A Lie Too Brazen To Ignore
After exposing another newshound lie last night, we thought we were through with them for a while. But when it comes to smearing Fox News, they never sleep. When we saw what they're trying to pull this morning, there was no way we could let it pass without comment:
Greta Van Susteren Helps Hillary Appeal To The Super Delegates And Coincidentally Tear Down ObamaLet's first dispense with the sneering mini-lie that On the Record is "restricted" to non-political stories. What about the interviews with George Bush, Laura Bush, Al Sharpton, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, and John McCain? Nightly coverage of the election is the rule rather than the exception, so much so that on Greta's blog there are regular complaints about too much politics.
Greta Van Susteren, who usually restricts her show, On The Record, to lost cruise passengers and murdered blondes, joined the FOX News meme of tearing down Barack Obama last night (5/13/08) during what was ostensibly a “fair and balanced” discussion about the results of the West Virginia primary. Her only guest was none other than Karl Rove, Republican partisan extraordinaire.
Ellen wants people to think Greta's coverage was not "fair and balanced" because "her only guest" was Rove, a "Republican partisan extraordinaire". That was enough to convince the gullible kennel-dwellers:
- There was a day when I had respect for Greta. There seemed to be a day when she had more respect for herself.
- I liked her better in "Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS."
- The interview was disgraceful. A true low for FOX.
- Good thing no one cares what Frankenstein's daughter thinks and no one takes her seriously
- I was really shock [sic] to hear that Greta is married to a man. I really thought she was gay.
But wait, there's more. After Susan Estrich came Juan Williams, commentator for National Public Radio.
Oh, one more thing. Two, actually. Greta's election coverage continued with Jeff Mapes of the Oregonian, and Joe Gerth of the Louisville Courier-Journal.
Ellen said nothing about any of these people, what they were asked, what they said, or the content of their analysis. She's playing the "invisible man" trick again, trying to making four people disappear with a sleazy, transparent fabrication. Greta's "only guest" was the Republican partisan Rove? Another Hound Lie. fox news nh
Cecelia
Johnny,
It's the same mentality of Keith Olbermann and many on the left.
They don't like people on the right being included in program PERIOD. One Republican or one conservative view being aired is tantamount to holding a conservative pep rally, as far as they are concerned, let alone asking for an opinion from a Karl Rove.
These geniuses hold Juan and Susan suspect simply because they work for Fox News. That thinking is part of the relentless Catch 22 they use in lieu of argument. FNC should include liberals/ liberals who work for FNC are weak compromised. FNC shows should include both sides/liberal guests aren't treated fairly by FNC hosts.
Even their caveats have caveats...
The News Hounds and company aren't against partisan one-sided cable news networks as long as they are DNC TV 24/7.
May 14, 2008, 11:23:12 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
It's beyond just an irrational opposition to liberals who work for Fox. It's almost a fear. They are so worried that Fox might appear fair and balanced that they have to concoct a LIE about Rove being the "only guest" and not even mention anyone else, for fear that the truth might not back up their lie.
May 14, 2008, 11:46:11 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
This comment struck me as one of the most vicious I've ever seen especially in the context of if Greta's ersatz infraction was true:
"I liked her better in "Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS." "
What kind of putrefying sick mind not only makes this connection but will publish it?
Thank goodness the commenter is a liberal tolerant progressive or God knows how far she/he would have gone.
May 14, 2008, 11:48:37 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Grammie,
The heinous and obligatory Nazi comparison was made as well as the equally heinous and obligatory backhanded insult via a reference to her sexuality.
Never let it be said that many leftists aren't willing to compromise any principle for "the cause"...
May 14, 2008, 11:58:30 AM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
"I liked her better in "Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS."
I'm not going to defend every liberal rhetorical excess,but this was obviously intended as humor,albiet in bad taste.
