March 19, 2009, 6:56:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Greta defends her husband.
Looks like Greta is feeling the heat over this blatant conflict of interest...It'll be interesting to see if she cuts back on her Palin gushing for the time being. Reading some of the replies over at her blog you can only conclude that some of her fans arn't happy.
Here's a flavour of what's being said:
"I think the criticism is that On the Record has become fan club number 1 to the Palin family (because you are constantly reporting on them), and now with this news it gives the perception that you have a vested interested (either politically, or monetarily) in seeing Palin succeed.
While the criticism may be untrue, it isnt out of line or far-fetched either."
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.19.09 - 6:36 pm |
MediaMatters is a top-notch site...that does invaluable work....But I strayed over to TP for the Kudlow story.
March 19, 2009, 6:56:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Ashley to give that Haggis comment the cable news context it had at the time, he was attacking (surprise!) Fox & Friends for reporting the story. Just so we don't go off on a political tangent. It appears F&F was correct all along.
March 19, 2009, 6:59:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Seeing the outrage from Haggis and his side of the political spectrum over what they perceive was an insult over the physical appearance of MM, it is my hope that the left has recognized the error of their ways regarding their previous insults against Linda Tripp, Paula Jones, Kathleen Harris, Sarah Palin, Barbara Bush, Ann Coulter and others for their respective physical appearance.
March 19, 2009, 7:02:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley | 03.19.09 - 7:01 pm |
Aaah the trust Telegraph...The bastion of the Right Wing here in the UK...Gordon just has to pop the DVD into a DVD drive on his PC and he's off.
Also a multi region DVD player is around $40-$60 bot out of Gordon's reach.
March 19, 2009, 7:04:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Well let's keep it focused on the cable news domain. Here's a nice compendium of insults for Haggis to get all outraged over:
http://tinyurl.com/ctlb6b
March 19, 2009, 7:05:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Aaah the trust Telegraph...The bastion of the Right Wing here in the UK...Gordon just has to pop the DVD into a DVD drive on his PC and he's off.
Also a multi region DVD player is around $40-$60 bot out of Gordon's reach.
Haggis | 03.19.09 - 7:09 pm | #
Nice how you throw in the Right wing comment as if to minimize the accuracy of the reporting.
Simple question for Haggis:
Is the paper lying?
But I have to laugh, you are actually suggesting that PM Brown should have spent money to enjoy his "gift".
Some gift.
But Haggis, at least you can do is admit that F&F was correct all along as J$ said.
March 19, 2009, 7:14:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
J$ - that list is amazing. Apparently, KO has been extremely insulting to many women. Not only about their looks, but their brains.
Where is the outrage from the same people complaining about Ingraham? All I hear is crickets.
March 19, 2009, 7:19:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Are those the world-famous Scottish bog crickets? Well known for swarming around electric satellite dishes?
March 19, 2009, 7:20:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Haggis - I can't help but notice that you refuse to tell us if the woman identified as a plus sized model is fat.
I think all women are beautiful and I don't think that calling someone plus-sized is an insult. It's a shame that you apparently don't.
March 19, 2009, 7:21:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.19.09 - 7:10 pm |
Excellent list drawn up there by the Olbermann Watch Research Division...chuckle Chuckle. But I need hard facts before becoming outraged....Dates/time/places/videos/links....Anyone could draw up a list like that...The laugh is all those points fit Bill to a T. get out of that one.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.19.09 - 7:04 pm | #
The Friends made a statement....The DVDs would not work in the UK....But as we've come to expect from the Friends....Their statements fall flat at the slightest scrutiny.
Ashley....I don't think the girl in the picture that you posted is anything like plus-sized....More lightly just incompetence by the NYP picture editor.
March 19, 2009, 7:21:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
johnny dollar | Homepage | 03.19.09 - 7:25 pm | #
Yes, in fact they swarm only the electric satellite dishes, not the regular ones!
I could be wrong about this, but I think those world famous Scottish bog crickets particularly enjoy those electric satellite dishes used in flats where one mate (friend) lets the other mate (who is getting a divorce and has just returned from a work assignment in Alabama, United States) stay in his flat while he goes off on adventure to Australia.
March 19, 2009, 7:25:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Nice how you throw in the Right wing comment as if to minimize the accuracy of the reporting.
Ashley | 03.19.09 - 7:19 pm |
LMAO...Bernard Goldberg only the other night on the Factor said this...He didn't like the definition Bill gave him for a word from a dictionary....
"O'Reilly, playing the voice of balance, pointed out that his dictionary referred to it as, "often disparaging and offensive."
