Friday Cable News Links and Open Thread
Thursday's numbers: Beck huge! Olbermann, Maddow fall behind FNC/CNN/HLN, sink to 4th in demo timeslots!
Civil servant Sean?
Is Beck bulletproof? P.A.B. in oil.
Blind item time. Kennedy coverage preview.
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Blackflon
And the hate continues.
Mike Huckabee and Vince Johnny Sack Curatola: Two Big Fat Liars
Reported by Alex - Fri 7:06 AM
No logic, no rational thought process. Just the name calling and demeaning comments.
Straight out of Alinsky's book.
August 28, 2009, 8:46:57 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Al Frankenstein
Blackflon why are you so obsessed with Newshounds?
August 28, 2009, 10:57:02 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
L'il Fellerstein -
If I might suggest, in the interest of general good will, before you start asking questions, perhaps you can address the myriad of questions posed to you over the past few days that you've avoided answering.
August 28, 2009, 11:14:40 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Blackflon why are you so obsessed with Newshounds?
Al Frankenstein | 08.28.09 - 11:02 am | #
Because of their charm and personalities??
August 28, 2009, 11:27:33 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Looks like Julie the race pimp is at it again.
Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck Have A New ACORN -- and A New Ayers!
Reported by Julie - August 28, 2009 - 13 comments
August 28, 2009, 11:29:42 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
"L'il Fellerstein "
hahahahahaha!
August 28, 2009, 11:56:54 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Al Frankenstein
Ashley I answered the questions posted just like you answer every question posted to you, Which you don't you just give cute little one liners and , the questions were answered and if it was not up to snuff for you then that is your problem. Sorry it was not the answer you wanted.
August 28, 2009, 12:08:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
No, Beck is not "bullet-proof" because despite ratings, FNC will capitulate to pressure from the opprobrium of media elites.
Opprobrium that Keith Olbermann (despite his plethora of heinous charges and characterizations of the former president) and MSNBC never incurred.
August 28, 2009, 12:13:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Those Patti Anne Brown videos were funny. Who knew she had that kind of sense of humor
August 28, 2009, 12:29:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Re: "P.A.B. in oil": I hope nobody was disappointed when they found out it was an oil painting. It looked very good, though. The bidding is up near $230 as I type.
August 28, 2009, 12:44:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Ashley I answered the questions posted just like you answer every question posted to you, Which you don't you just give cute little one liners and , the questions were answered and if it was not up to snuff for you then that is your problem. Sorry it was not the answer you wanted.
Al Frankenstein | 08.28.09 - 12:13 pm | #
Is that so?
Then perhaps you can assist with providing us with the locations of your answers to the following questions:
#1 - Who called who a liar? Please give the example and explain why that individual should NOT have been called a liar by the other.
Ashley | 08.21.09 - 4:39 pm | #
#2 - Please give an example of us "spinning something Olbermann said". Spinning indicates that we are twisting the meaning of something said. What was it?
Ashley | 08.27.09 - 4:09 pm | #
#3 - Recess is over! Please provide evidence of:
1. My spinning something Olberman said.
2. Someone here spinning something Olbermann said (Do #2 only after #1 is completed).
ramjet | Homepage | 08.27.09 - 4:18 pm | #
#4 - Well then did someone sneak into your house and use your IP address? Hey I don't care if you posted here before or not. But it's better to ignore questions like that than to misrepresent--just a general comment, not directed at you or anyone else.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.27.09 - 2:59 pm | #
And one new one...
Which question of yours did I failed to answer with a legitimate response, instead responding with a "cute little one liner"? Point those out and I will provide a legitimate answer.
August 28, 2009, 12:47:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Al Frankenstein
Olbermann lies just like Beck, the only difference is that Bush deserved everything Olbermann has said about him regarding the war and the 4000 dead for no reason, Beck just lies well about everything.
August 28, 2009, 12:48:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Can someone please tell me what the hell Beck was talking about last night.
Johnny are you worried that President Obama will send his "civilian army" round to shut down your dissenting website?
Are posters here worried that the "civilian army" will come round and take them away for an intense dose of indoctrination?
I'm questioning with boldness and speaking Without Fear.
August 28, 2009, 1:00:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Once again Haggis comes up with a complaint the day after something airs. Oh wait, it takes that long for the echo chamber to post about it. Ah, now I get it. Never mind.
