'The Absolute Vehicle'

posted: Fri - March 9, 2007 at 07:52 PM       j$p  send 

Tom
Kucinich is a media whore. Apparently you're not intelligent enough to recognize that.
 
Democrats learned it a LONG time ago.
March 9, 2007, 7:56:59 PM EST – Like – Reply

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Fox Fan
How long is it going to take for them to realize that Fox News is the only fair and balanced cable TV news outlet that a proven majority trusts?
March 9, 2007, 8:33:10 PM EST – Like – Reply

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Tom
A majority? LOL. The majority of voters in this country don't trust Fox. Fox only has 2 million viewers on any given day. MOre than 100 MILLION people voted in the last election.
 
You're full of it and you know it. Cite just ONE source proving that a "MAJORITY" trusts Fox. Typical Fox News propagandist, unable to back up his bs with fact.
 
Cavuto, Gibson, O'Reilly, Hannity, North, Gigot, Kasich and Gutfeld are ALL Republicans. The overwhelming majority of Fox guests are Republicans and conservatives.
March 9, 2007, 8:58:00 PM EST – Like – Reply

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Fox Fan
You only want one source that Fox News is the only fair and balanced cable TV news outlet that a proven majority trusts??
 
We can start with TVNewser and its Nielsen ratings. There are more sources of TV ratings, feel free to search around.
March 9, 2007, 9:32:18 PM EST – Like – Reply

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Anita Stewart
How can Dennis Kucinich be a media whore when the media does everything they can to ignore his existence? Especially when talking about presidential candidates? Fox is a joke, it is pure propaganda and it's interests are corporate ones, definitely NOT THE NEWS.
March 9, 2007, 10:54:12 PM EST – Like – Reply

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Ira
Johnny: You need to revise the survey on the right of the screen:
 
Who is the bigger idiot?
 
A. John Edwards
B. Dennis Kucinich
C. Tom
March 9, 2007, 11:52:59 PM EST – Like – Reply

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johnny dollar
Thanks for the idea, but I have what I think is a more provocative idea for the next survey.
March 10, 2007, 12:35:49 AM EST – Like – Reply

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Tom
LOL. Hey Johnny, drop the propaganda already. Conservatives are ADMITTING Fox is biased:
 
"I know I'm not supposed to admit this, but "fair and balanced" aside I do think Fox News leans right, as CNN leans left. Let's just be honest about it and adopt the brutally honest British model of press partisanship."
 
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/678b8c1f-b167-4c41-8b1f-2046bd21b5bb
 
LOL YOu can't even convince OTHER Republicans of your lies.
March 10, 2007, 10:20:47 AM EST – Like – Reply

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Fox Fan
After hundreds of lies about Fox being conservative get debunked, all it takes to convince Tom is one guy I've never even heard of to say they are. Oooh, proof positive!
 
For some reason, I think his mind was made up before his trainers sent him here with that link.
March 10, 2007, 10:39:33 AM EST – Like – Reply

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Tom
You've never debunked any Media Matters study pointing out that the overwhelming majority of guests on the O'Reilly Facotr and H&C are Republicans and conservatives. And no, it's not just ONE, Republican. Most Republicans aren't actually stupid enough to believe Fox is biased. You are part of a pathetic minority that has deluded itself into honestly believing it.
 
Here's another who admits that Fox "tilts right":
 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/10/crazy_like_a_fox_news.html
March 10, 2007, 11:21:12 AM EST – Like – Reply

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Tom
^Most Republicans aren't stupid enough to believe that Fox ISN'T biased.
 
You need an edit button for these threads.
March 10, 2007, 11:22:11 AM EST – Like – Reply

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JohnE
And most Republicans aren't afraid to apprear on a network that tilts one way or another... unlike the Dems and their nutroots puppet-masters.
March 10, 2007, 11:45:36 AM EST – Like – Reply

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Fox Fan
"Most Republicans aren't actually stupid enough to believe Fox is biased. You are part of a pathetic minority that has deluded itself into honestly believing it."
 
If you believe that, you haven't been around the internet much. The few republicans you can dig up who think Fox is biased are far outnumbered by the many I could dig up that recognize Fox's fair and balanced nature. As opposed to the heavy tilt carried by most of the MSM that you would call "moderate". We already know that MM is your "moderate" "trusted" "source" of "truth".
 
They report, we decide. That's the entire point. Some republicans will opine that Fox News tilts right. Some democrats will say that MSNBC and CNN tilt left. Contrary to what you claim, a large majority of republicans and many moderates believe Fox is fair.
 
From the UCLA study that found most of the MSM tilts far left:
 
http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/page.asp?RelNum=6664
"Five news outlets — "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," ABC's "Good Morning America," CNN's "NewsNight With Aaron Brown," Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and the Drudge Report — were in a statistical dead heat in the race for the most centrist news outlet. Of the print media, USA Today was the most centrist."
 
Brit Hume had the farthest right score on Fox in the study, and he's tied for most centrist on the air.
March 10, 2007, 2:24:50 PM EST – Like – Reply

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Tom
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March 10, 2007, 8:34:51 PM EST – Like – Reply

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Tom
"Contrary to what you claim, a large majority of republicans and many moderates believe Fox is fair."
 