Goldberg's answer? "Forgive my arrogance. The dictionary is written by some liberal person." Desperation or what :lol:
Also it appears to me the Right blame the "vast left wing media" for absolutely anything and everything.
March 19, 2009, 7:33:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley | 03.19.09 - 7:24 pm |
My post in reply to this lists appears to have come up against the censors.
March 19, 2009, 7:34:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley | 03.19.09 - 7:26 pm |
You might not think it an insult....But believe me the vast majority of woman would take it as an insult....Maybe you've never noticed but women are very sensitive around weight.
March 19, 2009, 7:39:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Ashley....I don't think the girl in the picture that you posted is anything like plus-sized....More lightly just incompetence by the NYP picture editor.
Haggis | 03.19.09 - 7:26 pm | #
Haggis - once again, your analysis is completely wrong.
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4873965&page=1
You neglected to answer my other question. Would you be happy if Ingraham said "full-figured" instead of plus sized?
March 19, 2009, 7:40:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
"Scottish bog crickets"
What are these creatures your both talking about?
I think what your actually meaning is the Scottish midge...a devilish wee creature.
March 19, 2009, 7:44:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Haggis | 03.19.09 - 7:38 pm | #
BTW - I met Bernard Goldberg about two weeks ago. When I called him Mr. Goldberg, he said "Call me Bernie". Since he is such a nice guy, I bet he would want to you to call him the same.
But frankly, as a media expert, he is far more closer to knowing the truth than you.
Perhaps the right does blame everything on the "left wing media", but you certainly blame everything on Fox. With the exception of that little jab today against Kudlow, you never criticize CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, etc. What you accuse the right of doing appears to be exactly what you do.
March 19, 2009, 7:44:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Haggis | 03.19.09 - 7:39 pm | #
It seems to me that anything you have to say now about the left wing insults against women is a moot point.
The issue is really about what has come from the left in the past. And that my dear Haggis is where the crickets come in. The left has clearly gone on with insults against women because of their appearance, I sure would love to see ONE comment made by you previously, criticizing the comments made by the left.
Oh, and regarding Ann Coulter? Your comment about her "apple" and how it insinuates she is a man applies to Keithys use of the word (see Johnny's link). I've seen Ann, up close, standing next to her. She's quite pretty and that "apple" as you like to talk about, is nothing like the left wing nuts claim.
March 19, 2009, 7:50:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
and that "apple" as you like to talk about, is nothing like the left wing nuts claim.
Ashley | 03.19.09 - 7:55 pm | #
But you felt you had to look!....You also made me choke on my bacon butty with laughter after reading that.
March 19, 2009, 8:05:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Uh Oh, I think I can hear the screams now. On "The Factor", Laura Ingraham is interviewing an author about his book. She referred to the book as "The Fat Tail". Dear God, it's gonna start up all over again!!!!!
Of course the book title is "The Fat Tail", but will it matter?????
March 19, 2009, 8:12:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
"This programme is brought to you by waste management"....What an appropriate sponsor for The Factor...Maybe waste management might think about tipping the factor into the back of that nice green dustbin lorry. Only a thought.
March 19, 2009, 8:14:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
I think all women are beautiful and I don't think that calling someone plus-sized is an insult. It's a shame that you apparently don't.
Ashley | 03.19.09 - 7:26 pm | #
Ashley, you're a dear and a typical male in that your definition of what looks good is a bit curvier than what women think looks good.
However there is no woman in the world who would find it flattering or even innocuous to be termed "plus-sized". Even in cases where it's an extremely diplomatic description.
I think Laura argues that she was mocking McCain's own vapid blog chatter about her weight battles, etc.
I think Megan is a very pretty young girl and that sort of breathless personal chit-chat goes with the age group.
Ingraham's point is that no one would give a fig about the trite political musing, peppered with girlish chatter blog-talk, of a 22-year-old, if Megan McCain hadn't been dissing Republicans (and Anne Coulter) in a way that is music to the media's ears.
Laura engaged in Meganspeak about politics and weight battles (and Megan accent) in order to make that point.
Let me add again, Ashley, that you are a mensch.
March 19, 2009, 8:27:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Cecelia | 03.19.09 - 8:32 pm |
Thank you Cecelia....you've completely validated my point made at 7:44 pm.
Right back to watching Arnold's glowing endorsement of President Obama.
March 19, 2009, 8:52:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vstol
Haggis,
You disingenuous, pointy-head hacker!
Your 7:44 pm point has absolutely NOTHING to do with your original 3:29 pm dishonest slur of Ingraham for blatantly lying to her viewers.
