Thursday Cable News Links and Open Thread
KO to critics: don't disrespect my mother!
Wednesday's numbers: FNC tops.
O'Reilly's Obama ode.
Grove: Dobbs a 'cockroach'. Target: CNN.
Ailes, News Corp's hero. Chat w/Hemmer.
Fifteen minutes of fame! Beck ad shuffle.
KO's screw-up? It's just business.
The Ego speaks! Enter Page Six. Free no more?
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Mike C.
So, that's Julie from the Hounds. This is the downside to the Examiner: anyone can write for them. But the upside is the same: is anyone can write for them. Here is an example of a noble Examiner page.
August 6, 2009, 1:41:24 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Her post was written with the kind of rhetoric that is normally reserved for comment threads and message boards, right down to the alias last name/real last name combo.
August 6, 2009, 1:45:09 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Julie Driscoll is an attractive, level headed woman judging by her post. If she disagrees with anything J$ says perhaps she should pipe up here instead of lobbing comments from afar!
August 6, 2009, 7:19:22 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I saw the picture, then I saw the headline about let's meet, and I thought, hey, not a bad idea. Then I read the piece and learned her idea of 'meeting' was she publishes a blog post. Oh well...
August 6, 2009, 9:42:49 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Oh, my lord! The Julie from News Hounds is a journalist?!
You think as many times as this site has exposed her work as being sloppy and inaccurate that she WOULD take it personally...if not professionally.
August 6, 2009, 12:27:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
"Immelt's concern is whether Olbermann's and Maddow's sniping becomes so outrageous that it affects NBC News's credibility and, thus, GE's credibility, which is very important to Immelt."
How clueless is Charles Warner from the Huffington Post?
August 6, 2009, 12:36:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
I just posted at the Examiner site and let Julie know how much of a fool she and her ilk are.
August 6, 2009, 12:40:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I hope y'all aren't overly rude when you post comments there. Don't want to hurt my chances for that meet-up!
August 6, 2009, 12:47:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
Looking for a hot date, $?
Spicy!
August 6, 2009, 12:55:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
J$ and INB - you two are on fire! over at ICN on the Olbermann thread. Excellent work!
August 6, 2009, 12:56:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Is there anyway one can criticize President Obama (that is not from the standpoint of saying that he should be more to the left) and not have some idiotic liberal call you a racist?
Is that possible?
It's a given that no political contrarian can parody, lampoon, or satirize the president without being likened to David Duke?
And I'm aware that any political opposition to him is a sign of ideological extremism.
Now, evidently, Obama supporters have circled the wagons so completely that any conservative with the temerity to speak anything even critical of Pres. Obama, is now accused of running around and burning crosses at night.
August 6, 2009, 1:01:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Scott
She's too good looking for you J$. Wouldn't matter anyway, she's too busy chasing her own tail to be bothered with you.
sarc/on
August 6, 2009, 1:35:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Is there anyway one can criticize President Obama (that is not from the standpoint of saying that he should be more to the left) and not have some idiotic liberal call you a racist?
Is that possible?
Cecelia | 08.06.09 - 1:06 pm | #
It sure is possible. Just criticize him for even dare to say hello to anyone from FNC and see how well the Olbermann's and Newshounds of the world treat you.l
By the way, excellent post Cecelia.
August 6, 2009, 1:49:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
Cecelia
Cross Burning is soo yesterday!
We are now supposed to show up 'Carrying Swastikas' to town hall meetings!!!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/08/05/pelosi_town_hall_protesters_are_carrying_swastikas.html
Look for this to be reported on one of the 'Fine & Truthful' (LMAO) MSNBC Shows tonight.
August 6, 2009, 1:54:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
GrandpaD
I saw the picture, then I saw the headline about let's meet, and I thought, hey, not a bad idea.
I saw the picture, then I read your post and I thought, "Hey, Johnny needs a new monitor!".
August 6, 2009, 2:09:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Little johnt is posting at Julie's site now with his usual ramblings about lying. The fool is like a cockroach.
I alos saw ImNotBlue's post over ther challenging Julie to bakc up her accusations with facts.
