Monday Cable News Links and Open Thread
Intellectuals hack FNC twitter account.
Friday's numbers: CNN tops Kennedy coverage.
Video doubles match: FBN vs Bryan Brothers.
Q&A: Robin Meade (via ICN), Geraldo. Hot book.
Wedding pix. Ask Major. Kurtz flub? Hot & Not.
Updated through the day. Use our valuable bandwidth to post your cable news comments in today's open thread. Standard rules apply. fox news cable news
Mike C.
Re: "Kurtz flub?": Is it me or does Howard Kurtz not like FNC?
August 31, 2009, 1:34:24 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Tina
Howie's show needs to be renamed "Unreliable Sources".
August 31, 2009, 6:43:43 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Tina
Howie's show needs to be renamed "Unreliable Sources". This is not the first time he has attacked FNC without the facts in front of him.
PS: This is a repost, since I forgot to put in my email on the last one.
August 31, 2009, 6:56:42 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
If you want to see how nonexistent the excitement, the gravitas, and the glowing puff pieces would have been had Keith Olbermann been a conservative, you have only to look at the treatment of Glenn Beck.
Remember Keith Olbermann raised MSNBC's ratings and that WAS delightful, delicious, and de-lovely to the MSM.
That fact alone was used to justify their interest, their accolades, and their nonjudgmental "just giving the facts" reports that Olbermann was fiercely anti-Bush Administration.
In Beck you have basically the same scenario. He has caused a phenomenal growth in FNC ratings, at a time when other outlets have struggled to retain the numbers they acquired during the presidential campaign.
Beck is funny, over-the-top, anti-Obama Administration...in the same ways that Keith was.
Yet Glenn Beck is someone who at every opportunity, the MSM will attempt to marginalize, trivialize, and point out as being the worst of cable news and the "new" news genre in general.
Hope Beck has a wet suit. He's going to need it more and more.
August 31, 2009, 8:09:04 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
NEWS HOUNDS PLAGIARIST USES CHILD CUSTORY ISSUE TO BASH FOX NEWS!!!
Fox&Friends Use Child Custody Issue To Bash Islam?
Reported by Priscilla - August 31, 2009 - 2 comments
The interesting sentence in tis post is as follows.......
"As if a child welfare case should be decided on what a right wing opinion show audience thinks".
Shouldn't that read someting like this.........
"As if news presentation should be decided on what a far left wing loon blog site audience thinks."
First, Priscilla the Plagiarist, says it's Ok then she says it's not really ok because it doesn't meet her definition of "fair and balanced".
A laugh a minute at the Hideous Heinous House of Hens.
August 31, 2009, 9:01:35 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
My lord! Julie B. is twittering on her honeymoon?!
August 31, 2009, 11:44:02 AM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
glenn beck latest twitter post, warning of "facism" during the bush years?:
I admit bush was bad in many ways. Warned at the time of fascism. I warned then that he was in with global corps.when will U echo yourself?
August 31, 2009, 12:04:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
FNCFan20
I hope Julie and Andy stay safe. It looks like a tropical storm might be headed their way.
August 31, 2009, 12:26:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
chris | Homepage | 08.31.09 - 12:09 pm | #
Confusing ah Chris?
previous one:
"Convinced that those on right that preach that dems are enemy are wildly wrong. Radical revolutionary left is the enemy. Unite with dems.8:03 PM Aug 29th from TwitterFon "
So let me see do I have it straight.
Obama is a racist and a socialist. Bush, on the other hand, was/is a fascist according to Glen Beck?
August 31, 2009, 1:09:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
oneforetheroad | 08.31.09 - 1:14 pm
hey, I just report what Beck says. I guess he isnt to crazy about Govenment, no matter who is in charge
August 31, 2009, 1:56:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Well, Chris, it's wildly confusing when someone doesn't play to your stereotype.
August 31, 2009, 2:13:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ramjet
14TR,
Still waiting:
I'm surprised you don't remember my being "around for the Red Eye discussion." I supported your position. I criticized Gutfeld for his, IMO, inappropriate joke re: the Canadian military. I praised the Canadian military's efforts in Afghanistan.
If I'm not mistaken, it was your maiden foray into J$P. I encouraged you to stick around, lighten up a bit, get to know the landscape a little before criticizing the format. I offered explanations on how to keep the different threads straight, how to comment on the pertinent topic and how to get along with the folks here.
August 31, 2009, 2:17:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
chris | Homepage | 08.31.09 - 2:01 pm | #
So he would be an anarchist.
All these 'ists are confusing, but that seems about right.
1. supporter of anarchism: somebody who believes that governments should be abolished as unnecessary
2. lawless person: somebody who tries to overthrow a government or behaves in a lawless way
August 31, 2009, 2:20:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Re: "Hot book": And I have that book in posession. I brought it to Marina's book signing/Q&A session two weeks ago at Borders in The Shops at Columbus Circle in Manhattan. It was very exciting to see her and then meet her in person. I recapped the experience on my blog.
