3/3/09 1:21 PM

Friday Links & Open Thread

Latest cable news links [updated through the day]:

Thursday's numbers: another FNC sweep. The chart.

Campbell sub speculation swirls.

Keith challenged to debate.

Rudy Bakhtiar resurfaces.

FNC's big week.

How to spend a trillion.

Q&A: Willie Geist.

Aaron axed.

Julie crash twittering: is it inappropriate? Coverage notes.

Another CNBC fracas.

Quick, the garlic!

Hotline after dark.

Big wheel Chernin.

Intramural face-off: Patti Ann v Shep!

Use our valuable bandwidth to post your comments on any and all cable news topics in today's open thread. Standard rules apply.




Cecelia
Who pissed off Johnny so badly?
February 13, 2009, 1:13:33 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Who didn't?  
 
(You didn't, of course!)
 
But much was learned when the comments were turned off and the pretenders let down their hair, so to speak.
 
This is as good a place as any to make it clear that moderation is going to be imposed in a tough but fair fashion. I've already nuked messages that tried to start up the personal attacks again. I will not hesitate to populate Exile Island if necessary.
February 13, 2009, 1:23:57 AM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
How 'bout me? I'm not as nice as Cecelia but I am a lovable observer of all things cable news as well as a good dancer.
February 13, 2009, 1:37:42 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Dead on the money piece in the Miami Herald link about the NPR flap over Juan Williams.
 
It's astounding that a news organization would take such a position based upon commentary from one of their paid commentators.
 
Perhaps they should issue their analysts a script...
 
They act as though Williams had denied the Holocaust!
 
Equally surprising, was the NPR ombudsman's citing of "56" angry emails! Now there's a grassroots uprising if there ever was one...
 
Whether it's NPR's velvet gloved smack or the hideous racial slurs of the blueblog denizens, I'm flabbergasted by the liberal mentality of pigeonholing people based upon race.
 
If there's anything that illustrates that people of color have a tougher road to travel than whites, it's the fact that they are beset with the sort of presumptions that no caucasian need bear.
 
It's the height of irony that so many liberals defended Pres. Obama's decision to spend decades under the "mentoring" of a pastor who routinely engaged in racially charged rhetoric, but then disavow themselves from Juan Williams when he shows less than total Obama obeisance via a reference to Stokely Carmichael!
 
A tough road to travel, indeed!
February 13, 2009, 2:05:24 AM EST – Like – Reply


notveryhow
"Equally surprising, was the NPR ombudsman's citing of "56" angry emails!"  
 
You have to understand that NPR listeners are educated, intelligent,moderate and serious people who shun inflamatory rhetoric. So 56 NPR listeners writing letters is a street riot.
 
NPR does what Fox only pretends to do, they present the FACTS of the news as free as possible from slant, bias, and especially, inflamatory rhetoric.(And if you don't agree, but you don't listen, then how did you reach that conclusion)  
 
I don't think anyone, even here, would make that claim for Bill O'Reilly. To hear Juan Williams on Fox trying to out O'Reily Bill by making an outrageous comment like "she's got that Stokley Carmichael in a designer dress thing going on" refering to First Lady Michelle Obama, is stunning. You don't hear Scott Simon saying "Laura Bush is like Brittany Spears all growed up".
 
To me, and I believe to most NPR listeners, hearing Williams on Fox is bizarre and unprofessional, and it damages the credibility of NPR. And it's also quite amusing to hear anyone say that Juan lends 'liberal balance".
February 13, 2009, 8:35:24 AM EST – Like – Reply


KeithO
Here is a link to add to your blog and for you guys to reflect on:
 
http://tinyurl.com/cerv2m
 
And you have the nerve to make an issue of people leaving hateful comments.
 
Go to hell.
February 13, 2009, 10:08:35 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Oh what a treat. One of Keith Olbermann's blue blog sources he lifts his nightly attacks from. We'll all give serious consideration to the eeevil that is publishing books. Perhaps even join Keith in a massive bonfire to turn unapproved tomes into piles of ashes.
 
Meanwhile, I have to find the video of Olby smashing a doll of Ann Coulter to pieces on television. Which was before he suggested someone take Hillary Clinton into a room and beat her up.
 
I left in your last sentence. Even though it's a borderline personal attack, it's just too revealing to edit out.
February 13, 2009, 10:20:18 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Perhaps Scott Simon has not called Laura Bush "Britney Spears all gowned up", because Laura Bush has not done or said anything that has caused such a comment to even be ventured by critics.
 
I do listen NPR and "The Best of NPR" (on XM) while driving.
 
As nice as it is to know that tax dollars are going to help fund the listening pleasure of under-funded... "educated, intelligent, moderate and serious people", of whom 56 constitutes a "street riot", there is an obvious flaw in your statement.
 
"Regular" intelligent, educated, moderate and serious people do not harbor the sort of superficially-minded politically doctrinaire dictates that would push Williams statement into an area beyond all sense of proportionality. Partisans DO. And it's the trademark fragile china world of the partisan that is cracked by such off-script sentiments, to point where all 56 of them go screaming to their keyboards...
 
From saying that it was the first time she had felt proud of her country to making certain questions off-limits during a campaign by saying that they were unimportant because they don't "help" her children and poor familes, fairly or unfairly, Mrs. Obama had assisted in her own pigeonholing as grievance-oriented leftist (as the cover of The New Yorker magazine satirized).
 
Williams aptly made the comment that she could indeed make herself as much a liability to her husband as many feared about Biden.
 
That's an arguable point, hardly the stuff of extremists. Wishing to keep paid analysts in tow and on politically correct script, even when they are speaking in another forum, most certainly is.
February 13, 2009, 11:07:43 AM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
John - I apologize for my part in getting into it with Baba/MT/you know who. What started off as a simple question from me challenging something he said....just went wrong.
February 13, 2009, 11:14:38 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Well, Johnny, the concept of issuing awards for the WORST person in the world every week night, is such a humorous and light-hearted one, is it not?
 
I can't think of anything more intellectually disingenuous than blaming Bernard Goldberg's criticism of some media entities, for some psychopath's violent hate crime.
 
It's opportunistic and hideously trivializing of the real pathologies of this murderer, and it's a tactic that could well come back to bite Mr. Olbermann (or any talking head) too.
 
That Olbermann is only too well aware of that risk, is evidence enough of his own reckless sense of entitlement.
February 13, 2009, 11:20:40 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I see ellen had to take down her post inviting people to send videos to "hannity hate mail."
 
That one backfired, big time! LOL!
February 13, 2009, 11:27:42 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Ashley, we now know what Baba was really up to so the blame is certainly not all, or even mostly yours. Thanks for being honest and up-front!
February 13, 2009, 11:27:47 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I pushed "babas" buttons, too. It was intentional. He showed his true colors.

Edited By Siteowner
February 13, 2009, 11:30:54 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I just don't understand what sort of kick anyone would get by coming to a blog and pretending to harbor sentiments not truly felt.
 
What's up with that? What is it? Are they are frustrated unemployed actors or something?
February 13, 2009, 11:33:22 AM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Whenever I see someone begin with "You have to understand...," I fully expect that what will follow is an opinion stated as fact in the form of a lecture based upon a presumption of superiority. I'm rarely disappointed.
 