Just as is done at News Hounds she has yet to produce any facts showing where J$ has made false statements.
August 6, 2009, 2:46:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
I see Priscilla is posting her/his/it's stories with headlines using Jon Stewart.
That pretty much explains a lot. They actually think it is news and not comedy.
That would explain their lack of a sense of humor as well as their lack of knowing what the difference between news and commentary really is.
August 6, 2009, 2:55:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Love the BOR Ode to Obama. I completely agree with it. Class act that BOR.
August 6, 2009, 4:26:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Re: "O'Reilly's Obama ode": Once again, Bill is incorrectly (and intentionally?) labeled a conservative.
August 6, 2009, 5:12:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
How many times is Olbermann going to use his mother's death as a rebuttal to some critical report?
Didn't he use her death recently when he disputed a Cityfile report saying that he took an unscheduled vacation in April of this year because he was upset that the Maddow show booked Ben Affleck before he could?
He said he took off to mourn his mom and then Cityfile ran a photo taken of him, his girlfriend, and a tv celebrity at a baseball game...
August 6, 2009, 5:18:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Regarding the article about Keith warning about comments regarding his mother.
Olbermann explains that he didn't know what Wolfe does. I would say that it's quite lazy or incompetent of a host to allow someone fill-in for them when they don't even know what the person does for a living.
Loved this from the comments section.
"americanpatriot 0 minutes ago
Keith Olbermann is the most honest man in the media. That is why Republicans like Bill O'Reilly and Lou Dobbs hate him. Corrupt people hate those who expose them."
Well American Patriot, that does explain why Mr. Cankleslovakia hates BOR and Dobbs.
BOR stands up to child predators and JO stands up to BOR
August 6, 2009, 5:29:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
He said he took off to mourn his mom and then Cityfile ran a photo taken of him, his girlfriend, and a tv celebrity at a baseball game...
Cecelia | 08.06.09 - 5:23 pm | #
Was there a problem with KO going to the ball game? Afterall, the stadium was probably on the way to the funeral home.
August 6, 2009, 5:31:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Hello folks.......Glad to see me?
Anyone here still saying FNC is F&B?
August 6, 2009, 5:31:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
We were glad to see you yesterday, Haggie, under one of your other multiple personalities.
August 6, 2009, 5:34:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Evidently, Haggis has come off of leave-time with orders to "get them off K.O. and defending Fox and Friends".
Same dud, some duty...
August 6, 2009, 5:39:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
Not so much anymore Haggis, just reveling in how FoxNews has destroyed CNN, HN & your favorite Messnbc. Last time we heard from you, it was all about the demise of Fox, glad you have stopped by to see how down in the mouth we are regarding the ratings game.
August 6, 2009, 5:40:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Correct. A first attempt yesterday under another name didn't have the intended effect, so it's try, try again.
August 6, 2009, 5:41:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Well Johnny that didn't take long.....I've been away a few months and WHAM BAM...I'm instantly accused of multiple personalities.
August 6, 2009, 5:42:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Yeah, you have a point. Why, people might get the idea that you have a history of posting under multiple names, IPs, and alleged locations. Why ever would someone suspect you of sock puppetry? You truly are an aggrieved man.
August 6, 2009, 5:46:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Johnny, no matter the name he/she uses, it's always the same M.O.
August 6, 2009, 5:46:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Ashley,
I think the most galling thing about Olermann's response to Jonathan Berr's report is his implication that Berr somehow KNEW or should have know that Olbermann was tending to his ailing mother rather than paying attention to his show.
It's such a smarmy self-serving cheap shot! What a way to use your late mother!
August 6, 2009, 5:51:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Cecelia | 08.06.09 - 5:44 pm |
Cecelia.....You can't be seriously saying your defending the F&F.....They're up to their sensitive parts in Right wing talking points and are liberally spraying them about.
Today's talking point....The White House is spying on you....Be afraid.
August 6, 2009, 6:00:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
I see Haggis wants to be the mascot here again.
August 6, 2009, 6:01:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Great news.....advertisers are bailing on Beck...after his outrageous remarks on F&F
Proctor and Gamble, Lawyers.com and Progressive Insurance have all pulled their ads.
