Monday Cable News Links and Open Thread
Wallace and Winston.
Friday's numbers: FNC sweeps!
Conflict of interest? Double standard?
Crowley's crib. O'Reilly shoutout.
Ad shuffle update: Cramer. New ad controversy.
Credit where it's due? Hot & Not. Huck in Israel.
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Mike C.
Will Julie still call herself Banderas on the air after she's married?
August 24, 2009, 12:51:36 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Bolling and Luntz Spin Cash for Clunkers Success as "Failure"
Reported by Guest Blogger - Sun 8:19 PM
Reported by Hula???????????
Once again, in order to smear Fox, the Poodles come out with the usual trashing of their hosts.
Now, the rest of the story......
Foreign auto makers are benefiting more than American auto makers.
Toyota is the leader at 19%
GM is at 17%.
Corolla is the number 1 seller
Civic is the number 2 seller.
8 of the top 10 sellers are foreign
A slight auto industry recovery in July and August could be offset by declining sales in September and October and wipe away the bump in consumer confidence.
p.s. Advise to the Poodles.........
Don't go into the auto business. You really have no clue what you're talking about.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/22/clunkers-program-benefits-foreign-automakers-data-shows/
August 24, 2009, 8:44:27 AM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
congrats to Julie Banderas
August 24, 2009, 9:15:28 AM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
guess whos back, talking about this site again?
http://www.examiner.com/x-7109-Chicago-Law-and-Politics-Examiner~y2009m8d23-Johnny-Dollar-hearts-Fox-News
yawn
August 24, 2009, 9:57:01 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Well its just happened.
Greg Jared.....guest hosting Americas news room...has just wondered to his viewers....Can President Obama afford to take a week off during the healthcare debate. You never heard a peep or whistle out of the Foxers over their hero and his record breaking holiday taking.
August 24, 2009, 10:03:40 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"has just wondered to his viewers"
Or asked the question? Or didn't say that at all? Or said nothing about the vacation? Please document this.
"You never heard a peep or whistle out of the Foxers over their hero and his record breaking holiday taking."
Really? Please back up that claim.
August 24, 2009, 10:10:57 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
A lesson for the News Poodles regarding Auto Dealerships.
Dealer borrows money from banks to purchase cars from Automakers.
Dealer sells cars to consumers.
Banks require that Dealers repay the borrowed money within 2-3 days of purchase by consumer.
Dealer applies to government for $4500 rebate.
Dealer waits far more than 3 days for $4500 rebate.
Your government at work. Why not let them screw up teh health care system as well.
August 24, 2009, 10:44:21 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Guest
Mike C., yes she will.
I hope she has a wonderful wedding and honeymoon.
August 24, 2009, 10:48:05 AM EDT – Like – Reply
ZoneDaiatlas
Johny $, I'm saddened that Julie Banderas is getting married in a few days.... = (
August 24, 2009, 11:07:50 AM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
Haggis | 08.24.09 - 10:08 am |
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.24.09 - 10:15 am |
crickets..........
August 24, 2009, 11:10:04 AM EDT – Like – Reply
ZoneDaiatlas
Don't forget Blackflon that the people who are trading in their "Clunkers" are buying, wait for it... Foreign Cars! Ford is the only American company that appears in the top 5 of cars sale in the US for the "Cash for Clunkers" program. Did I forget to mention that Ford is the only US Auto Company that didn't take bail out money from the tax payers?
August 24, 2009, 11:12:36 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
guess whos back, talking about this site again?
http://www.examiner.com/x-7109-C...hearts-Fox- News
yawn
chris | Homepage | 08.24.09 - 10:02 am | #
Looks like she is making up for her deficiencies. You kow, like lying, smearing, attacking and distorting.
She claims she is right and J$ is wrong yet produces no such evidence to back up he claim.
She even lies agian in this post at the Examiner web site. Here it is.....
"But this guy Johnny Dollar -- loves Fox News so much that he spends what appears to be all of his days nit-picking the viewpoints of those of us who believe Fox is an over-the-top, right-wing, Christian coalition propaganda machine masquerading as a news organization"
The lie? "appears to spend ALL of his days"
She then asks what is in it for him.
I have 3 questions for the Queen of lies.
#1 Why would you care"?
#2 Why do you spend ALL of your days worrying about Fox News?
#3 What's in it for you?
I can hear the crickets already.
Her latest post is truly laughable.
August 24, 2009, 11:14:54 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Blackflon | Homepage | 08.24.09 - 10:49 am |
ZoneDaiatlas | 08.24.09 - 11:17 am
WOW....You both have those FNC talking points down pat.
Why can't FNC simply admit this was a hugely successful plan....So successful there having to draft in new employees to speed up repayment.
August 24, 2009, 11:39:50 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Haggis, you have one more opportunity to respond to my 10:15 am.