August 28, 2009, 1:05:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.28.09 - 1:10 pm |
Johnny....you've get to remember we're 5 hours ahead.
Your wrong....I did see beck last night....I was just wondering if someone could explain Beck's thinking to me and if they agreed with it.
August 28, 2009, 1:15:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Al Frankenstein
Ashley,
Miss, How many time to you guys say Haggis is stretching the truth or making things up, to many to name or number it happens every day he posts.
THe same with Olbermann everytime he talks about ratings or Bill O'Reilly you guys jump on him for lying of spinning.
Personal attacks Edited By Siteowner
August 28, 2009, 1:15:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
Al Frankenstein | 08.28.09 - 12:53 pm | #
No you have that wrong. Beck doesn't lie, he tole us so and I have to take him at face value.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40a6xPEzsM
August 28, 2009, 1:16:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
Sorry about the typo, that should have been told, not tole. The spelling police can stand at ease!
August 28, 2009, 1:28:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
How many time to you guys say Haggis is stretching the truth or making things up, to many to name or number it happens every day he posts.
Al Frankenstein | 08.28.09 - 1:20 pm |
#
I don't know the exact number, but it is probably equal or close to the number of times Haggis has distorted the issue, omitted facts, or made things up.
Are you interested in Cable Business News? We discuss it every now and then. These days, with the economy in its current state and plans to change the health care situation, stimulus plans, unemployment, etc; it turns out that CNBC's ratings are plummeting while FBN's are growing. In fact, FBN is the "Gold Standard" of Cable Business News. Along with Alexis Glick and Neil Cavuto, more and more people are turning to FBN for their business news on cable. Apparently, many of their new viewers are former CNBC viewers.
August 28, 2009, 1:32:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
Do you all sit by the keyboard waiting for each segment to finish so you can comment on it?
Haggis how dare you comment or ask a question about yesterday's programming, you are obviously not keeping up.
Where do you live by the way, Scotland would be my guess, but which part?
August 28, 2009, 1:32:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
oneforetheroad | 08.28.09 - 1:21 pm |
Can you imagine the grief Keith would get if he admitted to lying to others in the past....Then said he was a recovered liar.
OW and here would create gigs worth of posts about it.
August 28, 2009, 1:39:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
just checked Beck twitter page:
Going into radio/tv meetings now. Warning to radical left: 1st half of tv show tonight 4 u. 2nd half tonight for BOTH parties. Then 2 dc912
I wonder whats he planning
August 28, 2009, 1:39:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"Can you imagine the grief Keith would get if he admitted to lying to others in the past....Then said he was a recovered liar."
Well such a statement would deservedly get a lot of attention. He was caught lying just this week, so he ain't recovered!
August 28, 2009, 1:40:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Al Frankenstein
Yes Assley but CNBC still is winning and really that is all that matter, and please Cavuto his is an idiot, I guess that is why you lik him so much.
August 28, 2009, 1:46:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Where do you live by the way, Scotland would be my guess, but which part?
oneforetheroad | 08.28.09 - 1:37 pm |
Central Scotland...but keep quiet about that.
August 28, 2009, 1:48:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Al Frankenstein
And what about the lies of Doocy, Carlson, O'Reilly, Hannity and Beck, they recover from their lies alot better than Olbermann does since they do it alot more often.
August 28, 2009, 1:48:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Well I don't recall any of them making personal attacks on the family members of a competitor. When they do that, then you can use them to divert from Olbermann.
August 28, 2009, 1:51:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
Haggis | 08.28.09 - 1:20 pm |
just because something airs on fox news, DOES NOT MEAN EVERYONE HEAR AGREES WITH IT.
But if you lie about fox, the posters here will say its a lie
August 28, 2009, 1:52:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
Ashley | 08.28.09 - 1:37 pm | #
CNBC is irritating. I watch Bloomberg, if I need an American financial station. They at least seem to appreciate that some investors are not Republicans.
I prefer my financial advise sans political innuendo.
August 28, 2009, 1:52:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
"Are posters here worried that the 'civilian army' will come round and take them away for an intense dose of indoctrination?"
###
Nope, just like I did not believe George Bush was maneuvering to have habeus corpus rights taken away back in the day when Olbermann was predicting the end of our republic.