May 14, 2008, 12:13:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ellen
First of all, when I said "only guest," I meant for the segment. Secondly, the point of the post was about Van Susteren's biased questions which you have not disputed. As usual, you try to distract from the substance of what we say in order to play some "gotcha" game over the trivialities. Lastly, I notice you did not include video or transcripts from those other interviews that supposedly balance out the baised interview with Rove.
As I think my post made clear, it was Van Susteren's bias that shocked me... to the point that, as I wrote, she made Rove look neutral. What a coincidence that she should happen to fall in line with the rest of the FOX News meme that gets displayed every night.
That Rove interview, by the way, is featured prominently on the On The Record website and does not refer to those other interviews that you reference.
May 14, 2008, 12:14:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
That this was "intended as humor" is probably the strongest indictment you could issue against the writer, nvh.
May 14, 2008, 12:15:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ellen
FYI, I meant the OTR website does not refer to those other interviews you reference that supposedly balanced Rove.
I guess they just don't have the same weight at FNC.
May 14, 2008, 12:16:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
I'm not going to defend every liberal rhetorical excess,but this was obviously intended as humor,albiet in bad taste.
notveryhow | 05.14.08 - 12:18 pm | #
Oh, you won't defend "every" one, but, you'll defend that one? I get it, now....
May 14, 2008, 12:17:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> First of all, when I said "only guest," I meant for the segment.
You said Greta discussed the primary, and her ONLY guest was Republican partisan Karl Rove. You didn't say her "first guest", you didn't say her only guest in this segment. You said her "only guest". Period.
From what you state here, it sounds like you didn't watch Greta at all. You just spotted a video clip, posted it, and decided to toss in the fiction that this was Greta's only guest, as proof that the coverage was not fair and balanced. Do I have this right?
I mean, just yesterday we had Deborah lying about Megyn Kelly to smear her, and now this. Please convince me that it's all a big misunderstanding.
May 14, 2008, 12:26:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Cecelia | 05.14.08 - 12:20 pm |
Why is that?I don't think the writer was seriously trying to draw any parallels with Nazis,as I've seen numerous times with "Hitlery".It may have been low-browed,but ,again,I don't think it was intended to be taken that seriously.I know a man who claimed that "Ilsa,she-wolf of the SS" was coming to his bachelor party.
May 14, 2008, 12:26:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ttc
Also conveniently not mentioned was a tape of Obama that Greta played during the Rove interview.
To be "fair and balanced" to both Dems and because Obama did not give a concession speech after West Virginia, Greta followed a clip of Hillary's victory speech with a clip of Obama from earlier in the day.
Arguably, Obama came off much better in the battle of video clips; Hillary looked tired and seem to lack some enthusiasm in her "victory" remarks.
Any regular viewer of "On The Record" knows that accusing Greta of being biased, either to the Republicans or to Hillary is absurd.
May 14, 2008, 12:33:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
"I'm not going to defend every liberal rhetorical excess,but this was obviously intended as humor,albiet in bad taste.
notveryhow | 05.14.08 - 12:18 pm | # "
Perhaps you missed the full scope of humour on display:
"I liked her better in "Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS." Especially when she pissed on that kraut.
bugler | 05.14.08 - 3:35 am | # "
"Gen Escape Goat- Old Style Dry | Homepage | 05.14.08 - 3:37 am | #
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http://www.horror-movies.ca/albu...s/ Ilsa_Wolf.jpg
bugler | 05.14.08 - 3:39 am | # "
Take a peek at the URL to get the full flavor of the fun and frivolity of the jocular lovable duo.
Let me rephrase what I said.
What kind of putrefying sick mind not only makes this connection but will make a joke about it?
Thank goodness the jokesters are liberal tolerant progressive or God knows how far she/he would have gone.
I don't want to upset your prejudice re conservatives/me that we are all humourless dumb asses but I really didn't think that they meant it literally.
I stand by my original assessment that that is the product of a putrefying sick mind. No healthy mind with even a cursorsy knowledge of the Holocaust and its perpretrators would use that as a joke.