From  
 
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1930705
 
"Juan Williams, one of America's leading journalists, is a news analyst, appearing regularly on the newsmagazines Morning Edition and Day to Day. Knowledgeable and charismatic, Williams brings insight and depth — hallmarks of NPR programs — to a wide spectrum of issues and ideas."
 
"Juan Williams is a NEWS ANALYST..." (emphasis mine). NPR describes his role as "news analyst," not a reporter, not a purveyor of the news or even a disseminator of facts.
 
What you fail to understand is that we understand.
February 13, 2009, 11:39:00 AM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Johnny...Good to see the comments turned back on again.
 
After FNC were caught running a GOP press release as news they issued an apology...And rightly so. Below was contained in the apology read out by Jon Scott.
 
"In compiling that story, our producers and researchers did what we always do -- we verified the accuracy of the material."
 
BUT...It seems those very same producers haven't been doing a very good job yet again at "verified the accuracy" of the material" they run on FNC.
 
The salt marsh harvest mouse story is yet another nonsense story...which seems to have slipped passed the "verified the accuracy" threshold that Jon Scott mentioned in his on air apology.
But thankfully there are folk out there who do "verified the accuracy" of a story...And that man is Greg Sargent of The Plum Line...Thanks to his digging he found the origin of the story....The claim originated in an email from an anonymous "House Republican leadership staffer" ...Sargent then contacted them and found them now to be saying this about said story...They "conceded that the claim by conservative media that the mouse money is currently in the bill is a misstatement."....In other words pure crap.
 
My question is this....Why didn't FNC do this research before airing the story? As Jon Scott says....Our producers always "verified the accuracy" of a story...It just seems they don't when a story is anti-Dem.
February 13, 2009, 11:51:02 AM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
This is a serious question, Haggie. And I expect you to answer, as it goes to your motivations. Why is it that you only complain about Fox reporting this story. Not a word about CNN or MSNBC, both of whom reported it as well? Why is it that you don't ridicule their fact-checking? In your own words.
February 13, 2009, 11:55:13 AM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 11:32 am | #  
 
OS, what happened with it? I missed Hannity last night, pre-empted due to the Buffalo plane crash, but I saw a preview that showed a video hate message. Very curious.
February 13, 2009, 11:55:28 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
It just seems they don't when a story is anti-Dem.
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 11:56 am | #  
 
You're really reaching, here. Apparently you haven't been watching your orange hero? How many "apologies" and smears this week? I've lost count.
February 13, 2009, 11:55:30 AM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 12:00 pm |  
 
Your right to ask me that...These other channels are also at fault for not fact checking...I don't receive MSNBC/CNN America...So I can't hear what they are saying on the matter...I only hear the FNC side.
Sadly the dish motor has packed up.
February 13, 2009, 12:02:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Ashley, nothing new. ellen is begging her 4 minions to send Hannity "hate videos" but they aren't going for it. The post was down, but, now it's back up.
February 13, 2009, 12:04:54 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Sure because you saw it on Fox yourself. You didn't just rip 'n' read from an anti-Fox site that happened to leave out the fact that all three cable news channels reported the story?
 
Your electric satellite dish has picked a very convenient time to go on the fritz.
February 13, 2009, 12:05:45 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
.I don't receive MSNBC/CNN America
 
by haggy
 
You're lying, already?
February 13, 2009, 12:06:07 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Your electric satellite dish has picked a very convenient time to go on the fritz.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 12:10 pm | #  
 
Indeed, it has.......
February 13, 2009, 12:10:12 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 12:10 pm |
 
Johnny...I'm not going to comment on news channels I haven't heard the story on...I don't think you'd expect me to do so either...Personally I only heard the story about the mouse on FNC...for the reasons above.
If you can give me good evidence that the Greg Sargent story isn't true...I'll then happily retract my original thoughts in my post....Until then I stand by what I said.
February 13, 2009, 12:13:24 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 12:11 pm |
 
You show me where BSkyB offer MSNBC/CNN America then....You'll be searching for a while.
February 13, 2009, 12:15:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 12:20 pm | #
 
You've already claimed you watch both on the internet. You know, that little thingy alGore invented?
February 13, 2009, 12:22:08 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Sure because you saw it on Fox yourself. You didn't just rip 'n' read from an anti-Fox site that happened to leave out the fact that all three cable news channels reported the story?
 
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 12:10 pm | #  
 
How dare you suggest that this guileless guardian of journalistic integrity is little more than a one-trick anti-FNC pony...
February 13, 2009, 12:25:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 12:27 pm |
 
Yes I do watch clips(not live) from both sites...But I didn't hear the mouse story...So as I said....How can I comment on something I haven't heard...Maybe you do that sort of thing...But I don't.
February 13, 2009, 12:28:50 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
mms://uk-bskybwm.fplive.net/bskyb/radio/news.asf. MSNBC FEED  
 
LOL!
February 13, 2009, 12:29:48 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Haggis, isn't there something going on in your country that you might find of the tiniest bit of interest?
 
Isn't there something on the wonderful BBC that might capture a small smidgen of attention from the ole Alabama Dem?...
February 13, 2009, 12:31:50 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Cecelia | 02.13.09 - 12:30 pm |
 
I openly admit I'm anti-FNC....SO?
February 13, 2009, 12:32:23 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I openly admit I'm anti-FNC....SO?
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 12:37 pm | #  
 
Great. Now get to the real gist of the matter and openly admit that you're are so obsessive in this hatred that you've lied, masqueraded, and pretended, in order to sit here and pique people who don't share your views.
February 13, 2009, 12:41:54 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
MySpace now streams MSNBC on its new "Impact" channel
February 13, 2009, 12:43:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 12:34 pm |
 
I don't know where you got that link from...But VLC won't have any of it.
 
Here is the Sky channel list for news:
 
NEWS
 
501-Sky News
502-Bloomberg
503-BBC NEWS
504-BBC PARL'MNT
505-CNBC
506-CNN International
507-S4C2
508-EuroNews
509-FOX News
510-CCTV-9
511-NDTV 24x7
512-Russia Today
513-France 24
514-Al Jazeera Eng
515- Press TV
516- NHK World TV
 
http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-sky-tv/12103-sky-tv-channel-list.html
February 13, 2009, 12:47:30 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
And it's also quite amusing to hear anyone say that Juan lends 'liberal balance".
notveryhow | 02.13.09 - 8:40 am | #  
 
About as amusing as your pals calling chris mathews a "republican shill" I suppose.
February 13, 2009, 12:48:31 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
How can I comment on something I haven't heard...Maybe you do that sort of thing...But I don't.
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 12:33 pm | #  
 
Under which alias do you not comment on something you haven't heard with your own two hairy ears?
 
Alabama Dem? Stan? Mypinchpoint?
February 13, 2009, 12:48:49 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
"FoxNews won every single demographic category from 18-34 to 25-54, again in primetime and total day. Judging by last week, conservatives turned out in droves to watch Fox, while liberals abandoned CNN and MSNBC."
 