Where were you two on that claim? I recall lots of Olbermann fans worried about it and expressing their support of Olbermann over at OW.
No call for a boycott from me over that one.
You see, Olbermann claims to be a rational, mainstream journalist all the while making fun of Beck, teabaggers, birthers, FNC viewers, conservatives, republicans, Christians, you name it....fogretting the paranoid little man he was a short 7 months ago when the powers that ran the government were not ideologically aligned to his agenda.....
Good for goose, good for gander.
August 28, 2009, 1:59:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
chris | Homepage | 08.28.09 - 1:57 pm |
I never said anyone agreed with Beck.....I was only asking if folk were worried about the "civilian army".....you've got to admit you're not Obama's biggest fan....If what Beck says is true....Do you feel you're in any danger?
August 28, 2009, 2:00:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
*here-I was typing to fast for my 1:57pm post
August 28, 2009, 2:03:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Gosh Al F - personal attacks? Why are you making personal attacks against me with "Assley" and whatever J$ edited out. All I did was ask you to respond to several questions which you've avoided. Was any question I asked you not legitimate for the discussion here? If so, what were those questions.
I personally am eager to hear your response to J
August 28, 2009, 2:14:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
I prefer my financial advise sans political innuendo.
oneforetheroad | 08.28.09 - 1:57 pm | #
I think these days, it's difficult for anyone to separate the two.
August 28, 2009, 2:16:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Going into radio/tv meetings now.
chris | Homepage | 08.28.09 - 1:44 pm |
We can only hope the meeting conclude with Beck clutching his P45.
But apart from that....I'm beside myself with excitement at what theatrics Beck will give use tonight...Only 2hrs 40mins to go.
August 28, 2009, 2:17:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
Haggis | 08.28.09 - 2:05 pm |
its hard for me to believe beck, but I have heard with my own two ears, that he hopes and prays that he is WRONG,
has for me feeling in danger, no I don't
August 28, 2009, 2:20:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
Haggis | 08.28.09 - 2:05 pm |
one more thing Haggis, I wasnt Bush biggest fan either, but I do think he was very poorly treated by the media
August 28, 2009, 2:24:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
Haggis | 08.28.09 - 2:22 pm |
if your in the UK, why do you care about US media so much?.
August 28, 2009, 2:35:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
"what theatrics Beck will give use tonight..."
Well Haggis, there is S.773, a new law that would give the US chief executive broad new powers over the internet for the sake of security.
I am sure Beck has some constitutional worries over that initiative and will discuss them at length.
Enjoy, along with the multiple millions tuning in to be informed!
August 28, 2009, 2:37:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Haggis - you must have missed my question from the other day, so I'll ask again. Wasn't it great to learn that BOR wins the under 35 demo that you were boasting about the other day.
Apparently, Keith Olbermann was lying through his teeth.
What say you?
August 28, 2009, 2:41:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
cee | 08.28.09 - 2:42 pm |
The Cybersecurity Act of 2009? is that what your referring to?
I'm more worried about these cookies....Beck is always talking about. J$P places cookies on my PC....Johnny what is your cookie policy?...I hope I'm not being secretly infiltrated....maybe my pal Kaspersky was right after all.
August 28, 2009, 2:49:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
I think these days, it's difficult for anyone to separate the two.
Ashley | 08.28.09 - 2:21 pm | #
You are probably right from the American perspective. Dollar in the pits, interest rates none existent, for fixed income investors, and a declining demographic. Yet Wall Street seems to be ignoring the doom and gloom. We'll see next month, when traders are back in full force.
Meanwhile the Lonnie is doing great and commodities seem on a roll, thank you.
Oh yes and Haggis, why do you give a damn? Is that allowed?
Perhaps it should have been:
Oh yes, Haggis - Why do you bother to care?
August 28, 2009, 2:52:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley | 08.28.09 - 2:46 pm |
For heavens sake Ashley.....your blabbering about ratings....while I'm getting infiltrated with evil cookies.....Bill's ratings aren't my highest priority currently.
I stand by my original statement....That demo is important to advertisers....if Keith wins or Bill wins.
August 28, 2009, 2:56:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
News Hounds use Kennedy's death to attack and smear Fox News!!!!!!