Words have consequences.
August 6, 2009, 6:07:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Well Johnny that didn't take long.....I've been away a few months and WHAM BAM...I'm instantly accused of multiple personalities.
Haggis | 08.06.09 - 5:47 pm | #
Been away? That's number one on the new list I should be keeping.
Now, are you going to back up your claim with what bad thing Bret Baier was supposed to have said? Not letting that one go Haggy.
August 6, 2009, 6:07:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley | 08.06.09 - 6:12 pm |
Good to hear from you...I think you'll find I answered that one.
August 6, 2009, 6:19:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Good to hear from you...I think you'll find I answered that one.
Haggis | 08.06.09 - 6:24 pm | #
That's number two. The list grows.
Haggis | 08.06.09 - 6:12 pm | #
As I recall, you were boasting the same thing about BOR's show a few months back. How did that turn out for you?
August 6, 2009, 6:24:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
americanpatriot 0 minutes ago
Keith Olbermann is the most honest man in the media
Ashley | 08.06.09 - 5:34 pm |
LMAO!! and I'm the king of england-he has been caught in more lies than anyone. He went on to call Bush a liar, a facist, called the 9/11 attacks 9/11TM. The worse thing Obama has been called on fox news that I actually heard myself was a socialist
August 6, 2009, 6:31:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
None of the advertisers Haggis has mentioned have pulled ads off the Glenn Beck show, more lies from our friend from across the pond. In fact, KO is losing advertising
August 6, 2009, 6:35:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley....O'reilly is just off the scale now.....Not quite Beck/Hannity yet...but getting there fast.
I had to e-mail Bill....to inform him on how statistics work. He seemed to have great trouble over them when talking about Canada and then Amsterdam.
August 6, 2009, 6:37:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
chris | Homepage | 08.06.09 - 6:36 pm |
You obviously don't watch much....if that's the worst you've heard. Beck's loosing advertisers after calling the president "a racist" on F&F
david smawley | 08.06.09 - 6:40 pm |
I'm sure Johnny knows the facts
August 6, 2009, 6:41:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
david smawley | 08.06.09 - 6:40 pm | #
Even if he did lose advertisers, there appears to be a long line of companies willing to take their place.
Beck and all of FNC are not short of advertisers.
A quick review of the ratings show that FNC leads CNN/MSNBC combined in the demo, and as I recall Haggis frequently saying*, it's the demo that advertisers go after.
* back in the day when we also heard claims from the BOR haters that Olbermann's ratings were going up would soon be higher than BORs. How did that work out for them?
August 6, 2009, 6:43:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
post the proof Haggis
August 6, 2009, 7:05:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
david smawley | 08.06.09 - 7:10 pm |
http://colorofchange.org/beck/release-pull.html
August 6, 2009, 7:11:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Haggis, I would enjoy reading your explanation as to how statistics work. Why don't you share it with the rest of us, it is cable news related since it apparently corrects BOR misstatments.
August 6, 2009, 7:16:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
Post the source for saying P&G, Lawyers.com & Progrssive Insurance have cancelled ad schedules with Beck. My guess is that you have no proof Haggis & have been exposed again as a euro-gasbag, something you do very well!
August 6, 2009, 7:16:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
Haggis | 08.06.09 - 6:46 pm |
I'm interested to know where you read that Beck is losing advertisers, your right I don't watch much cable news
August 6, 2009, 7:20:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
A Color of Cnange news rselease is not enough Haggis, I want to see it from these advertisers, you call this proof, It's garbage left wing loon crap, come with the goods or shut your pie hole.
August 6, 2009, 7:26:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Re: Cockroach
'Oh, God! Dont say birthers, whatever you donot on this broadcast! Dobbs warned CNN political correspondent Candy Crowley after shed described a White House strategy to brand health-care reform opponents as birthers, crazy people, and wackos.'
What Candy Crowley describes as being WH strategy for smearing opponents, is being carried out by MSNBC all day long.
However, from Crossfire till the second showing of Countdown, this meme is RELENTLESS.