I say this especially b/c I have been feeling guilty since Blue brought up a video referenced at NH that I found amusing without thinking it through and understand that there are millions of people in the world who are at most one degree of separation from the horror of it.
I'm sorry Blue and everyone else. One would think that I had lived long enough by now to not lose my bearings in that way.
May 14, 2008, 12:41:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Interesting argument, nvh, but you were better reasoned as the dissembling Nazi character in Apt Pupil...
Let me gently suggest that a nazi reference to someone to an specified person is not quite the same as terming person as such.
BTW-- your eyes are as blue as Adolph Hitler's.
Yer welcome...
May 14, 2008, 12:44:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Just back from watching the video of Greta and Rove at her site.
If anyone wants to see how pejoratively Greta framed up Greta's questions, I suggest they go watch too.
May 14, 2008, 12:46:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Grammie | 05.14.08 - 12:46 pm |
Some are sicker than others.I didn't look at the video link,it wasn't important to me.
"video referenced at NH that I found amusing"
I'm curious.Was that the O'Reilly as Hitler video?If you really found that offensive,then what do you make of "Springtime for Hitler".
May 14, 2008, 12:48:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Oops... a reference to a vague entity (possibly pretend, who knows if they guy had ANY women at his party) is different from making such a pejorative reference to a specific person.
May 14, 2008, 12:49:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Greta is an important part of the mix at Fox. Interviewers have distinct personalities. O'Reilly challenges and confronts. Hannity ticks off lists of stuff. Colmes asks leading questions. Olbermann, since he only interviews people who agree with him, serves as a human mic stand, just accepting what he hears.
Greta does not argue with people. She is there to let the guest get their views across. She will hone in with lawyer-like, precise questions to nail things down but you won't often find her taking positions for or against a guest. It's not her modus operandi, whether she's talking to Karl Rove, Susan Estrich, or Al Sharpton.
May 14, 2008, 12:52:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Missy
"Good thing no one cares what Frankenstein's daughter thinks and no one takes her seriously
I was really shock [sic] to hear that Greta is married to a man. I really thought she was gay."
All right, Ellen. What was the reason for the above? Greta may not be a beauty queen, but she's not the worst looking woman in the world, by far.
And why should a person's looks be part of your story? You were just being cruel, IMO.
May 14, 2008, 12:53:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Those insightful observations were courtesy of the commenters who believed what Ellen wrote. So she is not responsible for writing them, only for approving them and permitting them to grace her intellectual website.
May 14, 2008, 12:55:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
nvh, a more accurate analogy would be to ask if we would find "Springtime for Hitler" humorous if the lead actor wore an Keith Olbermann mask
No.
May 14, 2008, 12:58:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Cecelia | 05.14.08 - 12:54 pm |
Yhen you must be really horrified by "Hitlery",which I've seen more times than I can count.
I grow quite weary of references to "Nazi" Republicans or Fascist Democrats.Thinking people know that's BS.
As for the Bill parody,it was much more a reference to facial expressions than to politics.I've seen a photo montage of Hitler practicing in a mirror,and the resemblence was freaky.But "there's no accounting for taste".Some people don't care for Mel Brooks.
May 14, 2008, 1:03:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Well, Johnny, there is a certain delicious irony in Ellen's criticizing a FNC employee specifically because of her "ties" to the Clintons... :D
May 14, 2008, 1:05:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
When Mel Brooks does a movie or even a puppet theater .... and casts Hitler wearing the face of a contemporary that he (Brooks) detests, we'll view that as being something more than larkish humor too, my friend...
May 14, 2008, 1:09:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
I advise everyone to go and see the video of Greta and Rove at Greta's site.
It's quite different from the way Ellen characterized it.