Hannity Pretends To Take The High Road Over Kennedys Death
Reported by Ellen - Fri 1:52 PM
August 28, 2009, 3:01:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
And what about the lies of Doocy, Carlson, O'Reilly, Hannity and Beck, they recover from their lies alot better than Olbermann does since they do it alot more often.
Al Frankenstein | 08.28.09 - 1:53 pm | #
Al, I am sure you would be able to post one of those lies and then present evidence that it in fact was a lie.
August 28, 2009, 3:05:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Oh yes, Haggis - Why do you bother to care?
oneforetheroad | 08.28.09 - 2:57 pm |
To be honest I only care because FNC propaganda is infiltrating our airways...So that's the reason....I'm here...questioning with boldness and speaking without fear.
It's funny...When Parliament have debates on funding the BBC over here....The example always given for keeping the BBC at all costs is....Do you want our news to be like Fox? That is then followed with cries of NO my honourable friend...I do not....check Hansard for full details.
August 28, 2009, 3:19:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
I stand by my original statement....That demo is important to advertisers....if Keith wins or Bill wins.
Haggis | 08.28.09 - 3:01 pm | #
But Haggis, that is not what you said. This is what you said:
"Ashley a 18-34 breakdown is invaluable to an ad agency....No point in advertising surf boards on FNC....On the other hand MSNBC has the perfect demographic for surf boards....Not so laughable when you analyse the facts.
Haggis | 08.25.09 - 8:47 pm | #
Here you are clearly indicating that MSNBC and Olby won that demo, when the facts show you to be wrong. Not so laughable when you analyse the facts.
August 28, 2009, 3:29:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Al, I am sure you would be able to post one of those lies and then present evidence that it in fact was a lie.
Blackflon | Homepage | 08.28.09 - 3:10 pm |
Al...If you don't mind.
That's easy to answer....Doocy......"This is HUUUUGE"....Enough said I think.
August 28, 2009, 3:32:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley | 08.28.09 - 3:34 pm |
Ashley, your simply being pedantic here.
If it make you happy.....Surf boarders Should advertise on FNC. You know I'm correct about the demo....but just can't bring yourself to say so.
August 28, 2009, 3:38:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Haggis - I must commend you on the tremendous body of evidence and accompanying analysis that clearly proves that Doocy lied. Frankly, it's more than your usual.
August 28, 2009, 3:41:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Al, I am sure you would be able to post one of those lies and then present evidence that it in fact was a lie.
Blackflon | Homepage | 08.28.09 - 3:10 pm |
And how could anyone forget the famous "Paris Business Review" article that said France has "lost billions of dollars" because of an American boycott.
August 28, 2009, 3:43:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
last night I posted here, how Olby furthered attacked fox news viewers, I posted the video on my blog and a call for Olby to resign
August 28, 2009, 3:49:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
Haggis | 08.28.09 - 3:24 pm | #
Can relate to that sentiment! Canadian's feel much the same about our CBC, although CTV is fairly straightforward also.
American Media, as a whole, has become rather shrill. I find myself watching CNN less and less if I want real news, which is really a shame. They use to be very good with their international coverage and unbiased reports. Now it seems there is little to choose between the 3 large outlets/networks. Perhaps the CBS, ABC and NBC's are better, but they are limited to the evening news so I seldom get a chance to watch.
August 28, 2009, 3:54:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
Haggis | 08.28.09 - 3:48 pm |
I wonder where the video is of Olbermann naming a COUNTRY THAT DOES NOT EXIST wrong, and he bashed someone else for doing the same thing.
Oreilly got a magazine wrong, while Olbermann got a COUNTRY WRONG
August 28, 2009, 3:56:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
You know I'm correct about the demo....but just can't bring yourself to say so.
Haggis | 08.28.09 - 3:43 pm | #
Haggis - as I never said it was not important, the point is moot regarding the first half of this statement.
However, you know I am right about BOR winning the demo, and you were wrong to imply that Olby won the demo, but you just can't bring yourself to say so.
August 28, 2009, 3:57:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
UPDATE (9:10pm)...Olbermann furthered his attacks on fox news viewers tonight (calling them "loons and pinhead"
And of course Bill is little bow peep....I suppose you've never heard....."left wing loons" cross Bills lips....He even called the President a pinhead....But that was quickly downplayed....by telling folk....it actually was the Peach cobbler he was calling a pinhead. That excuse still cracks me up to this very day. :lol:
August 28, 2009, 4:03:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
oneforetheroad | 08.28.09 - 3:59 pm |
I mostly watch BBC/Sky news followed by CNN international....which is very good....and Channel 4 news.