:lol:
February 13, 2009, 12:56:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 12:52 pm | #
 
You've admitted to watching olby and all of your other left wing heros on the internet. End of story about you "not seeing it."
February 13, 2009, 12:58:21 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
I seem to remember recent comments about Bill O'Reilly calling BHO a pinhead, when it was clearly established later that he did no such thing.
February 13, 2009, 12:58:41 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Cecelia | 02.13.09 - 12:53 pm | #
 
Was haggy stan black or just stan?
February 13, 2009, 12:59:07 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Alabama Dem? Stan? Mypinchpoint?
Cecelia | 02.13.09 - 12:53 pm |
 
Those names were only used when Haggisfarmer was shelling coconuts...In other words banned.
I can't remember every saying I had hairy ears...just a wee white lie by you there
February 13, 2009, 1:04:43 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Ashley | 02.13.09 - 1:03 pm |
 
My hairy ears must have been the cause of my mishearing what Bill said...Thanks Cecelia for giving me the cover for that simple error....I'd have never thought of using that one
February 13, 2009, 1:11:36 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Johnny, I demand that my avatar be in color, like yours!
February 13, 2009, 1:11:48 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Those names were only used when Haggisfarmer was shelling coconuts...In other words banned.
I can't remember every saying I had hairy ears...just a wee white lie by you there
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 1:09 pm | #  
 
In other words, trying to get around Johnny's rules because you're so obsessively anti-FNC.
 
You don't have to tell anyone that you have hairy ears. All trolls have hairy ears.
February 13, 2009, 1:12:07 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
My hairy ears must have been the cause of my mishearing what Bill said...Thanks Cecelia for giving me the cover for that simple error....I'd have never thought of using that one
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 1:16 pm | #  
 
On the contrary, thank you.
 
That you must constantly provide "cover" for your own words and actions here, is an admission that you that you lie, Haggis.
February 13, 2009, 1:28:28 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Cecelia | 02.13.09 - 1:33 pm |  
 
I don't need cover for anything...I made a mistake...Simple as that.
 
Fingers crossed my avatar works...It's a hairy Haggis...Cecelia will be happy
February 13, 2009, 1:39:32 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
haggy, were you stan black, too?
February 13, 2009, 1:47:34 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Cecelia,  
 
Your choice:
 
Tis one?
February 13, 2009, 1:51:02 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
"Cover" was YOUR word, Haggis.  
 
Don't back off the truth when you finally manage to tell it.
February 13, 2009, 1:53:11 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
test
February 13, 2009, 1:58:04 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
vstol, it's a bit fuzzy.
February 13, 2009, 1:58:11 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Or this one?
February 13, 2009, 1:58:26 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 1:52 pm |
 
NO.
 
Cecelia | 02.13.09 - 1:58 pm |
 
You were the one who said I had hairy ears...so I simply used what you suggested.
February 13, 2009, 2:00:03 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
OK, how do I get on the Avatar bandwagon?
February 13, 2009, 2:02:35 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I thought I posted it above but now it isn't there. I might have nuked it by accident. Go to gravatar.com to get into the avatar game. The optimal size, for this site anyhow, is 40x40.
February 13, 2009, 2:06:10 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Choice #2 should be a live bird.
February 13, 2009, 2:11:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
vstol,
 
I think your choice #2 should be Captain America. 
February 13, 2009, 2:58:07 PM EST – Like – Reply


Michael Todd
You guys have nothing else to talk about except avatars, at least I thought Ashley might at least tell us what kind of makeup she wears.
February 13, 2009, 3:00:18 PM EST – Like – Reply


Blackflon
To me, and I believe to most NPR listeners, hearing Williams on Fox is bizarre and unprofessional, and it damages the credibility of NPR. And it's also quite amusing to hear anyone say that Juan lends 'liberal balance".
notveryhow | 02.13.09 - 8:40 am | # 
 
This coming from another News Mutt whose group belittles woman on a daily basis and then refers to it as sarcasm.
February 13, 2009, 3:06:28 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
MT, I'm not sure why you are posting here, after declaring that you were done and weren't coming back. (Despite the multiple comments of yours I deleted earlier today for rules violations.) But as long as you're here, I must inquire about this:
 
"Now Dollar is bitching about a Fox News employee messing with kiddie porn. Saying that the media has it in for Fox News."
 
Can you please point to my post where I said this? Thank you so much.
February 13, 2009, 3:06:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


Blackflon
And you have the nerve to make an issue of people leaving hateful comments.
 
Go to hell.
KeithO | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 10:13 am | # 
 
According to you Goldberg is resonsible for this guys actions. Your ignorance is astonishing.
February 13, 2009, 3:07:50 PM EST – Like – Reply


Blackflon
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 3:11 pm | # 
 
Michael Todd and Johnt are sent by Ellen to disrupt this site.

Edited By Siteowner
February 13, 2009, 3:15:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


Michael Todd
You know when a Fox employee gets arrested, the haters erupt with glee. So yesterday when Aaron Bruns, who was an embed producer covering the Hillary Clinton campaign, was picked up on child pornography charges, the most reckless elements of the blogosphere just couldn't help themselves: 
 
Another REPUBLICAN pedophile gets caught!
 
I love it when a NeoCon shill shows his hand.
 
Meanwhile, over at Keith Olbermann's blog, 
 
Right Here Dollar, only you could spin something like this, he was a pedophile but that Ok he at least works for Fox. or I should say worked.
February 13, 2009, 3:20:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


Michael Todd
Blackflon | 02.13.09 - 3:20 pm | # 
Any proof, probably not. Shocker
 
And os is sent by Dollar to disrupt Newhounds.
February 13, 2009, 3:23:29 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Thanks for the quote MT, but where did I say "the MEDIA has [sic] it in for Fox News"? Quotes from blog commentators are not "the media".
February 13, 2009, 3:25:14 PM EST – Like – Reply


Michael Todd
Hey 
Johnny,
I heard you used to be like the little os at Newshounds, change you name multiple times and go on personal attack. Ask me for proof I have it.
February 13, 2009, 3:25:44 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I'll be happy to ask you for proof, but I'm still waiting for you to quote me about "the media" as per above. If you want to toss in proof of my "going on personal attack" [sic] feel free to do so.
February 13, 2009, 3:27:10 PM EST – Like – Reply


Michael Todd
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 3:30 pm | # 
 
If you keep reading since it is one of your post you went after Olbermann who is part of the media. And a great part of the media.
February 13, 2009, 3:27:24 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Who knew gravatars could be so complicated.
February 13, 2009, 3:27:45 PM EST – Like – Reply


Michael Todd
http://www.newshounds.us/2009/01/29/mark_koldys_aka_johnny_dollar_cant_get_over_us.php
 
For everyone to see
February 13, 2009, 3:29:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


Blackflon
I heard you used to be like the little os at Newshounds, change you name multiple times and go on personal attack. Ask me for proof I have it.
Michael Todd | 02.13.09 - 3:30 pm | #
 
Is this the same as you using Michael Weston over at the Mutts?
February 13, 2009, 3:30:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I'm sorry MT, but I didn't go after Olbermann at all. So you are coming up short on that charge. If you can't substantiate it you are required to take it back and admit you were wrong.
 
As for citing a newshounds article from documented liar Ellen as your "proof"? I was born at night, but not last night. Quote me some of the "personal attacks" you claim I made. Three or four should be sufficient. Or else, once again, you are required to take back that comment as well and admit you were wrong.
 
Until you address these two issues, any other comments by you that do not address these issues will be held in the moderation queue, as per the rules.
February 13, 2009, 3:33:10 PM EST – Like – Reply


Blackflon
Until you address these two issues, any other comments by you that do not address these issues will be held in the moderation queue, as per the rules.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 3:38 pm | # 
 
You're gonna make Michael cry.
February 13, 2009, 3:34:11 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
You guys have nothing else to talk about except avatars, at least I thought Ashley might at least tell us what kind of makeup she wears.
Michael Todd | 02.13.09 - 3:05 pm | # 
 
Patrick, when you posted here as Baba, most of us admired you as a rational FNC critic (albeit with dismal grammar and spelling skills).
 
