'You Want Dirt? You Got Dirt!'

posted: Sat - March 10, 2007 at 11:42 AM       j$p  send 

Fox Fan
She sounds like the kind of person you'd want to keep away from children. And guns. There are safe places for people like her.
March 10, 2007, 3:20:45 PM EST – Like – Reply

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TC@LeatherPenguin
Kos is a "sellout"?
SHE'S SAYING THIS TO FOX?
 
(sits back, makes popcorn)
March 10, 2007, 6:53:06 PM EST – Like – Reply

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average american patriot
YAAAAAWWWWWWwwwwwN!
 
Another non-story.
 
Wake me up when Rudy becomes a "Real Repignicant"
March 11, 2007, 3:52:12 AM EDT – Like – Reply

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Puck
Oh No! Maryscott O' Connor is talking to Conservative ( Use to be a big lib.) John Gibson?
 
According to some people on this site that must make her a Republican!!!
March 11, 2007, 9:15:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Bob Ross
Are you talking about yourself there Puck? I have seem this argument made by seeming conservatives as well when say people who worked for the administration coming out and telling about the mistakes and scandals this administration has created. Say for instance, Richard Clarke, Paul O'Neil, etc coming out afterwards and people painting them as democrat plants.
 
Isn't this much like your Clinton the Liberal theory where you came back saying Clinton knew how to look liberal with his Don't Ask Don't Tell policy?
March 11, 2007, 10:55:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Puck
Where I said 'Clinton knew how to look liberal....'
 
Bob can you show me on this blog where I said that? Could you point that quote out to me?
 
If I do remember I said 'Clinton knew how to walk that line'.
 
Bob I think you misquoted me.
 
Hey! What did Sandy Berger do when he took stole those papers? Did he run out of toliet paper?
 
Clark and O'Neil were great to bash the president when they had books comming out, thats what I took it from.
 
Plus my post was a joke for somebody that runs somebody's water.
 
But after this weekend I can see where certain people from certain parties have trouble with jokes.
 
Even Obama said Ailes joke was no big deal.
 
Unlike some people i use to listen to a big lib show 'Bitner & Bitner' and John Gibson was a guest host when they were off. John Gibson in the days when he was a big lib.
 
Let me get this straight, from now on do we have to explain word for word what we mean in jokes for you folks?
 
Don't hold your breath cause that ain't happening.
 
Oh and by the way for the last time unless you think as I guess you do because you can guess what I am. I must be a Conservative since....how did you say it Bob?.....I have seen the argument made by some liberals that if your a centimeter to the right of Mao Se Tung you must be a far right wing, FNC watching, Abortion clinic bombing, Conservative.
 
And believe Bob, I've heard and seen people on your side say that. Just show up at any anti- code pink- war demonstration. I have!!! And correct me Bob if I'm wrong but, that crew does hang out in your big tent.
 
Here Bob let me help you out. I have things sent to me from www.lewrockwell.com
Bob I want you to check out who contributes to www.lewrockwell.com
And then I want you to come back and tell everybody on this site about the far right wing people that post there.
 
Open your mind!!!!!!!
March 12, 2007, 2:45:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Bob Ross
Puck... or should I say Morpheus?
 
I'll quote you from the Substantial confusion thread at 6:26 pm on march 7th
 
"Now Clinton the Liberal? That ol boy knew how to walk that line and play too the right crowd at the right time.
Remember when he signed Newt's welfare reform into law? Not many libs were happy about that! Gays in the Military? Yeah, the far right was in a tizzy over that one. MAybe in his bones he was liberal"
 
Now he knew how to walk that line and play to the right crowd? Isn't that what you claimed in the previous quote?
 
How could the far right not be happy about Clinton's horrible military policy? Gays were probably in the military already closeted as they still are in the military closeted. Clinton's policy changed nothing and was not even close to being "liberal".
 
Couldn't we say the same thing about the Swift Boat vets for truth? They had a lot to say when they had something "to gain". Do you think its the same case with those speaking out about Walter Reed? How about the FBI breaking the patriot act? Or the former Generals coming out against the war? How many of them do you think have a book coming out?
 
What was that slogan... "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me."
 
How many people have to come out saying that same thing about rank corruption and utter mismanagement at the highest echelons of this administration before you start picking up on the pattern?
 