May 14, 2008, 1:11:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> there is a certain delicious irony in Ellen's criticizing a FNC employee specifically because of her "ties" to the Clintons
Oh man, tell me about it! For years they've been spinning the line that Fox is nothing but GOP propaganda, and so Greta and her program were all but invisible on their website. There was one famous exception, where Deborah (again!) got caught in a humungous lie:
http://johnnydollar.us/2004a/C1049953760/E841384702/index.html
That was one of the flaps that got my comments there banned.
May 14, 2008, 1:12:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Cecelia | 05.14.08 - 1:14 pm |
This is really a very silly argument.Even watching the clip with the sound off was funny to me,the facial expressions were priceless.ANYBODY making those facial expressions of barely contained rage would look funny,be it O'Reilly or Bill Clinton.I mean,the neck taut and the viens bulging.But,"there's no accounting for taste".
May 14, 2008, 1:19:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Yeah, Hitler was a scream.
May 14, 2008, 1:22:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
"Hitler has been the subject of gags in the Anglophone world for some time, in films such as The Producers, but not in Germany. Mein Fuhrer, The Truly Truest Truth about Adolf Hitler portrays him as a bumbling dictator in the last days of the war, forced to hire a fictional Jewish actor from a concentration camp to teach him how to make an uplifting speech that he hopes will rally Germany."
The entire article is here and briefly explores the dichotomy.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1577614,00.html
I didn't see that movie but I have seen a much older movie with Mel Brooks named "To Be or Not To Be" which is about a Jewish troupe booked in Vienna when the Nazis take over. As far as I know there was not any controversy about it and the movie was very funny. Also the academy award winner a few years back treated a horrendous subject in a warm and funny way. These were generic movies with no tie to or purpose to hang the qualities of Naziism around a particular persons or group's neck other than real Nazis, which is NOT what happened today and to a lesser degree yesterday at NH.
In these cases Naziism, Hitler and Death Camp personnas are pinned on two people with absolutely no basis and God only knows why other than an unreasonable hatred of people who don't march in lockstep with them.
May 14, 2008, 1:27:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
In these cases Naziism, Hitler and Death Camp personnas are pinned on two people with absolutely no basis and God only knows why other than an unreasonable hatred of people who don't march in lockstep with them.
Grammie | 05.14.08 - 1:32 pm | #
Some people find that sort thing the cheapest of cheap shots, Grammie, and evidently...some don't.
There's no accounting for taste...
May 14, 2008, 1:32:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
Grammie | 05.14.08 - 1:32 pm |
You know,I really didn't see this as an attempt to connect O'Reilly with Nazism or Hitler.I saw it as a joke.But,whatever.
I think we can all agree that calling Clinton Hitlery,or refering to Bush as Mien Fuhrer,is historically absurd and beyond the pale.
May 14, 2008, 1:33:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Grammie, you need to see the original To Be or Not to Be with Jack Benny. Absolutely one of the funniest movies ever. OK, back to the topic!
May 14, 2008, 1:35:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
It's quite different from the way Ellen characterized it.
Cecelia | 05.14.08 - 1:16 pm | #
Shocker!
May 14, 2008, 2:46:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
Is it me, or are the NH personal attacks on female Fox personalities escalating? Just a coincidence or more of an agenda that is designed to demean and diminish these ladies. Part of a plan because FoxNews is known for it's bright, attractive on air talent. I would not put it past this bunch.
May 14, 2008, 3:40:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
It's been a while since I've done one of these, but in the past I have put together quizzes. I'd repeat some vile, personal smear and then the reader has to guess which Fox personality the hounds were attacking. Maybe I should work up another one!
May 14, 2008, 3:50:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
Fox is flinging its slings and arrows at the new pastor of Trinity, the Reverend Otis Moss III
"reported" by prissy
Not a minute too soon!
May 14, 2008, 4:31:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Johnny,
When you referred to News Hounds as being part of the "Outfoxed" cabal or gang, do you mean they are a part of some larger group?