August 6, 2009, 7:31:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
Color Of Change source - Haggis basement
August 6, 2009, 7:32:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
The question came from a viewer named Peter from Victoria, BC, who asked: "Has anyone noticed that life expectancy in Canada under our health system is higher than the USA?"
Bill's response on Life expectancy:
" Well, that's to be expected Peter, because we have 10 times as many people as you do. That translates to 10 times as many accidents, crimes, down the line." Delivered, of course, in BillO's trademark patronizing style.
Need i say More :lol:
Ashley...Do you agree with Bill's analysis?
August 6, 2009, 7:34:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Great to ode to the President from Bill O'Reilly!
Thanks, Mr. O'Reillly, for respecting the president and the presidency by focusing on the best in Pres. Obama and in our country.
Yours was the proper tone for the intentions and the spirit of vehicle that published your remarks.
Your attitude reminds me of the one prevalent when I was growing up. I thought it had completely disappeared.
Again, thank you, sir!
August 6, 2009, 7:41:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
david smawley | 08.06.09 - 7:31 pm |
Did you read it....Obviously not...You simple looked at the URL and spouted.
August 6, 2009, 7:42:17 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
Where is your proof re Beck advertisers, bring it on, or shut up & don't insult us with the bogus Color of ?Change phony news releases.
August 6, 2009, 7:48:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Cecelia | 08.06.09 - 7:46 pm |
I did post about this earlier + I gave a very generous hat tip to Bill....But sadly Johnny didn't allow it...why....I don't know.
August 6, 2009, 7:52:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
shut up
david smawley | 08.06.09 - 7:53 pm |
Your O'reillyisms are shinning brightly....may be a short course of treatment is advisable....before that nasty socialized health care appears.
August 6, 2009, 7:57:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
david smawley | 08.06.09 - 7:53 pm |
it seems Haggis is right: TVNewser picked the story up and got a response from a fox news spokesperson:
A Fox News spokesperson told TVNewser that the advertisers simply moved their spots from Beck to other programs on the network, "so there has been no revenue lost."
Edited By Siteowner
August 6, 2009, 8:02:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
it seems Haggis is right:
chris | Homepage | 08.06.09 - 8:07 pm |
Cheers Chris....Dave will be consumed with anger at having to appologise for what he said about Color Of Change.
August 6, 2009, 8:40:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
vermontdave
I thought Haggis was spot on the whole time, but I was just sitting on the sidelines (such as it is), rooting for the good guys!
Good job at refuting the right-wing talking points, Haggis.
peace
August 6, 2009, 9:02:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
I noticed Bill went after GE over having to pay $50M to settle SEC fraud suit. He somehow managed to link Obama to this. Why did Bill not tell his viewers that these fraud claims took place during 2002-2003. After all it's supposed to be the "No Spin Zone"
August 6, 2009, 9:15:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
When did the settlement take place?
August 6, 2009, 9:18:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
vermontdave | Homepage | 08.06.09 - 9:07 pm |
Cheers Vermontdave....The Flag@Whitehouse is a marvellous resource....If the Fox talking heads are right over this little address....the FBI should be calling on Ashley & Dave shortly
August 6, 2009, 9:22:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.06.09 - 9:23 pm |
So the Madoff sentencing took place during the Obama Administration....Hence using your logic the Madoff scamming must be all Obamas fault?
I don't like saying this Johnny....But you logic is badly flawed on this one.
August 6, 2009, 9:28:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I merely asked a question. Duck it if you prefer.
August 6, 2009, 9:29:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Haggis | 08.06.09 - 7:39 pm | #
Haggis is right on this one. I watched the segment and balked at the calculation. It was a mistake, but he's still one of my favorite FNC hosts. Welcome back, Haggis!
August 6, 2009, 9:32:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.06.09 - 9:34 pm |
What proof do you have that they got a lesser fine?...I'm assuming that's what your angling at.
August 6, 2009, 9:33:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Forget it. You had your chances.
August 6, 2009, 9:38:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ashley
Haggis | 08.06.09 - 7:39 pm | #
Haggis, I was hoping to see what you had to say. Too bad you are unable to provide your own anaysis.