Who ever mentioned Ailles joke puck? Fox's own london bureau chief said that Fox was sympathetic towards the bush administration and republicans. Besides its clear where Ailles priorities were when during Bush Sr's run for presidency he asked the question: All we have to decide is whether "Willie Horton should have a knife or a gun"
 
Ailles was a spinmaster for Bush Sr. and still is a spinmaster for Jr.
 
Again Puck I ask you why you find it some convenient to label people by saying you people or your side. Where have I said where I stand on Social and Economical issues for you to even make a determination if I am liberal/moderate/conservative?
 
You shouldn't rush to judgment like you do it creates too many fallacies in your own logic when you make improper assumptions based on your lack of imperical data.
 
What the puck are you saying here about opening one's mind? You're the one who has already done collective labeling. It seems like you are the one with the closed mind if you have already determined "what side" I'm on.
March 12, 2007, 5:53:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Puck
Johnny forgive me. I'm gona Bloviate!!
 
Oh please Bob!!!!!
 
You said I said, 'Clinton knew how to look liberal with his don't ask don't tell policy.'
 
Still haven't seen where you said I said THAT QUOTE!
 
Or are you just Cherry-picking because your baking a pie later?
 
Because only Liberals and bakers cherry pick and your no liberal right Bob?
 
so guess what you just bloviated for nothing.
 
Go twist some fifth graders words.
 
I said Clinton knew how to walk that line.
 
Welfare reform? was that a big lib deal? don't think so was it?
 
I bet Maryscott O'Conner was just over joyed by that!
 
First two things out of the box for the old boy. Don't ask don't tell.Who was he that talkin' about Bob? The Irish? Don't start I Am! Maybe nothing got done but there sure was a whole lot of talkin' about it? Get the picture? Number 2 raise taxes and he threw some retroactive thing in.
 
I'm sure that made him and Newt fast buddies at the t&a bar.
 
Oh Sorry Bob, Newt had an affair, Clinton it was just sex. Besides Hillary was down with Monica going down. Tell us all about social values Bob. This should be a hoot.
 
I said MAYBE in his bones he was liberal. I didn't, but I can fill a Boatload of College Football Stadiums with people that have. Want me to go get em'?
 
There you go son he knew how to walk the line!
 
Thats playin' to both sides at the right time.
 
And I even threw in Maryscott O'Conner's name just to keep it on subject. Didn't you LISTEN to Gibson Bob? Go back and LISTEN again!
 
Richard Clark did have a book come at that time didn't he? And O'Neil, Johnny correct me but. Wasn't O'Neil the darling of the Lib sect. until on the Today Show when he said he would vote for Pres. Bush again? Yeah! After that it was, Where's O'Neil? And let's just go for the trifecta. Joe Wilson said on Mark Samone's radio show that it was he that leaked his own wifes name to Armitage.( Go to Mark Samone's website if Johnny didn't tape it.)
 
But I'm not saying your a liberal Bob.
 
Six Generals? Big Lib talking point in the day!( How many Generals are there in the military? Total Bob?) They knew better then everybody! Where you work Bob, is everybody on the same page? Not at my place. Always got those know it alls eh? and if it's a Union Shop? FORGETABOUTIT!!
 
But I'm not saying your liberal Bob.
 
Walter Reed? Go to Washington Journal 3-9-07 on c-span.org, 2nd hour, Pamela Hess with that evil conservative Brian Lamb. She will give a great answer. I would tell you where it is but watch the whole interview and open you're mind!!! You will learn some things about Iraq TODAY!
 
But I'm not saying your a Liberal Bob.
 
Bob, Fox's own London bureau chief? Ah Bob? Name please? (favorite liberal trick isn't that Bob?) It seems that you love to label me as a conservative, but didn't you visit lewrockwell.com?
 
Anti-state, anti-war, pro-market?
 
Far Right wing site ain't it BOB! Got something sent
March 13, 2007, 12:46:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Puck
Bob half of my post got cut off but you get the point.
March 13, 2007, 12:48:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Kos a centrist?
 
Personally, I thought he was just ego-centric.
 
But who knew?!
March 13, 2007, 4:10:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Bob Ross
Puck wow do you know how to misread. You stated Clinton knew how to walk the walk of the liberal after i asked you to show where he was liberal. You talked about how the right was in a tizzy over his gays in the military policy. Apparently you didn't get the sarcasm in my previous post because what you stated about Clinton and Gays in the military was hardly a liberal policy. What was really different between the Clinton gays in the military policy and the policy that already existed? Don't ask don't tell actually did the same thing that the military did before. Allowed the removal of gays from the military if they came out. So how was this policy of Clinton's liberal? How did he walk the walk of the liberal you have yet to show a real example.
 