May 14, 2008, 5:16:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
The hounds were the people who were involved in putting together the Outfoxed video by doing "research" (i.e. looking for little snippets they could take out of context and clip for effect). One of the producers of Outfoxed is Jim Gilliam, who is also aligned with Robert "Xanadu" Greenwald, the auteur of Outfoxed. Gilliam is the moneybags behind the newshounds. He bought the domain, paid for the registration, and keeps the site afloat with needed cash when necessary.
May 14, 2008, 5:29:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Good lord! I suppose the losses with Xanadu is what has kept them from hiring smarter "News Hounds"...
May 14, 2008, 6:12:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
tony
I always wonder, do nuts like the regulars on Newshounds really believe their lies? In other words, do they know that what they say is not true, but their hatred is so strong that they justify it? Or are they psychotic and actually believe their insane thoughts to be true?
May 14, 2008, 6:25:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
tony | 05.14.08 - 6:30 pm |
Now there are a lot of things said by a lot of different people,including myself.,so a generalization like yours above doesn't ring true.Is it the ad hominem attacks that bother you?
And I work with "psychotics" and "nuts",and even they have some lucid moments.
May 14, 2008, 6:42:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
Did the pound ever admit they were wrong about Fox being th only ones to run the campaign ticker during commercials? Money well spent........
May 14, 2008, 6:46:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
And I work with "psychotics" and "nuts",and even they have some lucid moments.
notveryhow | 05.14.08 - 6:47 pm | #
Why didn't you tell us you were part of the NH staff?
May 14, 2008, 6:49:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
notveryhow
olby sucks | Homepage | 05.14.08 - 6:51 pm
What I saw was Fox was using about a third of the screen (I didn't measure it)while MSNBC was using just one line at the bottom of the screen. The way I see it is that it's between fox and it's advertisers,and it was a weak topic.
May 14, 2008, 6:54:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
and it was a weak topic.
notveryhow | 05.14.08 - 6:59 pm | #
Agreed.
May 14, 2008, 6:58:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
tony
Did the pound ever admit they were wrong about Fox being th only ones to run the campaign ticker during commercials? Money well spent........
olby sucks | Homepage | 05.14.08 - 6:51 pm | #
Olby: i think you mean did they admit their lie. But either way Im sure that they didnt. And I noticed that MSNBC was running the ticker during their commercials, but its Ok as long as its not Fox.
May 14, 2008, 6:59:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
tony
Now there are a lot of things said by a lot of different people,including myself.,so a generalization like yours above doesn't ring true.Is it the ad hominem attacks that bother you?
And I work with "psychotics" and "nuts",and even they have some lucid moments.
notveryhow | 05.14.08 - 6:47 pm | #
No, it is not the "ad hominem attacks" that bother me. It is the out and out lies that bothers me.
May 14, 2008, 7:02:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Tony,
I think you should just go with nvh's inestimable defense of the Hounds in the statement that even nuts and psychotic people have some lucid moments... :D
I don't think you could do much sweeter than that.
May 14, 2008, 7:17:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
tony
cec: Good point. When you are right, you are right.
May 14, 2008, 8:00:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Back from Little League and ready to put my 2 cents in.
The general tone is very disturbing to me. I'm not a shrinking violet but virtually all of the posters use ad hominems and at the least a very nasty tone right off the bat. I haven't seen much reasonable discourse or back and forth with anyone who is not their ideological twin.
I have also had my citations to material that blows there theory out of the water totally erased and then accused of never having presented it. That doesn't sit too well with me either.
Something that I saw today from Pegleg Peg really surprised me b/c she had seemed reasonable and open minded. As best I can remember she wanted K Rove beaten, dragged behind a truck and then dressed in curly girly clothes and thrown in a cell with the meanest MFers in the world which led to much joking about how he would enjoy the MFer part.
We are not talking about Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Saddam and his sadistic sons but Karl Rove. I don't understand that kind of deranged in comparison to provocation hatred and it does disturb me.
May 14, 2008, 9:54:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
john t
You people are amazing. You and your leader Dollar can't get the NewsHounds out of your minds. We are embedded in your minds. All you can do is rant and rave about what goes on over ar the NewsHounds.