Most of us ALSO assumed you to be female, which set off a flurry of chagrined corrections from you.
 
You imply Ashley is effeminate because you don't like him. We all thought you to be a girl when we DID like you.
 
What does say about your style, darlin'?...
February 13, 2009, 3:35:19 PM EST – Like – Reply


Michael Todd
Right wing conservatives take thier entitlement patriarchy a little too seriously.
 
If this is one example of what conservative values looks like, I will stick with my liberal ideals.
 
Geez, these Republicans really need to do something about their ever-growing repression because, when they don't release it in a healthy manner, [deleted] like this ends up happening.
 
The fact that the guy is a FOX producer just points to the rank hypocrisy that permeates modern republicanism.
 
It seems that the Republicans have a huge problem with pedophilia...
 
These artre thins posted from Olbermann Blog (my mistake) which you cut and pasted. 
And citing a post by you is no different that posting something from Ellen and since her sites has many more hts than this does, I would assume people take the Liberal side more than the Conservatice side.
February 13, 2009, 3:41:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Well MT, I'll give you one more chance. Quote me back on where I talk about the porn arrest where I say "the media" have it in for Fox. Point 2: Quote me back where I went on "personal attack" over at the newshounds. Answer in each case either with documentation and proof (i.e. quotes from me) or your retraction. Otherwise the rules will be followed.
February 13, 2009, 3:46:09 PM EST – Like – Reply


Michael Todd
Dollar, 
Olbermann is part of the media (right)
you made a remark about Olbermanns Blog going after the Pedophile(right). That to me is saying the media (although) one source has it in for Fixed News. The other proof is coming. 
But as a Former Prosecutor (liar) you can just spin it any way you want.
February 13, 2009, 3:49:05 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Well OK, if you think mentioning Olbermann's blog = "the media have it in for Fox"--when not one member of the media was quoted anywhere in the piece--then you lose point one, unless you want to amend your statement and admit that I never said what you claim. Your message contained two rules violations, so that doesn't portend well for you regardless of how point two is settled, but I'll wait for your proof on that one. But not forever.
February 13, 2009, 3:50:51 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Bill O'Reilly sends flowers to Helen Thomas....But isn't man enough to say sorry on air. Thankfully Keith is man enough to appologise for his error over the Murdoch quote....and didn't just send him flowers.
February 13, 2009, 4:04:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
I suspect that Keith "Czechoslovakia" Olbermann will remain true to form by ignoring and avoiding Betsy McCaughey's debate challenge. As the world knows, Keith is not competent enough to talk directly with and legitimately debate anyone who has an opposing point of view.
February 13, 2009, 4:06:59 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Claudo, 
I deleted the email sorry. 
I looked at the main Newshounds page and could not find Helen's comments about Dollar. 
Can you help? 
Posted by: Michael Weston on Thu 2.12 8:10pm 
=-=
 
1. Needs help finding the article entitled: Mark Koldys a/k/a Johnny Dollar Can't Get Over Us, reported by Ellen.
 
2. Who's Helen?
February 13, 2009, 4:08:04 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
But as a Former Prosecutor (liar) you can just spin it any way you want.
Michael Todd | 02.13.09 - 3:54 pm | # 
 
Olbermann's blog = The media in general.
 
Please don't use your crafty lawyerly skills to spin that bit of brilliance against the poor boy, Johnny....
February 13, 2009, 4:08:14 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
C'mon Cece, you know a drowning man will grasp at anything.
February 13, 2009, 4:11:39 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
C'mon Cece, you know a drowning man will grasp at anything.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 4:16 pm | # 
 
You're being generous with the term "man", Johnny.
February 13, 2009, 4:13:16 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I just don't understand what sort of kick anyone would get by coming to a blog and pretending to harbor sentiments not truly felt.
 
Cecelia | 02.13.09 - 11:38 am
 
This is a recent post at Dollars Crapper, is that not the same [expletive deleted] os does here. Go they are a sad sack group.
 
Posted by: Michael Weston on Fri 2.13 11:43am 
 
Hey, patrick. Please show me where I "harbored sentiments not truly felt." Can ya? Of course you can't.
 


Edited By Siteowner...PS "Michael Weston" is our Michael Tood
February 13, 2009, 4:13:40 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Fox now reporting that members didn't read the whole stimulus package before voting...that may be true...But Fox seem to forget no one (republicans) read the patriot act before voting...Fox didn't have a problem there.
February 13, 2009, 4:13:48 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"Fox didn't have a problem there."
 
What is your proof of that? I must ask you to document that, or else take it back.
 
(Hey, this is fun!)
February 13, 2009, 4:16:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


Puck30
Was Anderson Cooper compairing Republicans to the Taliban?
 
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/podcasts/ac360/site/2009/02/12/cooper.podcast.thursday.cnn?iref=videosearch
 
It's not the whole part of the segment. It's the podcast. But there's enough bits and pieces to make you say hhhmmm, in the first 20 minutes.
 
I was listening to 'you-know-who' (JD). And his first hour he was just railing, I mean RAILING against Cooper. Backed it up with some good clips.
 
The only good replay of the tirade ( I know of ) is 10 p.m. EST tonight.
 
http://www.newstalk1160.com/
February 13, 2009, 4:18:14 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 4:21 pm |
 
As this happened a while ago...I don't have all the info at hand...I'll get back to you when I do.
Cue time for Ashley to comment
February 13, 2009, 4:19:41 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
OK then you are fine with not posting until you decide to post your proof? Or do you want to throw in the towel now and admit you were in error?
February 13, 2009, 4:21:25 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
.I'll get back to you when I do.
Cue time for Ashley to comment
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 4:24 pm | # 
 
In other words, talking out your ***, again.
February 13, 2009, 4:22:53 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 4:26 pm |
 
I'm not throwing the towel anywhere...But I'll take the comment back until I have time to find proof....I'm currently on the 8th hole...and doing well.
February 13, 2009, 4:26:42 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
"Mr. Olbermann, do you have the backbone (and the facts) to debate me?"
 
Betsy McCaughey 
 
:lol: 
 
No, but he's spineless enough to make you a worst person in the world!
February 13, 2009, 4:28:36 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
OK then you are fine with not posting until you decide to post your proof? Or do you want to throw in the towel now and admit you were in error?
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 4:26 pm | # 
 
Put up or shut up... I like it! 
February 13, 2009, 4:29:15 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Is there a place where FNC keep their older stuff? All I get when trying to access it is "Page Cannot Be Found
 
You've requested a FOXNews.com page that cannot be found. The page you are looking for may have moved or it may no longer be available. We apologize for the inconvenience."
February 13, 2009, 4:35:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"I'll take the comment back until I have time to find proof..."
 
A wise decision, one that others would be smart to emulate. Here, I'll let you look over this transcript in the meantime and let you ponder the question of what 'proof' that you could possibly find that would establish that your statement is not a steaming pile of dung:
 
ANDREW NAPOLITANO, FOX NEWS SR. JUDICIAL ANALYST: Right. It's funny because when Attorney General John Ashcroft appeared before the House Judiciary Committee and the Senate Judiciary Committee, he wouldn't take any questions, but he did make a statement. He said we need the Patriot Act to prosecute terrorists. And Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said the same thing today.
 