Ingraham claimed she didn't call Meghan "fat." True statement
She never claimed she didn't "insult" MM.
If you have the slightest modicum of integrity, correct your original slur.
March 19, 2009, 10:01:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
"This programme is brought to you by waste management"....What an appropriate sponsor for The Factor...Maybe waste management might think about tipping the factor into the back of that nice green dustbin lorry. Only a thought.
Haggis | 03.19.09 - 8:19 pm | #
Haggis - if your view of The Factor had an advertisement saying "programme", then it is not US based but regional based, your region. Apparently Waste Management is a major industry in your area and can afford these expensive commercials.
March 20, 2009, 11:08:36 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
But you felt you had to look!....You also made me choke on my bacon butty with laughter after reading that.
Haggis | 03.19.09 - 8:10 pm | #
Haggy Haggy Haggy - Once again, your "analysis" (if it can even still be called that) is "spot off".
You made the apple comment AFTER I met Ann Coulter. When I saw her, I saw a beautiful woman. IF she would have had such an obtrusive "apple" as you say, it would have been obvious when I met her. As I didn't recall one, then seeing your comments afterward, I did go back and check a photo I have. (You see, I actually do my homework to be sure). And what did I find??? I found that you were wrong.
Your occasional degradation of some women is quite sad.
March 20, 2009, 11:16:18 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
I actually do my homework to be sure). And what did I find??? I found that you were wrong.
Ashley | 03.20.09 - 11:21 am |
I've done extensive homework in this department...You're obviously been looking at the PhotoShopped image that's very prevalent in Right wing circles
http://nothingleftout.com/__oneclick_uploads/2007/06/coulter%20adams%20apple.jpg
March 20, 2009, 1:34:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
haggis has resorted to using smear sites for proof. Oh wait, he's always done that.
March 20, 2009, 1:50:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Haggis - I have to give you credit for your chutzpah, you actually think you know more, because you look at photoshopped images of Ann, then me, who did see her up close and in person.
Perhaps you lack experience in standing close to beautiful women.
March 20, 2009, 1:57:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley | 03.20.09 - 2:02 pm |
Always the wee dig
Your spinning the meaning of my post and you know it.....The picture I posted is the real thing....You must have had those infamous Right wing specks on....while cheeking out the apple....I've warned you about using them in the past.
March 20, 2009, 2:44:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Always the wee dig
Your spinning the meaning of my post and you know it.....The picture I posted is the real thing....You must have had those infamous Right wing specks on....while cheeking out the apple....I've warned you about using them in the past.
Haggis | 03.20.09 - 2:49 pm | #
Do News Clowns have some sort of hypocrisy gene that causes them to invariably belie the principle they have just used to beat someone else over the head?
Peggy goes into spasms suggesting that O'Reilly was so sexist as to suggest that a rape victim "wanted it" and then uses imagery to imply that the cordiality and admiration Grammie and I feel for Johnny, is because we want to have sex with him ( we "want it")!
Other vile idiots at News Hounds tsk-tsked O'Reilly's guest philologist Marina, over her manner of dress and sexy appearance (does she "want it", guys?...) and even argue that Marina's focus on looking sexy demotes a woman's intellectual abilities, and then post nothing but sexual insults and imagery at Grammie and me-- WHEN ALL they see of us is what comes from the intellect-- when we are SOLELY words on a screen- SOLELY written ideas.
Now in keeping with the tradition of News Clowns jettisoning the 'dearly held' principles they have used as club the moment the target changes, Haggis tsk-tsks Ingraham insulting Megan McCain as being fat (despite her explanation) and then acts like it's cute and funny to say that Anne Coulter looks like a man (which is what the adam's apple remark is about).
Hypocrisy is a common human trait, and we've all embraced it at one time or another, but I don't think I've seen a more blitheful willingness to completely abandon all sense of what they'd argue as being liberal sensitivity and moral consciousness when it comes to just regular joes who don't agree with them about a cable channel or politics.
You can't expect principled consistency from Haggis, Ashley, it's overwhelming evident that he doesn't think you're/we are worth that common decency and to afford it is just not a part of him.
March 20, 2009, 6:33:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Cecelia, you know I have always admired your succint analysis. Well, you can add this one to the list.
BTW, would you like to be my ghostwriter? You write so much better then I do.
March 20, 2009, 8:34:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
"Do News Clowns have some sort of hypocrisy gene that causes them to invariably belie the principle they have just used to beat someone else over the head?"
Does the term "liberal hypocrisy" ring any bells? Point it out and you get banned!
March 20, 2009, 11:00:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