What's it like to hate something and someone that bad that you think about it constantly?
That is truly pathetic.
May 14, 2008, 10:17:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
> What's it like to hate something and someone that bad that you think about it constantly?
Now if you changed that to read "LIE about it constantly", then you could ask that question of the newshounds.
May 14, 2008, 10:25:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
john t
johnny dollar | Homepage | 05.14.08 - 10:30 pm
Yeah, I could change it to that and still be talking about you.
May 14, 2008, 10:30:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
And you would be just as truthful and honest as claiming Karl Rove was the only guest, or Megyn Kelly praised and defended Hagee.
May 14, 2008, 10:32:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
That is truly pathetic.
john t | Homepage | 05.14.08 - 10:22 pm | #
What's it like to rant and rave and think about Fox News consantly?
May 14, 2008, 10:35:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
What's it like to hate something and someone that bad that you think about it constantly?
john t | Homepage | 05.14.08 - 10:22 pm | #
Let me see if I understand this... you're annoyed that the folks over here focus on Newshounds... a group whose mission is to watch and report negative stories about FOX News.
If you think this is "pathetic," shouldn't you also think what Newshounds does is "pathetic?" After all, that's a whole business centered on hating and obsessing over another group.
The only difference between this place and Newshounds, is that here, (1) everyone is allowed to post, even if they disagree with the host's thesis, (2) J$ does not purposely lie to deceive those who read this site, and (3) it focuses on more than just one other group (Newshounds), and spends most of its time discussing cable news as a whole.
It seems to me, that if this site bothers you so much, that Newshounds should bother you doubly. They are everything you accuse this site of being, and more.
Do you understand the hypocrisy?
May 14, 2008, 11:10:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Based on my past experience with John t he is intellectually and morally bankrupt and will say and do anything to advance his cause and protect himself.
To rephrase it he is not an honest broker and anyone who deals with him should hold tight to his wallet and make copies of everything to protect themselves.
May 15, 2008, 12:26:31 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Damail
Hey Johnny, throw this out for consideration: The gals at Newswoofs go nuts whenever Hannity does a solo interview with some Republican. "So-and-so is too cowardly to answer Colmes' questions, yada yada yada."
Well, Alan just interviewed Harry Reid solo a couple of days ago. A few weeks before, he did a solo interview with John Kerry. The Newswoofs response? You guessed it.
...(Crickets chirping)...
May 15, 2008, 1:00:25 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Hear! Hear! ImNotBlue!
May 15, 2008, 1:02:45 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Damail, you can expect to hear them gush over Bill Richardson since he appeared for both hosts tonight. Of course they won't mention Harry Reid. At least I'm hoping they don't!
May 15, 2008, 1:08:25 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
By the way, I just got another message deleted over there, suggesting to Deborah that she should issue a retraction for claiming Megyn Kelly said something she never said (praising Hagee, as pointed out in the stupid hound tricks post). The comment lasted about 5 minutes. She's all up in arms about how Kelly should issue a retraction for something--and once again, Deborah is using a doctored, phony quote from Kelly. Debbie is either an illiterate hack or a serial liar.
May 15, 2008, 1:10:14 AM EDT – Like – Reply
tony
You people are amazing. You and your leader Dollar can't get the NewsHounds out of your minds. We are embedded in your minds. All you can do is rant and rave about what goes on over ar the NewsHounds.
What's it like to hate something and someone that bad that you think about it constantly?
That is truly pathetic.
john t | Homepage | 05.14.08 - 10:22
Yes sir, that fact that we are embedded in your mind so you need to come over here to read and post is "truly pathetic".
Or you are just hypocritical?
But please do continue to post. I enjoy the laugh.
As always, great thanks.
May 15, 2008, 4:13:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
"You people are amazing. You and your leader Dollar..." -john t
You people? YOU PEOPLE??? John t is a racist!!!