Guess how many prosecutions of terrorists there have been under the Patriot Act since 9/11? Zero. Not a single one. The government has used these powers for other things, other crimes — prostitution, pornography, political corruption in Las Vegas....
 
Look, there are three or four serious problems with the Patriot Act, none of which are subject to the sunset clauses: the sneak and peek, which allows agents to break into a house and make it look like a burglary; the self-written search warrant aspect, which allows agents to write their own search warrants, even the Constitution says only judges can issue search warrants; and the "thou shalt not speak" aspect, which says if you are the subject of a search warrant, you can't tell anyone about it — you can't tell Gibson, Napolitano, your spouse, or your lawyer about it. Those are direct violations of the Constitution...
 
Remember, there was no debate on the Patriot Act three years ago. Congress passed it without debate. If they debate it this time, it will be the first time they're talking about it in public.
February 13, 2009, 4:38:14 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I'm currently on the 8th hole...and doing well.
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 4:31 pm | # 
 
I hope somebody else keeps track of your strokes..........
February 13, 2009, 4:50:52 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 4:43 pm |
 
I may have been a bit rash with saying "Fox didn't have a problem there." but I was correct that Republicans didn't read the whole bill before voting on the patriot act.
February 13, 2009, 4:52:46 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Well neither did anyone else, so your point about Republicans is pointless...and off-topic as a political jab out of place at a cable news forum. In fact, here's more from Napolitano:
 
The most sinful aspect of its passage was how members of the House were not permitted to read it. It was posted on the House Intranet for 15 min [before the vote] and it’s 315 pages long. I read it twice, and it took me 20 hours each time. And you need in front of you not just it, but lots of other statutes, the full U.S. criminal code, to process it. It does lots of amending of other statutes, so you need to reread [those] statues to figure out what government has done by amending that statute.
 
Don't bother pursuing this issue. Your Republican/Democrat argument is a red herring, a diversion into politics that is off-topic for this blog. So there!
February 13, 2009, 4:58:24 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 4:55 pm |
 
OS...I'm not physically on the course. :lol:
February 13, 2009, 4:59:04 PM EST – Like – Reply


Michael Todd
Ohhhhh, yes he did. I was a moderator for a spell last year under a different screen name, and Dollar was on the mains one night along with his little baby ducks OS, Tony, Steve, Grammie and Fast Eddie. He signed himself as Johnny Dollar and the IP checked out as being in Canton, Michigan. 
Posted by: bluestater on Fri 2.13 4:38pm
 
Hey ya go Dollar. Someone else who said you troll around at Newshounds and have you minoins come with you.
February 13, 2009, 5:03:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I may have been a bit rash with saying "Fox didn't have a problem there." but I was correct that Republicans didn't read the whole bill before voting on the patriot act.
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 4:57 pm | # 
 
What's it like living your life in reverse 24/7?
February 13, 2009, 5:03:35 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
OS...I'm not physically on the course.
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 5:04 pm | # 
 
You think I didn't know that?
February 13, 2009, 5:04:18 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Now Beck is saying no one read the whole 1000 + page Bill...Beck obviously hasn't heard of summaries.
February 13, 2009, 5:05:11 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I'm not throwing the towel anywhere...But
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 4:31 pm | #
 
I may have been a bit rash, but......
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 4:57 pm | #
 
:lol:
February 13, 2009, 5:06:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
haggy, since you incapable of debating or answering any serious questions, what do you think of my gravitar? Catchy, huh?
February 13, 2009, 5:08:12 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I may have been a bit rash with saying "Fox didn't have a problem there."
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 4:57 pm | # 
 
With this new put up or shut up policy, Haggis will finally be entertaining.
February 13, 2009, 5:08:16 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"Someone else who said you troll around at Newshounds"
 
Let me get this straight. Your 'proof' is that 'someone else' said it too? I asked you for proof of the "personal attacks" I supposedly posted there. Are you going to stand on what you have given up to this point as your proof, or do you have to run back to the pound and ask them to find some more for you?
February 13, 2009, 5:09:29 PM EST – Like – Reply


david smawley
It is quite apparent that the viewing public is not interested in the Newshounds motto "We watch FoxNews so you don't have to". To the contrary, more folks are tuning into FoxNews than CNN & MSNBC combined. A more appropriate motto for NH's would be " We are irrelevant and plan to remain that way because when we talk to each other, we feel like what we say matters, even though it does not."
February 13, 2009, 5:11:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Hey ya go Dollar. Someone else who said you troll around at Newshounds and have you minoins come with you.
Michael Todd | 02.13.09 - 5:08 pm | # 
 
Your claim was he used different names. No proof? Shocker!
February 13, 2009, 5:13:15 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Now he is asking me for proof, that he changed his name or even posted here.
 
Posted by: Michael Weston on Fri 2.13 3:45pm
February 13, 2009, 5:15:42 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
david smawley | 02.13.09 - 5:16 pm | #
 
All of the mods watch Fox and 5 of the 6 posters watch. The 6th doesn't have a tv.....
February 13, 2009, 5:16:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
OS....I noticed you didn't answer my 11:56 am post....Please do...and don't try and spin your way out of it like Johnny did....by bringing up other news channels saying the same thing....I was specifically talking about FNC.
February 13, 2009, 5:19:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
You could post a pictures of someone getting killed at Dollars [expletive deleted] and he would want more proof.
 
Posted by: Michael Weston on Fri 2.13 5:19pm 
 
You're letting this fool through just so he can make a fool of himself, right?

Edited By Siteowner
February 13, 2009, 5:21:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
"Now he is asking me for proof, that he changed his name or even posted here. "
 
What's this?!? Another challenge-worthy statement? Where did I ever ask for proof that I "even posted" there? Oh well, it will almost certainly be unnecessary to litigate this issue given the way #1 and #2 are progressing, but we'll see. As soon as MT decides if he has presented his compete case, or adopts the better part of valor and just takes back his claims and admits he was wrong, then we'll know.
February 13, 2009, 5:22:14 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 5:24 pm | #
 
Rich, coming from you. Why don't you just go back to yesterday or last week?
February 13, 2009, 5:24:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Haggis, I thought I pretty much demolished your 11:56 am question at 12:00 pm. But then, others may disagree.
February 13, 2009, 5:26:14 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Feb 12, 2009 ... CNN trumpeted. "Pelosi's mouse slated for $30M slice of cheese," .
February 13, 2009, 5:28:52 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
One of many unanswered questions, haggy.
 
haggy, since you incapable of debating or answering any serious questions, what do you think of my gravitar? Catchy, huh?
February 13, 2009, 5:30:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 5:31 pm |
 
And I said those other channels were wrong also in my 12:07 pm post...but my point was made about the channel I can watch...FNC....and not the ones I can't.
February 13, 2009, 5:34:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Ashley, nothing new. ellen is begging her 4 minions to send Hannity "hate videos" but they aren't going for it. The post was down, but, now it's back up.
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 12:09 pm | # 
 
Those hounds have such wonderful life affirming hobbies.
February 13, 2009, 5:39:46 PM EST – Like – Reply


Blackflon
How does one create an avatar here?
February 13, 2009, 5:40:25 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 5:35 pm |
OS your hemorrhaging? bafoonary badly...Hospital help is urgently required...DO NOT DELAY.
February 13, 2009, 5:41:53 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
25-54 Demographic: (L +SD)
 
O'Reilly: 
968
 
Olber.
418
February 13, 2009, 5:45:10 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
just hit F3 and enter avatar....All then will be revealed.
February 13, 2009, 5:45:19 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
and not the ones I can't.
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 5:39 pm | # 
 
Keep telling the lie and it suddenly is true, huh? You've claimed multiple times you watch olby and cnn on the internet. You might be able to bs ellen and the other 4 posters, but, it doesn't work here.......
February 13, 2009, 5:47:19 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 5:24 pm | # 
 
You, Sir, are the last person here to be complaining about other people not answering your questions.
 