The laugh is Sky news is from the same stable as Fox.....But they're like night and day....Sky news is good.
We get all the major networks nightly news casts:
BBC shows ABC
Sky news shows CBS.....Funny how they don't show Shep Smith.
CNBC europe shows NBC
I think the networks do a reasonably good job.
August 28, 2009, 4:14:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"Olbermann furthered his attacks on fox news viewers tonight (calling them "loons and pinhead"
why Haggis, you seem to have inadvertently left out the part where Olbermann called Fox viewers terrorists and racists. Do you agree with Olbermann on that? Is that why you left it out? I'd like to know because if you agree with him, that would mean you're cavorting with racists here. What say you?
August 28, 2009, 4:15:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
Haggis | 08.28.09 - 4:08 pm |
haggis also forgot:
calling them "loons and pinhead" AMONG THE ABOVE
August 28, 2009, 4:17:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
....."left wing loons
Haggis | 08.28.09 - 4:08 pm
your comparing "left wing loons" to what olbermann said???????????????????????????????????????
you got to be kidding
August 28, 2009, 4:20:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
He even called the President a pinhead....
In my humble opinion, it is pathetic for anyone to continue to repeat a lie after it has been easily been debunked.
But when they have no facts to support their opinion and only blind hatred mixed with low scruples, it's understandable why they do it.
Funny that Haggis has no problem with Olbermann calling the President a terrorist, a racist, a liar, a murderer, etc. I bet he'd really put his foot down if Olby called the president a pinhead.
August 28, 2009, 4:22:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Haggis, please provide a direct quote of Bill O'Reilly calling Obama a pinhead. If you cannot provide same then you will retract your claim and admit you were wrong. The clock is ticking.
Oh, and I also want an answer to my question above? Is Olbermann correct about Fox viewers? Or is he wrong? In you own words.
August 28, 2009, 4:25:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
I don't see any sign of him calling the viewers terrorists...I do see him calling them: "tin foil hatters,
conspiracy theorists, paranoids" If Chris has his transcript correct. I agree with him there....Beck fits all categories perfectly as does Hannity. I don't agree with him calling the viewers racist....Some of course will be.....but saying all viewers are racist is just silly.
August 28, 2009, 4:28:30 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
By the way Haggis, not only where you wrong when you said BOR called the president a pinhead, you were also wrong with your claim "But that was quickly downplayed....by telling folk....it actually was the Peach cobbler he was calling a pinhead."
BOR did not call a peach cobbler a pinhead. He called people who don't save room for peach cobbler pinheads. And as this was all based on something that Pres. Obama had written, he is not included in this group.
Great gosh a mighty Haggy, you are going for a new Haggis record today in being deceptive and wrong . Good luck with that.
August 28, 2009, 4:29:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.28.09 - 4:30 pm |
Johnny...Calm down....we've been through peach cobbler gate until we're blue in the face.....I think he meant one thing you think he meant another thing....It's old news....so can we just leave it at that please.
August 28, 2009, 4:34:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
Haggis | 08.28.09 - 4:19 pm | #
CNN International is no longer shown State Side. A real shame, since it is probably where it's needed most. I think it was part of their cost cutting or streamlining or something.
Oh by the way Johnny......Health Care 0, chit chat 1, but I am not keeping track are you?
August 28, 2009, 4:35:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"I don't see any sign of him calling the viewers terrorists."
Funny, you have every Doocy quote memorized but you can't recall something from Olbermann just a few days ago:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/olbermann-attacks-oreilly-personally-glenn-beck-has-his-back/
So I ask you again. Since he clearly called Fox viewers terrorists and racists is he right or wrong? Simple question, simple answer.
August 28, 2009, 4:38:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"It's old news.."
Is that your final answer (tm Regis Philbin)?
August 28, 2009, 4:38:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"Health Care 0, chit chat 1"
Complaints about off-topic restrictions are off-topic. Last warning.