May 15, 2008, 8:47:07 PM EDT – Like – Reply
john t
ImNotBlue | 05.14.08 - 11:15 pm
NewsHounds monitors Fox, a nationally broadcast, supposedly "news" channel. Now is NewsHounds a nationally broadcast news station?
Do you get the point now, or should I type slower?
tony | 05.15.08 - 4:18 pm
tony, tony, tony.
I couldn't give a rats ass about you. You need to get over yourself. Maybe some mental help.
Just look and see how often I post here. Of course I could do it more often but people like you drive people away.
May 15, 2008, 10:19:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Tony, thanks for posting here!
May 15, 2008, 10:21:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
Ah... so because FOX has more people watching it, and a bigger audience, it's okay?
Exactly when did that become a rule? How big an audience do you have to have before you can have someone making sure you don't lie?
You seem to be someone who's obsessed with Johnny Dollar... and he has far fewer people here, than they do over at Newshounds. So if you're allowed to watch J$, why isn't J$ allowed to watch Newshounds?
And sure, you might want to try typing more slowly... maybe then you won't spin yourself into more logical contradictions.
May 15, 2008, 11:20:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
"he has far fewer people here, than they do over at Newshounds"
That is a point in contention. Bill Corcoran used to post articles there, and he insists that the NH falsely inflate their numbers via friendly sockpuppets.
May 15, 2008, 11:39:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Tony, let me say Thanks! for keeping john t's visits down.
I sure hope I have that effect on the little snot.
May 15, 2008, 11:48:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
olby sucks
Grammie, we want people like john t here. W/out the 'johnt's' we would be nothing more than another echo chamber like the dog pound. We need more 'johnt's' at ow, too.
May 16, 2008, 1:00:48 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
I agree wiyh you completely except this particular cur only plays dirty pool and his sole objective is to insult and inflame!
I enjoy Eeyore b/c although he is TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY WRONG he debates honestly and doesn't wildly insult people.
May 16, 2008, 11:24:42 AM EDT – Like – Reply
tony
, tony, tony.
I couldn't give a rats ass about you. You need to get over yourself. Maybe some mental help.
Just look and see how often I post here. Of course I could do it more often but people like you drive people away.
john t | Homepage | 05.15.08 - 10:24 pm | #
Ok, first of all, please stop repeating my name like that......it kinda creeps me out.
Second of all, although we enjoy debate over hear (unlike Newshounds who is afraid of debate) you bring nothing new. You are just a left wing anti USA nut. as a matter of fact, if you were one of us posting on Newshounds, you would be banned by now. So go play now and come back when you can wear your big boy panties.
As always, great thanks.
May 16, 2008, 4:51:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Tony, john t does have a way about him that would even gag a magot.
May 16, 2008, 5:08:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
tony
Grammie: I like you more and more every day.
May 16, 2008, 6:54:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Though it did evoke an awful mental picture, Tony, I think you need to win Johnny's coveted Commenter of the Day award for the "big boy panties" quip.
May 16, 2008, 7:07:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Tony, I won the coveted Commenter of the Day award a few days back for my comment about john t.
Is it that we are superb writers or that john t writes it himself?
May 16, 2008, 7:18:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
tony
Though it did evoke an awful mental picture, Tony, I think you need to win Johnny's coveted Commenter of the Day award for the "big boy panties" quip.
Cecelia | 05.16.08 - 7:12 pm | #
I know, it made me throw up in my mouth a little when I was typing it!
May 16, 2008, 7:29:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Nah, I can't give someone Commenter of the Day when they violated a rule (personal attack on another poster). Sorry tony. We REALLY do not like posters attacking each other here. Attack the message, not the messenger.
May 16, 2008, 7:44:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
tony
Johnny: Point taken. thank you.
May 16, 2008, 7:50:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Me too, Johnny.
I am so sorry that I said that john t was enough to gag a maggot.
May 16, 2008, 8:15:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