In all honesty, due to your past, you do not deserve to have your questions answered.
February 13, 2009, 5:47:49 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Hospital help is urgently required...DO NOT DELAY.
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 5:46 pm | # 
 
Sounds a lot like "seek help, soon," patsy.
February 13, 2009, 5:49:18 PM EST – Like – Reply


Aunty Em Ericann
This place is craz-eee.
 
With all my love,
Aunty Em
February 13, 2009, 5:50:04 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 5:50 pm 
 
Excellent news that Bill won....I just prefer watching proper news....No agenda...So hence I watch BBC/Sky News.
February 13, 2009, 5:50:44 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 5:24 pm | # 
 
Haggis, speaking of unanswered questions.....
February 13, 2009, 6:02:28 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
So much for your "70-dead" saying, huh, patsy? Almost a million for Bill O'Reilly in the ALL important demo!
February 13, 2009, 6:02:48 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Ashley | 02.13.09 - 6:07 pm |
 
I answered your question sometime ago...but for some reason you keep hounding me. 


Edited By Siteowner
February 13, 2009, 6:24:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


Blackflon
W!! Come on Johnny. I thought my remark to Emm was funny.
February 13, 2009, 6:25:22 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I'm not saying you intended it to be anything other than a joke, but it could be interpreted otherwise.
February 13, 2009, 6:29:24 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
So much for your "70-dead"
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 6:07 pm |
 
Obviously gardeners question time was cancelled last night...over on the garden channel...Try some lateral thinking
February 13, 2009, 6:30:43 PM EST – Like – Reply


Michael Weston
think the definition of class is not to make fun of Mr Kondracke's looks and "lack of excitement" after he's just suffered a personal loss. And not to use a word like "morbid" (!) to describe the atmosphere. I can't believe I actually have to explain such things to people. Sheesh.
 
Then of course there are the lies in this entry, but that's another story...
 
Sarahm, you're good at calling names, that's for sure; not so good at rational discussion. But then this is the newshounds website.
 
Look Johnny a personal attack telling someone they are not good at rational discussion
 
Helen changed software a few years back, so alot of your posts were deleted, but from everone I have dealt with they have all said the same things, you got banned due to changing you Ip and for personal attacks. 
But as a lawyer Johnny I am sure you think OJ did not kill his wife and the Bernie Madoff is a real good investor.
February 13, 2009, 6:31:38 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 6:29 pm | #
 
Is your british accent on vacation?
February 13, 2009, 6:33:51 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Excellent news that Bill won....I just prefer watching proper news....No agenda...So hence I watch BBC/Sky News.
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 5:55 pm | # 
 
Unless, of course, you're watching MSNBC on the internet when you wish to make a point about MSNBC.
 
Or unless you're claiming as "cover" that you can't watch MSNBC or CNN because your squirrel running on a wheel generator died.
 
Or unless you're claiming to be watching Gretchen Carlson saying something on F&F five hours after she said it.
 
You have no regard or concern as to how absurd you are.
February 13, 2009, 6:34:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Michael Weston | 02.13.09 - 6:36 pm | #
 
A fine rep for the "news"hounds gang of 4!
February 13, 2009, 6:35:21 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
THAT'S your 'proof' of me launching 'personal attacks' and going under different names? Your final response before the verdict so make your case.
February 13, 2009, 6:35:34 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 6:29 pm | # 
 
Which question are you talking about? I was referring to Bret Baier. You promised to provide proof of his allegely saying something really bad, just waiting for it. Weeks ago you said you would provide it shortly, and you have not.
February 13, 2009, 6:36:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Hey, patrick. Please show me where I "harbored sentiments not truly felt." Can ya? Of course you can't.
February 13, 2009, 6:37:36 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Hmmmm, could there be TWO Michaels that spell IP (as in IP Address) as Ip?
 
Nah.
February 13, 2009, 6:38:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Excellent news that Bill won...[the "KEY" demo...]
 
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 5:55 pm | # 
 
Isn't it though, Haggy!! So glad you're pleased!.... " :lol: "
February 13, 2009, 6:38:14 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Cecelia | 02.13.09 - 6:39 pm | # 
 
Don't forget, he said he was listening to Rush Limbaugh, on a day when Rush was on vacation.
February 13, 2009, 6:39:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Don't forget, he said he was listening to Rush Limbaugh, on a day when Rush was on vacation.
Ashley | 02.13.09 - 6:44 pm | # 
 
Classic!
February 13, 2009, 6:41:34 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Ashley | 02.13.09 - 6:41 pm |
 
I answered the question about Bret Baier....I simply didn't think it fair to attack someone who has gone through so much with his son. I was simply showing compaction.
February 13, 2009, 6:42:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Ashley | 02.13.09 - 6:44 pm |
 
Looks like I'm going to have to signpost all comments from now on....Everything seems to be taken literally over here. Sarcasm is the word your fumbling for over my Limbaugh comment. Adblock+ is loaded with all Limbaugh URLs....So mistakes can't happen.
February 13, 2009, 6:48:07 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Don't forget, he said he was listening to Rush Limbaugh, on a day when Rush was on vacation.
Ashley | 02.13.09 - 6:44 pm | # 
 
Ashley, let's just say that "listening" is a colloquial expression in Britain meaning -- scouring the blue blogs in order to find something...anything...to throw in the faces of adversaries. 
 
In other words, to over-grown adolescent Brit pot heads, listening is now synonymous with "trolling".
 
Feel free to use that "cover" anytime, Haggy.
February 13, 2009, 6:50:17 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
I answered the question about Bret Baier
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 6:47 pm | # 
 
You did not answer the question about Bret Baier. You simply smeared the man then was incapable of backing up your false smear. Instead, you came up with a dodge to avoid answering the question you would not answer.
 
But what else can we expect from you I suppose, you are Haggis. And you are not known for truthfulness or accuracy.
February 13, 2009, 6:51:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I was simply showing compaction.
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 6:47 pm | # 
 
We know you're compacted. 
 
We're well aware that you're full of [naughty word deleted!].