August 31, 2009, 2:20:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
Cecelia | 08.31.09 - 2:18 pm |
I know that Beck is a libertarian, which means he will speak out against both sides. But when you have blogs that focus just on one side and not the other, well then we all know what happens.
August 31, 2009, 2:37:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
"How to get along with the folks here.
ramjet | Homepage | 08.31.09 - 2:22 pm |"
How do you think that's working out?
If you supported the Canadian Troops, thank you. Sorry if I didn't remember the name.
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Cecelia | 08.31.09 - 2:18 pm | #
didnt realize Chris had a stereotype, but I like his idea about just reporting the news. I'll have to try that.
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chris | Homepage | 08.31.09 - 2:42 pm | #
You mean he could be compared to Lou Dobbs? Wow, the lines are blurring, what will we do?
oneforetheroad | 08.31.09 - 3:18 pm | #
August 31, 2009, 3:15:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
"So he would be an anarchist.
All these 'ists are confusing, but that seems about right.
1. supporter of anarchism: somebody who believes that governments should be abolished as unnecessary
2. lawless person: somebody who tries to overthrow a government or behaves in a lawless way
oneforetheroad | 08.31.09 - 2:25 pm | # "
Roadie, I know you like to dot every I and cross every T so before I comment on this I want to reprase it so that we are on the same page.
By not using any qualifier words such as "might", "may", "probably", "could" etc I take your first sentence to mean that you have catalogued him definitively as an anarchist.
Your first definition, "anacharst", will get no argument from me especially when taken in conjunction with your second definition that fleshes out what I consider a necessary condition of anachary, which is lawless violence to remove the government.
So, is that your contention? Glenn Beck is an anarchist and a man who aims to overthrow the government of the United States through lawless means to achieve his ideal of a society with no governments?
August 31, 2009, 5:07:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
ramjet-formerly vstol | Homepage | 05.01.09 - 2:52 am | #
Playing mind games?
ramjet 1, oneforetheroad 1
Good one.
August 31, 2009, 5:08:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
didnt realize Chris had a stereotype, but I like his idea about just reporting the news. I'll have to try that.
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oneforetheroad | 08.31.09 - 3:20 pm | #
Not stereotypes, really, just what was heretofore a sensible limit on his expectations.
For example he probably never expected that you'd read the word libertarian and go off to the races on anarchism.
The rest of us weren't surprised.
August 31, 2009, 5:23:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
ramjet-formerly vstol
Playing mind games?
ramjet 1, oneforetheroad 1
Good one.
oneforetheroad | 08.31.09 - 5:13 pm | #
Sly devil, Ramjet. You intentionally left off that second hyphen to confuse her.
August 31, 2009, 5:33:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Re: "Friday's numbers": Keith now has a club to beat BOR over the head with. At 8PM, FNC's Kennedy memorial coverage came in third in total viewers and 25-54. MSNBC, with coverage anchored by Daddy Olbermann, came in second. FNC also came in third in 25-54 at 9PM while MSNBC again came in second. Even though there was no "Factor" and no "Hannity," Keith will declare victory. You watch.
August 31, 2009, 5:53:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
Interseting thing about those cable numbers though.....Beck still had the best ratings comapred to even the Kennedy coverage in the demo and in total viewers.
Demo: Beck 684,000 Best Kennedy (CNN) 510,000
Total: Beck 2.896 million Best Kennedy (CNN) 2.167 million
Pretty amazing. Perhaps Fox should have stuck with their normal primetime programming Friday night.
I personally did not watch one minute of any of the live coverage.
August 31, 2009, 7:09:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
If KO declares victory & nobody is watching, does it mean anything to anyone? No, because the regular schedule is back tonight & the Friday night snapshot is yesterday's news. Funeral's always seem to help MSNBC, because they do depression & dispair better than any other cable news outlet.
August 31, 2009, 7:20:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
"For example he probably never expected that you'd read the word libertarian and go off to the races on anarchism.
The rest of us weren't surprised.
Cecelia | 08.31.09 - 5:28 pm | # "
Really Cecelia........I think you better go check those posts again. I believe you are mixing two unrelated posts.
Libertarian and Lou Dobbs.....noting to do with anarchism and neither did that post. Have you lost your glasses, I know how frustrating that can be.
August 31, 2009, 7:47:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
"Sly devil, Ramjet. You intentionally left off that second hyphen to confuse her.
Cecelia | 08.31.09 - 5:38 pm | # "
Yes I do believe he was pulling my leg. Hopefully it was in good fun.
Glad you enjoyed his joke.
August 31, 2009, 7:51:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
"So, is that your contention? Glenn Beck is an anarchist and a man who aims to overthrow the government of the United States through lawless means to achieve his ideal of a society with no governments?
Grammie | 08.31.09 - 5:12 pm | # "
Grammie, quite frankly it is simply the definition found in the dictionary. Completely unaltered by me. So if the shoe fits, you can choose either or both, I'll let you decide. Or if you like you can combine the two as you seemed to have done. We have already established that I don't watch Mr. Beck, only slightly insane clips of the man.