I don't care how many Republicans believe Fox is fair. Most Republicans believe that Rick Santorum is a "moderate". I.e., most Republicans are deluded, ideologically fanatical children. So to say that most Republicans think Fox is "fair" goes without saying. Most moderates, independents and Democrats do not. The majority does not. There are 300 million people in this country, and there is nothing more pathetic than seeing Republicans claim Fox must be "fair" because they have 2 million viewers a day.
 
Can you divide, little Republican?
 
Idiots. Fox could have 50 million viewers and that still wouldn't prove that Fox was "fair". Ratings prove nothing. A breakdown of the guest list and of the ideology of the anchors proves everything, and Fox News is stacked with Republican anchors and Republican guests.
 
If you're too blind to see that, that's your problem. It's time to grow up, because even some Republicans aren't buying your BS, Johnny.
 
And by the way, it's not a surprise that "some" Democrats would claim that MSNBC tilts left. Democrats don't make it their mission to defend the media. Republicans make it their mission to defend Fox News all the time. So when they finally start admitting it's biased, it's a lot more relevant.
 
Political conservatives who editorialize conservativism on their shows on MSNBC: 2
 
Political liberals who editorialize liberalism on their own shows on Fox:
 
0
 
YOu like to tape everything Fox does, so here's an idea. Find audio or video of Greta Van Sustren, the alleged "Democrat" on Fox, making a partisan statement or editorializing for the Dems.
 
Guarantee you won't.
March 10, 2007, 8:56:00 PM EST – Like – Reply

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Ira
That study was bebunked , 
 
By who? David Brock?
 
The former conservative, then liberal, former straight, now gay.
 
Who will Brock be next? Transvestite?
 
Brock has no conscience, no shame, he just sells himself to the highest bidder which is now George Soros.
 
With his sad chameleon life, Brock also has lost all credibility.
 
Just like somebody named Tom who posts around here.
March 10, 2007, 8:57:30 PM EST – Like – Reply

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Fox Fan
Why does Tom lack the ability to post without resorting to name-calling in every other sentence?
 
The answer is obvious.
March 10, 2007, 9:58:11 PM EST – Like – Reply

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Bob Ross
This David Brock character seems like someone the right could really embrace like Matt Sanchez/Rod Majors and Jeff Gannon/Guckert...
 
Btw Johnny for some reason johnnydollar.us doesn't redirect me anymore.
 
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The former conservative, then liberal, former straight, now gay.
 
Who will Brock be next? Transvestite?
 
Brock has no conscience, no shame, he just sells himself to the highest bidder which is now George Soros.
 
With his sad chameleon life, Brock also has lost all credibility.
 
Just like somebody named Tom who posts around here.
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March 11, 2007, 3:11:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Tom
"Brock has no conscience, no shame, he just sells himself to the highest bidder which is now George Soros."
 
Oh, I see, so when Democrats criticize people who switch to the GOP, we're "fanatics", but I suppose you're not a fanatic for criticizing David Brock for switching sides, right?
 
Hypocritical garbage, standard Republican trash. You're angry because he left your party. Big deal. At least Brock doesn't PRETEND to be a Republican anymore, which is more than you can say for people like Tammy Bruce and Pat Caddell who PRETEND to be Democrats so they can pretend that their potshots aren't partisan. At least Brock had the balls to throw his cards down on the table and let you know where he stands now. He's a liberal Democrat.
 
Notice the difference? Brock can admit his new political affiliation. Fox News channel "Democrats" like Bruce and Caddell can't. Because, at heart, conservatives have to rely on lies in order to wage a debate.
 
And, by the way, what does Brock being a homosexual have to do with anything? Get over it. Ignorant bigots.
March 11, 2007, 7:21:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Puck
So somehow the 'The Mutts via Tom have said 8 names working at FNC and called it an overwhelming majority work at FNC. How many people work at FNC all told. Ten?
 
Wait last time the mutts via Tom gave ten names. What happen? two people quit?
 
Gee I've met Kocinich, he's about as far left as you want to get. But you know you can sit down and talk with him.
 
Go ahead! If your in Washington or Cleveland and you run into him. He will give you the time of day. Nutroot? Yes! Stand up guy? Yes!
 
Opps! Kocinich, far left guy talking to me, an independent. In the mutts and Tom's eyes must make him a Republican.
 
You know I have a better time teeing off on the mutts and Tom then I do at the driving range.
March 11, 2007, 9:33:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Ira
Wow Tom, what a spirited defense of David Brock.
 
Now tell the truth Tom, are you attracted to David Brock?
March 11, 2007, 11:59:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Bob Ross
Okay Ira you're traveling into Matt Sanchez & Jeff Gannon territory please let me know when you find some light at the end of that tunnel.
March 12, 2007, 5:54:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Ira
Maybe Matt Sanchez is a big name on lefty blogs but thruth be told, I never heard of him.
 
And are you guys still on the Jeff Gannon kick?
 
Geez!
March 12, 2007, 7:13:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Bob Ross
Ira,
 
Who is you guys? That's almost like when the white man would say "you people". Please refrain from the collective labeling Ira.
 
Remember you were the one having the fixation with David Brock I just pointed you in the direction of two darlings of the conservative world who just so happened to be Male hookers
March 14, 2007, 12:12:42 AM EDT – Like – Reply

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