Edited By Siteowner
February 13, 2009, 6:52:25 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Juan Williams on Special Report, still being ID'd as being with NPR. Good.
February 13, 2009, 6:54:50 PM EST – Like – Reply


tess
The reason that FNC ratings are way up is because the republicans have no power now. They can no longer do any alerts on Bush at his T ball games. Everything revolves around Obama and the dems. People turn to Fox to hear all the bashing about Obama and all the errors that his administration has done, my goodness the stock market is going down, Obamas press conference was so boring. All this bashing makes them feel important and relevant. They need their Fox fix in order to survive and not get depressed during the Obama administration. Obama knows how to use the bully pulpit. Fox numbers are up because there are a whole bunch of Fox junkies that are going to need a fix of Fox for the next 4 years in order to feel a little bit happy.
February 13, 2009, 6:56:34 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Sarcasm is the word your fumbling for over my Limbaugh comment. Adblock+ is loaded with all Limbaugh URLs....So mistakes can't happen.
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 6:53 pm | # 
 
Good backpedal to attempt to cover your factually challenged comment. It's not working, but its a good effort.
February 13, 2009, 6:57:33 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Cecelia | 02.13.09 - 6:57 pm | 
 
The sign that my arguments are winning...Your simply having to revert to blatant personal attacks...Even johnny can't stomach them.
February 13, 2009, 7:03:00 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
Can't stomach them? I laughed out loud when I read it! But, rules are rules, and I enforce 'em without fear or favor. Cece knows that.
February 13, 2009, 7:05:58 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I was counting on you to do that, Johnny.
 
It just proves that naughty words are most effective when used sparingly. 
 
Even Haggis felt dissed... 
February 13, 2009, 7:09:30 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
next 4 years in order to feel a little bit happy.
tess | 02.13.09 - 7:01 pm |
 
lets hope 8 years
Your post is spot on...No access to WH talking point so FNC have now had to revert to using Limbaugh/malkin/Drudge talking points....But as we all know from events over the last few days they are simply made up.
February 13, 2009, 7:11:59 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
FNC beat the competition during the Bush Administration and a Republican controlled House and Senate, Tess.
 
If their numbers have increased even more, especially in that young "KEY" demographic (eh...Haggy...), it's just proof that more and more people are seeking the balance that FNC offers.
February 13, 2009, 7:19:07 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Ashley | 02.13.09 - 7:02 pm |
 
No backpedaling here...It's not my fault you can't pick up sarcasm when blatantly laid out in front of your mincers. 
Cecelia....will probably come back with some personal attack here...I mean if she's not talking about the length of my penis....or my hairy ears...She's simply not happy. Go on give it your best shot...I love it
February 13, 2009, 7:33:24 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
more people are seeking the balance that FNC offers.
Cecelia | 02.13.09 - 7:24 pm | #
 
Can you please point me in the direction of these balanced offerings you speak of. The only balanced offerings I can see are the Sky News stories during the ad breaks....FNC simply can't sell enough ads over here to fill a complete ad break.
February 13, 2009, 7:38:26 PM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
"I was simply showing compaction.
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 6:47 pm | # "
 
Poor widdle Haggard. That can actually be dangerous in addition to the pain and unpleasantness of having it treated.
 
I would seek that medical help that you are always trying to shove on OS.
February 13, 2009, 7:43:02 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Grammie | 02.13.09 - 7:48 pm |
Oops....I should pay more attention to what I write instead of the par 5 I'm currently on...But then again I need to win this to take #1 spot on Tiger woods 2009.
I think you know what I was meaning...compassion. I still think OS should seek medical attention urgently.
February 13, 2009, 7:51:36 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
I was awaiting Michael Todd's final offer of 'proof', but he just posted a message telling me to [do something] off. So I interpret that as his decision to stand on the 'proof' presented. The Moderator's Privilege Quorum is meeting and will have a ruling on the matter momentarily.
February 13, 2009, 7:54:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Can you please point me in the direction of these balanced offerings you speak of. The only balanced offerings I can see are the Sky News stories during the ad breaks....FNC simply can't sell enough ads over here to fill a complete ad break.
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 7:43 pm | # 
 
Well, I don't know what's going on your end...so to speak...Haggis, but we've had recent links on this site as to how well FNC does here.
 
I'm sure they appreciate your considerable viewing of the channel.
 
You being part of their burgeoning "KEY" demographic and all, Haggy... 
February 13, 2009, 7:55:18 PM EST – Like – Reply


johnny dollar
The Moderator's Privilege Quorum has made its findings on the Michael Todd Matter.
 
Item 1: Mr Todd's claim that J$, in discussing the Aaron Bruns arrest, wrote that "the media" are out to get Fox. Findings: the Quorum finds that in the example cited by Mr Todd, there is no reference whatsoever to "the media". The post was entirely about comment posts to blogs. The Quorum finds that Mr Todd's claim is: False.
 
Item 2: Mr Todd claimed that J$ would "change you [sic] name multiple times and go on personal attack [sic]. Ask me for proof I have it." Finding: Mr Todd's evidence was a comment thread from 2004 where, after being called an "idiot", J$ replied that the name-caller was better at name-calling than rational argumentation. The Quorum finds this to be an unusually mild 'personal attack' if it is one at all. However, it is not necessary to decide that issue, because Mr Todd presented zero evidence that J$ engaged in personal attacks "multiple times" and zero evidence that he changed his name multiple times. The Quorum finds this claim to be: False
 
Verdict: Under the rules of Moderator's Privilege, all pending MT comments in the message queue (including the vulgar ones) will be deleted. Mr Todd's posting privileges will not resume as he spends a lovely, relaxing time at Exile Island.
 
Remarks: The Quorum would be remiss if it did not point out that the only example Mr Todd cited of a 'personal attack' was from a 2004 posting that has been deleted from the newshounds main site. There is literally no way to get to it from any link on that site accessible to the public. This leads the Quorum to believe that Mr Todd in fact was provided this extremely weak example of a 'personal attack' by a newshound administrator. This tends to lend credence to the post at 3:20 pm claiming that Ellen QB sent him here, though the Quorum does not make any findings of fact on that matter.
 
The Quorum has spoken.
February 13, 2009, 8:06:16 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
Who says the wheels of justice move slowly.
 
Here, justice moves with an eloquence so swiftly composed that it's stunning!
February 13, 2009, 8:15:23 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
FNC simply can't sell enough ads over here to fill a complete ad break.
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 7:43 pm | # 
 
Really? More hagspeak?
February 13, 2009, 8:22:34 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
I still think OS should seek medical attention urgently.
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 7:56 pm | # 
 
Thanks, patsy!
February 13, 2009, 8:23:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 8:11 pm | #
 
Johnny, you're much to fair. I think you should given numbnuts the same respect he gave you. Zilch. He deserved the "ellen" treatment. 
 
She, on one hand gives you a "warning" at the same time is already in the process of banning you or has already completed the process.
February 13, 2009, 8:32:18 PM EST – Like – Reply


Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 8:27 pm |
 
The proof you obviously want....I now expect your last comment to be retracted
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKTbfD6tma0
February 13, 2009, 8:38:04 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Fears about weak subscriber growth at BSkyB sent investors rushing to exit the satellite broadcaster yesterday leaving its shares 15.25p lower at 485.75p.
 
Who wants to advertise where nobody is watching?
February 13, 2009, 9:03:47 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
It's only the UK that has this breakfiller, as UK law doesn't allow the amount of ads they show in the US 
 
Nice try, patsy.
February 13, 2009, 9:07:20 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
BTW, that video doesn't prove Fox News "can't sell ads."
February 13, 2009, 9:09:44 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
No access to WH talking point so FNC have now had to revert to using Limbaugh/malkin/Drudge talking points....But as we all know from events over the last few days they are simply made up.
Haggis | 02.13.09 - 7:16 pm | # 
 
Have NOW had to revert????? C'mon Haggy, you've been saying this same thing since I can remember.
 