August 31, 2009, 8:02:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
"Nobody" is watching, but plenty of websites will report on whatever he says.
August 31, 2009, 8:03:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ramjet
How to get along with the folks here.
ramjet | Homepage | 08.31.09 - 2:22 pm |"
How do you think that's working out?
If you supported the Canadian Troops, thank you. Sorry if I didn't remember the name.-14TR
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If you had followed my advice, it would have worked out just fine. As is, the result of ignoring (and continuing to ignore) my advice is evident to all.
Now here's an interesting little tidbit that explains a lot. You wrote, "If you supported......thank you."
Since I told you I did, even if you don't remember, what possible reason would you add the qualifier "If" to your thanks? I would venture that if I or anyone else here who is not a known prevaricator said something along the lines of supporting another's position, the response would be a simple, "Thanks."
Wasn't a joke. Wasn't trying to pull anyone's leg. Recognizing forthrightness is not your forte, eh?
August 31, 2009, 8:31:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
"So he would be an anarchist.
All these 'ists are confusing, but that seems about right."
oneforetheroad | 08.31.09 - 2:25 pm | # "
"Roadie, I know you like to dot every I and cross every T so before I comment on this I want to reprase it so that we are on the same page.
By not using any qualifier words such as "might", "may", "probably", "could" etc I take your first sentence to mean that you have catalogued him definitively as an anarchist."
Your answer is all well and good if I wasn't interested in an honest answer to an honest question.
Just such an answer was what I was attempting to forestall b/c you have a trait in common with Haggis of juxtaposing several ideas and then denying that you implied any connection.
I'll try again:
Based on the entirety of your earlier comment in which you stated "So he would be an anarchist." in referring to Beck.
You followed that with two with a dictionary definition of "anarchist" and then of "lawless person" which seems to exemplify what you consider to be a crucial component of anarchy.
You wrote a short concise 4 paragraph comment with a statement declaring Glen Beck is an "anarchist" followed by copied dictionary entries.
What did you mean?
I don't see a lot of room to play in and I have to agree that only an unreasonable person would form such serious conclusion and disseminate it having never seen anything of substance of the man. It would go beyond unreasonable into the realm of malicious rumors.
August 31, 2009, 8:44:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Have you lost your glasses, I know how frustrating that can be.
oneforetheroad | 08.31.09 - 7:52 pm | #
For someone who has twice used the term "confusion", declared the "lines blurring" after YOU threw in Lou Dobbs, accused Ramjet of trying to put one over on you because you can't read Ramjet with a hyphen after it, and pled Canadian after Grammie took literally your own inane post...I don't think your glasses are going to help.
Some sort of brain surgery to remove the over utilized part of your that controls coyness, would be your best shot.
Glasses, no.
August 31, 2009, 9:07:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
ramjet | Homepage | 08.31.09 - 8:36 pm | #
So where's the hyphen?
August 31, 2009, 10:18:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
oneforetheroad | 08.27.09 - 9:37 pm |
ramjet | Homepage | 08.27.09 - 10:36 pm | #
No, no hyphen there either.
August 31, 2009, 10:29:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
ramjet-formerly vstol | Homepage | 05.01.09 - 2:52 am | #
Ah, a hyphen..........you did of course note the date?
I thought vstol might in fact be ramjet, from his post about defending the Canadian troops and being helpful. The only one I remember being helpful was vstol and I could not remember a ramjet no matter how hard I tried. So I searched your archives for when one disappeared and the other took over.
August 31, 2009, 10:42:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
Grammie | 08.31.09 - 8:49 pm | #
Grammie | 08.31.09 - 8:49 pm | #
Lighten up Grammie. You are completely right of course. That "So he would be an anarchist" should have had a question mark after it, as the second sentence implies.
chris | Homepage | 08.31.09 - 2:01 pm | #
So he would be an anarchist?
All these 'ists are confusing, but that seems about right.
Is that better?
All those 'ists would be Fascist, Socialist etc., from the earlier posts.
hey, I just report what Beck says. I guess he isnt to crazy about Govenment, no matter who is in charge
chris | Homepage | 08.31.09 - 2:01 pm | #
"Some one that isn't crazy about Government, no matter who is in charge."; would fit the definition of anarchist? Would they not?
The libertarian part didn't come until later.
I know that Beck is a libertarian, which means he will speak out against both sides. But when you have blogs that focus just on one side and not the other, well then we all know what happens.
chris | Homepage | 08.31.09 - 2:42 pm | #
The "Wow, the lines are blurring, what will we do?", was in reply to Chris's" But when you have blogs that focus just on one side and not the other, well then we all know what happens."
I do hope that sets the record straight.
August 31, 2009, 11:22:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ramjet
I do hope that sets the record straight.
oneforetheroad | 08.31.09 - 11:27 pm | #
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Not so much.
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