August 28, 2009, 4:39:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.28.09 - 4:43 pm |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqakgLTRbAQ
I still don't hear him say terrorist....Chris also doesn't have terrorist in the part transcript he posted on his site.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.28.09 - 4:43 pm |
Ok Johnny you win...I'm wrong....Peach Cobbler all round
August 28, 2009, 4:48:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
"Funny, you have every Doocy quote memorized"
I've always got a good Doocy quote up my sleeve....You never know when you might need it.
August 28, 2009, 4:51:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Yes he didn't say terrorists. Point to Haggis. But he did call them racists. Now that we're done quarreling about what he said, answer the question. Is he right or wrong?
August 28, 2009, 4:53:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
Do I see that correctly?
Beck's sermon about what the left believes is "Obama's private army" was seen by over 2.5 million of my fellow citizens?
Why don't I see revolution in the streets?
Again, 2.5 million tinfoil hatters, paranoids, loons, racists and terrorists....
And pinheads!
August 28, 2009, 4:54:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.28.09 - 4:58 pm |
Thanks for admitting your wrong...appreciated. You couldn't have a word with Ashley about his admitting skills....could you?
I answered your racist question in my 4:33 pm post.
August 28, 2009, 5:00:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
1/2 point to Haggis....
Although Olbermann did not explicitly call Fox viewers terrorists, back in July he tied Bill O'Reilly to Dr. Tiller's murder and blamed FOX NEWS for the "terrorist" activity....I would call that another unfair slam on the network, especially after he called for the boycott of FNC.
Boy, oh boy, look at those ratings.....Americans are becoming terrorist supporting, tinfoil hatters, pinheads, loons and racists by the hundreds of thousands.
Boo!
August 28, 2009, 5:07:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
and terrorists....
cee | 08.28.09 - 4:59 pm | #
That is untrue....Johnny will be along shortly to ask for proof of your claim.....Joke :lol:
August 28, 2009, 5:09:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Thanks for admitting your wrong...appreciated. You couldn't have a word with Ashley about his admitting skills....could you?
I answered your racist question in my 4:33 pm post.
Haggis | 08.28.09 - 5:05 pm | #
While I always welcome J$ counsel, it's not necessary. I believe my admitting skills are quite good. For example, I admit that I never said that the 18-34 demo was bad for advisors.
I admit that I've proven you to be wrong on many occastions.
I admit that I've proven you to be, errr, not always truthful.
I admit that I am far better than you at answering other posters questions posed to me.
I admit that you are far better than me at ducking and avoiding direct specific questions posed from other posters.
I admit that I am far more smarter, funnier, well liked, respected, distinguished, witty, clever, resourceful, talented, loyal, popular at parties, and above all...far more modest than you.
August 28, 2009, 5:19:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Don't know where Beck got his 350% increase in gun crime in the UK (since 1998) from. Check out the graph at link below section 3.1 Chart 1: Offences recorded in which firearm use was reported 1969 to 2007/08, England & Wales.
http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/briefings/snsg-01940.pdf
August 28, 2009, 5:22:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
cee | 08.28.09 - 5:12 pm |
not to mention this dandy by olbermann
a few years back:
"fox news is WORSE than al qaeda"
and olby has the gail to lecture others??
August 28, 2009, 5:23:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
"Fox News Channel will never restrain itself from incitement to murder and terrorism, not until its profits begin to decline, when its growth stops."
Keith Olbermann 6/1/09
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Again....O'Reilly pulled nearly 3 million terrorists, tinfoil hatters, loons, racists and pinheads.....much more than he did back on 6/1/09.....OMG!
August 28, 2009, 5:23:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Poor little cankles, fourth place in the demo. The demo, which as we all know, "is important to an ad agency".
BOR came in first in the time slot, and he wasn't even there. It was Laura Ingraham. Cankles the Clown will be seeking comfort with his pet elephant Billo tonight.
August 28, 2009, 5:33:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
"Health Care 0, chit chat 1"
Complaints about off-topic restrictions are off-topic. Last warning.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.28.09 - 4:44 pm | #
Health Care is off topic?.........I am sure I read something, a post, that promoted my contribution.
Is New Orleans off-topic too. Shame, at least one of the links was very informative.
Oh well I guess you are the boss. No three strikes and you out ?
Just one warning and our out? I'll try and remember that.