By the way, nice how you completely dodged commenting on your incompetence in backing up your claim that Bret Baier allegedly said something that was "bad".
February 13, 2009, 9:18:38 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
OK Haggy - since you have determined that video is proof, you must prove to us that it was definitely not a technical problem which is far more obvious a reason, therefore through your investigation, you were able to rule that out as a theory.
 
Then tell us what you claim Bret Baier said.
February 13, 2009, 9:21:51 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Haggis claims that his post from 2/4, which follows, is "sarcasm when blatantly laid out in front of your mincers. 
 
Blatant Sarcasm by Haggis
 
Your so right, David...How I'd love to see Keith get those "fair and balanced" numbers that say O'reilly/Hannity/Limbaugh get. I mean the higher the ratings the more "fair and balanced" you are....Isn't that how it works?....I was only listening to Rush today....and I remember saying to myself...A more "fair and balanced" chap I've not heard.
HaggisFarmer | 02.04.09 - 7:11 pm | # 
 
Sarcasm? No.
February 13, 2009, 9:31:08 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Thanks for the link to the chart of BORs magnificent ratings as compared to the paltrey results for Olby. A true eye opener. I remember a year ago so many on the left were claiming that Olby would be far ahead in the ratings by now.
 
Well, he's not, and I bet he's just a tad bit annoyed at that.
February 13, 2009, 9:35:15 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
Hmmmmm, do we have a Haggis impersonator in here? There is a discrepancy in his avatar.
 
Like many others here, today I created an avatar for the first time. I've since changed it twice, and each time the new avatar went into effect, the avatar updated on all previous posts. My Keithy Danger Mouse pic updated to a closer shot of dange mouse, updating to the current U.S. Flag w/Eagle.
 
Now, I notice his posts show different Avatars, so Haggy, what's going on? Using different email addresses, someone impersonating you, or is something else up?
February 13, 2009, 9:42:53 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Olbyloon Ed
Todays student: patsy:lol: 
 
Ofcom’s main job is to further the interests of consumers and citizens. For many years, there have been limits on both the amount of advertising, and how often there can advertising breaks during programmes.
 
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/rada/summary/
 
Your bs is going to slide here, patsy.
February 13, 2009, 9:54:24 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
1.11 The current European rules are set out in a law called the Television without Frontiers Directive, known for short as the TWF Directive. This limits the daily amount of advertising on television channels to an average of 9 minutes an hour (plus up to 3 minutes of teleshopping spots ), but no more than 12 minutes in any one hour. This means that a channel broadcasting for 24 hours a day could show up to 216 minutes of advertising spots (9 minutes x 24 hours), and up to 72 minutes of teleshopping spots, a combined total of 288 minutes.
 
Which channel did patsy say he watched? Some channels have stricter rules. Didn't he say channel 4?
February 13, 2009, 9:59:56 PM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
more people are seeking the balance that FNC offers. Cecelia | 02.13.09 - 7:24 pm | #
 
Can you please point me in the direction of these balanced offerings you speak of. Haggis | 02.13.09 - 7:43 pm | # 
=-=
 
I'm just curious. I wonder which cable news channel has the most viewers that are Democrats? Independents? Republicans?
 
I wonder which cable news channel has the most balanced breakdown of viewers by political party/lideology?
 
I wonder which cable news channels, post election/post innauguration, have a growing audience and which have a diminishing audience? Which have retained the increase in audience due to the election?
 
I could go on wondering about the balance of straight news coverage, the party balance of guests discussing a political issue or even the presence of opposition voices during the primetime commentary programs, but I need to go real slow so I don't get..uhhh......filibusted.
February 13, 2009, 10:11:03 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
Your gravatar is linked to your email address.
 
Cece, yours if my favorite!
February 13, 2009, 10:16:13 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Your bs is going to slide here, patsy.
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 02.13.09 - 9:59 pm | # 
 
Who's the editor, here? I meant not going to slide.
February 13, 2009, 11:04:46 PM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
I'm glad you like it, FF. 
 
It wasn't easy finding a tiny picture of a delicious Grey Goose dirty martini.
February 13, 2009, 11:18:21 PM EST – Like – Reply


Grammie
Since you scooped up the Goose I'll have to try for a jar of olives.
February 14, 2009, 1:07:00 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
Biggest lie: He pretends to hate us, yet can't stay away.
 
Posted by: Ellen on Sat 2.14 12:49am 
 
Ok, toughy. Show me a post where I said I hated anyone. Please, belittle yourself some more. I know, you can make a post up like you have before.
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Here's the most recent lie from you:
 
it hangs around here, whining about how much it hates us. What a sad life!
 
Olby Sucks | 02.14.09 - 12:20 am | #
February 14, 2009, 1:15:00 AM EST – Like – Reply


Cecelia
No one ever turned down a Stoli cocktail either, Grammie!
February 14, 2009, 8:23:29 AM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
his lies needs to be stopped.
 
Posted by: Michael Weston on Sat 2.14 5:42am 
 
Well, so far you or any of your fellow Fox News (#1) haters have not posted a single lie from me or Johnny. Shocker!
February 14, 2009, 11:15:10 AM EST – Like – Reply


vstol
OS,
 
With all due respect and in no way trying to stifle your posting, please consider this possibility:
 
Weston has been 'Robinson Carusoed' here and, while cracking coconuts, he's contemplating what he needs to do to get voted off Exile Island. 
 
When you C&P his NH posts here, you, as a proxy, are allowing him to comment here without him having to earn his way back.
 
As, I believe, you have been banned at NH and Weston has been delagated to the pound, the two of you are continuing your feud via your respective bulletin boards as opposed to mano a mano.
 
It is my opinion that, if and until his posting privileges here have been restored, C&Ping his comments here is counterproductive as well as counterintuitive.
February 14, 2009, 12:15:15 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
One wonders how many of NHs thousands of posters are all Patrick/MT/MW/Babs
February 14, 2009, 12:57:45 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
vstol | 02.14.09 - 12:20 pm | #
 
I respect your opinion, but, my feud is not with little patrick boy. My feud is with several of them lying about things I have supposedly said.
 
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One wonders how many of NHs thousands of posters are all Patrick/MT/MW/Babs
Ashley | 02.14.09 - 1:02 pm | # 
 
I e-mailed ellen a long time ago informing her of the 2 or 3 posters using countless names. She said she was aware of it, but, it was "hard to control."
February 14, 2009, 1:27:06 PM EST – Like – Reply


Fox Fan
You have a point vstol, but I appreciate OS's C&Ps because he exposes the hypocrisy at the pound. 
 
He watches NHs so you don't have to®!
February 14, 2009, 2:01:15 PM EST – Like – Reply


Ashley
He watches NHs so you don't have to®!
Fox Fan | Homepage | 02.14.09 - 2:06 pm | # 
 
Heh heh.
 
OS - I bet it would make things lively if you used "I watch NH so you don't have to."® as your signature for each post over there.
February 14, 2009, 2:23:27 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
What's funny is the whole "we watch Fox News (#1) so you don't have to" is all for not. All 6 of the posters and all 4 of the mods watch Fox News (#1)! Except aap, his latino neighbors stole his tv the other day when he was out looking for rocks......
February 14, 2009, 3:05:12 PM EST – Like – Reply


Olby Sucks
haggy, see my 10:04, above. I see a back pedal coming........
February 14, 2009, 5:24:25 PM EST – Like – Reply