Who is cherry picking here puck? I made it quite clear what I meant in my post its not my fault you couldn't interpret it. Last cherry picker I knew blamed cherry picking on "faulty intel"
 
How was O'Neill the darling of the liberal sect? What would you qualify as a liberal sect there Puck? See that's you're problem. You're so quick to label people without looking at your own implications of such quick judgment.
 
Who is mark samone? Do you mean Mark Simone? Funny I'm not finding this interview where Joe Wilson "outed" his wife.
 
Thus far you were 0 for 2 with your previous statements on Joe Wilson. If you're going to state implicitly something at least do your research. You were previously wrong about the neighbors and the whose who entry.
 
Why is it no one seems to have the transcripts or a full audio from that interview? I had no luck finding such an interview maybe you can as you are the source of this information.
 
So are you saying Reagan was also a liberal as well Puck as he raised taxes multiple times throughout his tenure? Was Bush Sr. also a liberal? How does raising taxes make one a liberal? Even Reagan had the decency to try to fix his trickle down ecomonics screw up. Thats called effective management.
 
Again puck i think you missed the part where you were supposed to make the point about Don't Ask Don't tell. How is that policy Liberal? If it was liberal don't you think it wouldn't matter? Don't ask don't tell essentially recycles the old policy. If a closeted gay person comes out they get kicked out. So how did that policy change things for gays serving in the military? Gays were probably already serving in the military, were before Clinton during and after Clinton so again I ask how was that policy a liberal policy?
 
If you're saying Clinton knew how to walk the liberal line and then walked the conservative line doesn't that fall more in line with what I said about Clinton being more of a moderate?
 
Its not just six generals you got generals who used to be big policy makers as well telling the American people that the current plan has failed and isn't going to work. But you must remember most of the current administration
March 14, 2007, 12:09:31 AM EDT – Like – Reply

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Bob Ross
But you must remember most of the current administration never served and so they had no experience to learn from history.
 
btw Scott Norvell is the London Bureau Chief. He let that line slip out on May 20th in the Wall Street Journal, hardly a bastion for Liberal thinking?
 
Puck ive watched you meander on for 2 days now without having a point. Other than to try to make an assumption of where I fit in once again you don't have enough data to even make your judgment.
March 14, 2007, 12:10:08 AM EDT – Like – Reply

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Fox Fan
I hate to break it to you Bob, but when you bend over backwards in every post to defend liberals and attack conservatives you come off as slightly left of center. You don't need to pretend like we don't know which side of the aisle you're tossing stink bombs from.
March 14, 2007, 7:15:11 AM EDT – Like – Reply

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Bob Ross
Fox Fan stop being such a partisan hack here. Which liberals am I defending? You paint with such an awfully big brush there that I bet you haven't even read all the posts I've put on this site. I've tried more often than not to try to balance out any inaccuracies people have responded to me with. Puck has yet to back up any of the false statements he has thus made.
 
Fox once again if you're going to make such an empirical statements at least back it up with data. Once again which Liberals am I supposedly defending here?
March 16, 2007, 5:22:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Fox Fan
I have read every single sentence you've written on this site, Bob. If I copied and pasted every one of them into a post and put a +1 to every pro-liberal one and a -1 to every pro-conservative one I'd have a big positive number.
 
This is not an "empirical statement", it is a provable fact. If anyone is interested in the proof, scroll up. For further evidence, peruse the comments of other articles here.
March 16, 2007, 8:12:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Bob Ross
You wouldn't know the difference between emperical knowledge or factual information if it hit you square on the head. I asked you to prove your statement and you come back with such generic rhetoric.
 
I asked you directly which liberals I am defending here if you're too lazy to prove your own point then I guess there's no reason to even carry on the conversation. You have proven yourself a total partisan hack thus far if you want to continue showing yourself as such you will continue to make such generic statements without proof like the one above.
March 18, 2007, 4:17:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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johnny dollar
All sides please watch the name-calling. Personal attacks are not necessary.
March 18, 2007, 5:13:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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Bob Ross
Sorry Johnny. I like people to actually prove their points instead of flat out telling me I'm something and doing labeling without being able to prove it. Not a good way to welcome someone to the site
March 21, 2007, 9:14:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply

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