But your BOR quote. Forgive me for being skeptical, after all you are notorious for providing ficticious BOR quotes, or altered BOR quotes.
Regardless, I would hope that in your email to BOR you discussed the extreme variations in statistical sampling when comparing two widely varied samples/population. A 1000% variance between the two will skew the results of a statistical study. Considering that medical infrastructure/systems are the basis for discussion here, does your analysis take into account that an apparent higher overall life expectancy rate in Canada may be skewed by a different environment (Crime, weather, etc) against the fact that specific medical indicators (death rate by cancer, death rate by heart disease) ---those specific to medical, are actually higher in Canada than in the US? Skewing of the results are definitely a factor in the 1000% difference.
August 6, 2009, 9:40:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Fox Fan | 08.06.09 - 9:37 pm |
FF...good to hear from you...I'll have to return more often being told I'm right twice in a matter of hours is cause for celebration and cracking open the tin.
August 6, 2009, 9:42:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ashley
Apparently Johnny, Haggis does not understand that a recent settlement is worthy of current commentary.
Haggis, you apparently have trouble understanding the link of Obama to GE. If you are thinking BOR is claiming Obama is responsible, you would be wrong. This is what BOR was talking about.
1. GE is in financial trouble.
2. Immelt is responsible as CEO
3. GE's news division provides highly favorable coverage of Obama.
4. A news anchor/host of the GE news division states publically states that it is his job to help Obama succeed.
5. After providing said favorable coverage, Immelt is rewarded by being made an advisor to the President and GE is given a bailout.
6. Obama gave money to GE despite their involvement is fraud.
GE takes bailout money
August 6, 2009, 9:47:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.06.09 - 9:23 pm | #
if I maybe of help again? the settlement happened Tuesday after a 4 1/2 yrs investigation
also:
GE settled the claim, without admitting or denying allegations, by paying the SEC a $50 million penalty
as for Oreilly:
Immelt is on Obamas economic Advisory board and that's why/how oreilly tied it to Obama.
August 6, 2009, 10:04:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
oh my source for all of that: CNNmoney
August 6, 2009, 10:04:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
Absolutely right Ashley, GE is in collusion with the Truth Squads. They paid into it, and now it's paying into them.
August 6, 2009, 10:14:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
" I noticed Bill went after GE over having to pay $50M to settle SEC fraud suit. He somehow managed to link Obama to this. Why did Bill not tell his viewers that these fraud claims took place during 2002-2003. After all it's supposed to be the "No Spin Zone"
Haggis | 08.06.09 - 9:20 pm | # "
I saw the segment in real time and the inclusive dated of the fraud were mentioned at least twice.
What is the plication, according to you, if BOR had not mentioned the dates?
After all the fact that MSNBC is Obama's and Dems biggest boosters and have benefitted by a Presidential appointment and are poised to reap obscene profits from proposed Admin legislation is immaterial to the dates of the fraud. Immelt is the glue that binds it b/c of the length of his tenure as GE's head.
August 7, 2009, 12:31:00 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
What you mean that Haggis didn't tell the truth? Again?!?
August 7, 2009, 12:34:22 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Vermont Dave,
If you think a "good guy" is a someone who changes names like they are his socks, and who has admittedly misrepresented himself and whole segments of television news shows, then its no wonder you're a News Hound.
You haven't any standards at all.
August 7, 2009, 3:47:58 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Good job, Ashley, on explaining to Haggis why O'Reilly was making a statement that ignored proportionality.
A higher population WOULD trend towards a higher death rate for precisely the same reasons O'Reilly stated.
Just as a varied ethnic, racial, and economic population would tend towards a higher one, than would one that is more homogenous.
August 7, 2009, 4:00:03 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Scott
If I were Haggis and Vermont Dave and the rest of those lead around by Ellen on a leash I would be irate, I MEAN IRATE!!, that Progressive Insurance is advertising on Fox at all. One what is the name of the company? And two who is the founder of the company and what causes does he support? Look it up then DEMAND at your progressive site's that a boycot of Progressive Insurance be called by you progressive's till they end all advertising on ALL STATION'S that don't meet your PROGRESSIVE standard's(?).
August 7, 2009, 12:57:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