August 28, 2009, 5:34:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Also by inference to Fox viewers in his interview in Playboy where KO made charges that Fox was more dangerous than terrorists and did more harm than the Ku Klux Klan.
He has a long and sordid history of the vilest personal smears and charges toward GWB et al, anything conservative or Rrepublican, FNC and its viewers.
August 28, 2009, 5:36:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"Don't know where Beck got his 350% increase in gun crime"
I thought i heard him say 50%. He might have gotten that from here:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/capital-gun-crime-rises-by-50-per-cent-524068.html
or here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1440764.stm
In any case, I don't believe the report you posted dealt with Beck's statement,--what happened after the ban was instated--it rather dealt with what happened over the past few years. Interesting but irrelevant.
But fear not. MM will have something on this shortly.
August 28, 2009, 5:37:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"Just one warning and our out? I'll try and remember that."
I'm keeping track of all this, because I always document the reasons behind my decisions. You were whining about the administration of this blog and and the comments yesterday. You were warned. Now it's continued into today. You've been warned a second time. You want to bring it up yet again? Go ahead. Make my day.
August 28, 2009, 5:40:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Don't know where Beck got his 350% increase in gun crime in the UK (since 199 from. Check out the graph at link below section 3.1 Chart 1: Offences recorded in which firearm use was reported 1969 to 2007/08, England & Wales.
http://www.parliament.uk/commons.../snsg- 01940.pdf
Haggis | 08.28.09 - 5:27 pm | #
Isn't Scotland in the UK? Do you have a report that includes that, I question your supply information that does not include Scotland, only England and Wales. What about Ireland? Isn't part of Ireland in the UK? If so, you omitted that.
August 28, 2009, 5:41:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.28.09 - 5:42 pm |
Beck said 350%.....My graph shows this to be untrue.....It does show there was an increase...but we're now back to around 1998 levels.
August 28, 2009, 5:45:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Did you all see Beck's opening salvo tonight.
He commented on admitting his mistake by misspelling "oligar h" last night that the blue blogs were in a tizzy about.
It was an Emmy worthy little vignette.
August 28, 2009, 5:50:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
My graph shows this to be untrue.....It does show there was an increase...but we're now back to around 1998 levels.
Haggis | 08.28.09 - 5:50 pm | #
You're graph shows England and Wales, it does not include Scotland which is where you claim to live. It also shows a current level several thousand units higher than 1998.
August 28, 2009, 5:51:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley | 08.28.09 - 5:46 pm |
You'd have to include the US gun crime statistic to hit a 350% increase.
Sorry the UK parliament site isn't good enough for you.
August 28, 2009, 5:52:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
Oh Johnny, you do a grand impression of Clint Eastwood!
Ashley, I believe Northern Ireland and Scotland have their own Parliaments, so perhaps they also running their own number? But Haggis will have to confirm.
August 28, 2009, 5:54:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
I don't know how you guys do it.
I couldn't spend more than 15 seconds on Haggis and his babbling.
He seems a better fit over at News Hounds. All mouth, no brains.
August 28, 2009, 6:00:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
I apologise....I was wrong over the % Beck stated.....it was only 340%
Evidence 8mins 30sec into video at link below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKkcRrdjts8
August 28, 2009, 6:03:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ZoneDaiatlas
No Haggis, There is an article in Playboy Magazine which Keith Olbermann compares Fox News worse than Al-Qaeda, worse than the KKK...
August 28, 2009, 6:10:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Sorry the UK parliament site isn't good enough for you.
Haggis | 08.28.09 - 5:57 pm | #
Not a matter of being good enough for me, I just question why you would make a claim about the UK then only provide evidence one-half of the statistics.
Gosh Haggy, and I've been saying many times lately that you're an expert in Stats!!!
But by your standard, I could show how gun crime has now been cut 50% in the United States, I simply won't count 25 of them.
August 28, 2009, 6:12:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
OK I throw in the towel. Beck was wrong about a 340 percent increase.
According to Home Office figures, it was actually more like 440 percent.
http://tinyurl.com/2gz4th
Haggis makes a serious point. Why is Beck trying to cover up how bad the increase actually was?
August 28, 2009, 6:14:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Ashley, I believe Northern Ireland and Scotland have their own Parliaments, so perhaps they also running their own number? But Haggis will have to confirm.
oneforetheroad | 08.28.09 - 5:59 pm | #
Perhaps, I am glad to admit that I don't know a lot about the UK, but I do know that if someone is going to cite something as representing the entire UK, they need to include the Statistics for the entire UK.
Under most other circumstances, I would not have brought this up, but since Haggis has an impressive track record of omitting key facts in order to make his point, I must remain skeptical of everything he posts.
August 28, 2009, 6:15:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Firearms offences Scotland:
http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF04.htm
Just admit beck is talking nonsense.
August 28, 2009, 6:17:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Why is Beck trying to cover up how bad the increase actually was?
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.28.09 - 6:19 pm | #
Perhaps as a personal favor to Haggis. It's a pathetic attempt by Beck to help property values in Scotland so that Haggis's electric satelite dish equipped flat that he rents to his friend Chippy won't drop in value.
August 28, 2009, 6:18:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"Just admit beck is talking nonsense. "
Why admit something based on your say-so? The stats you cited didn't even address his statement, which was about the 7 years after the ban was put in place. So they disprove nothing he said. And the stats from the Home Office seem to indicate matters were even worse than Beck claimed.
So if you are going to insist Beck's statement is nonsense, then you had best present some documentation that proves what he said about that seven-year period is wrong. Or admit that perhaps you may have been in error.
August 28, 2009, 6:22:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
Haggis do you know if the United States included stats from Porto Rico and Guam when they state their figures?
I know some that would be rather annoyed by the lumping in of Scotland with the England. Sean Connery comes to time.
August 28, 2009, 6:36:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
oneforetheroad
Ophs did it again. time = mind in that last post.
August 28, 2009, 6:59:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
oneforetheroad | 08.28.09 - 6:41 pm |
You're right....Scotland and northern Ireland have their own figures....Beck is talking humbug.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6960431.stm
Johnny....That times article you linked to was about a spat during a sad murder of a young kid....The Conservatives were simply trying to win political points. No other statistics back up their claim.
August 28, 2009, 7:02:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I'M SORRY but the article you quoted does not deal with the seven period Beck was talking about. The article I cited does deal with that period, and just because you say there are 'no other statistics' to back it up doesn't prove it wrong. In fact, you have yet to quote a single statistic that demonstrates Beck was wrong about that 7-yr period. I'll give you one last chance to cite the proof that he was wrong about the 7-year period, so use it well.
August 28, 2009, 7:40:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Fifure 3.4 show the trend in reported crime involving firearms between 1999-2009....reported by the home office.
If you don't believe the figures so be it.
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs09/hosb1109chap3.pdf
August 28, 2009, 7:50:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Incredible!
Glenn Beck gets 2.5 million viewers at 5pm?!
August 28, 2009, 10:52:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Re: Olbermann, Maddow fall
From the Medialite comment board:
"sarainitaly says:
August 28, 2009 at 5:39 pm
I hate to intrude with the facts but Olbermann, in his nightly round of self-applause last night, designed to drown out his small penis insecurities, pointed out that he carried the 14-15 year old cheeto eating basement dweller demo."
We have got to get this person over here!
August 28, 2009, 10:56:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
It's midnight eastern time and FNC just did a good job broadcasting the night launch of the Space Shuttle. Still covering it almost 7 minutes after the launch.
CNN did a good job, but they quickly broke away to return to Larry King.
MSNBC did it's typical poor job of covering it. Showed it in a separate window, 1/4 of the screen. MSNBC stayed in a Kennedy Documentary.
Very few space shuttle missions remaining in our lifetimes, and MSNBC can't spend 5 minutes on it.
August 29, 2009, 12:09:36 AM EDT – Like – Reply
sarainitaly
Ciao Cecelia! I saw your message. Here I am! :O)
August 29, 2009, 1:25:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Sarainiitaly - welcome! I read your posts as suggested by Cecelia. Great stuff.
August 29, 2009, 1:46:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Guest
Welcome, Sarainitaly!
So glad you came!
Please stick around and join our discussion on cable news!
It gets quite heated at times!
August 29, 2009, 3:35:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ramjet
Sarainiitaly-
Benvenuto!
August 29, 2009, 3:43:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
# Anon: Welcome, Sarainitaly! So glad you came! Please stick around and join our discussion on cable news!...
Oops! That was from me.
August 29, 2009, 4:05:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