August 24, 2009, 11:41:41 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Really? Please back up that claim.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.24.09 - 10:15 am |
Johnny.....I'm sorry I don't have that info presently....But feel free to point out any criticisms FNC levelled at Bush over his holidays. I just can't remember Bill opening up the "no Spin Zone" with...."Outrage is sweeping middle America!....over the excessive amount of vacation the President is taking"
August 24, 2009, 11:48:35 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
NO it's not up to me to prove you wrong. It's up to you to back up your claim; the burden of proof is on the accuser. And start with the alleged comment from "Greg Jared" about the vacation. What did he say, as close to verbatim as you can make it, and at what point in the coverage was this statement made?
August 24, 2009, 11:53:56 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Jared made comments similar to what I wrote....just before an ad break. I didn't hear the segment after the break due to installing new firmware for the router.
August 24, 2009, 12:00:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
I'm feeling a banning come on here....So I think I'll keep my head down for a couple of hours.
August 24, 2009, 12:07:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
If you want to ban yourself you are free to do so. But you've only answered half the question. The other half still remains: your claim that nobody on Fox ever said a word about vacations with the previous President. If you choose not to answer and keep your head down that is your privilege. But then remember it was by your decision.
August 24, 2009, 12:15:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Why can't FNC simply admit this was a hugely successful plan....So successful there having to draft in new employees to speed up repayment.
Haggis | 08.24.09 - 11:44 am | #
Haggis, now pay attention because I am going to say this only once.
The Cash for Clunkers is a short term band aid. Since the dealers sold a lot of vehicles during the program, you can expect the rest of the year to be not so good.
Yes, some consumers got themselves a new car at a very good price. they also added more debt.
August 24, 2009, 12:25:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
your claim that nobody on Fox ever said a word about vacations with the previous President.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.24.09 - 12:20 pm |
If your taking it to every employee of FNC....Then I'm sure one criticised the amount of Bush holidays...I was meaning the talking heads....Friends/Beck/Cavuto/Hannity/O'reilly/Gibson....etc
August 24, 2009, 12:45:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
So that would include Alan Colmes and Greta, according to you? I just want to make sure I have this correct.
August 24, 2009, 12:47:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
I'll give you Alan.....I'm certain at one time or another he'd have criticise the amount of Bush holidays. I can't comment on Greta....Never see her show (3am)....I think you'll agree with me...That it just wouldn't be right for me to comment on something I've not seen.
Bush and his excessive holidays are old news....and it's not my intention to take up valuable bandwidth discussing it...Can I suggest we move onto more to the more immediate problems at FNC.
August 24, 2009, 1:12:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
I'm still waiting for you to backup your statement that Fox never even mentioned Bush's vacations. That is what you said, no? What is your source for that?
August 24, 2009, 1:28:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ashley
But feel free to point out any criticisms FNC levelled at Bush over his holidays.
Haggis | 08.24.09 - 11:53 am | #
How absolutely magnanimous of Haggis to give this "freedom" to Johnny to do what he wants....on his website.
August 24, 2009, 2:06:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Bush and his excessive holidays are old news....and it's not my intention to take up valuable bandwidth discussing it...Can I suggest we move onto more to the more immediate problems at FNC.
Haggis | 08.24.09 - 1:17 pm | #
Since when is a presidential vacation "excessive"? Are you really so ignorant as to not know that the president is on call 24/7/365.
Stop whining.
No one has said Obama's vacation was excessive but liberals sure complained loudly about Bush's vacation.
August 24, 2009, 2:34:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Looks like Claudo the Clown and Little johnt may be getting a room together over at Julie's ( the lovely liar ) place.
She must really be upset about being called on her lies, plagierism and distortions this weekend. Had to call in the ""little" guns to do her smearing for her.
August 24, 2009, 2:42:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
An administrative note: as our rules state, posters who use proxy servers are immediately suspect. A couple of messages did not go thru because the use of a proxy coupled with other indicia suggested to me that someone is trying to masquerade with user names. The solution is simple: pick a name, stick with it, and don't use proxies. Thank you so much.
August 24, 2009, 2:52:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Blackflon | Homepage | 08.24.09 - 2:39 pm |
Your blatantly spinning my words...."No one has said Obama's vacation was excessive" I never said anyone did.
August 24, 2009, 2:57:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.24.09 - 2:57 pm |
Johnny...my last post was under my name and my IP....answering Blackflon....any reason why my message is a no show?
August 24, 2009, 3:14:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
OOOPs forget that last post
August 24, 2009, 3:14:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Getting a little hard keeping all that stuff straight, eh?
August 24, 2009, 3:16:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.24.09 - 3:21 pm |
Absolutely not....My hands are Swarfega clean over this new conspiracy....The last time I used a proxy was back in the good old days of Chippy.
August 24, 2009, 3:22:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Your blatantly spinning my words...."No one has said Obama's vacation was excessive" I never said anyone did.
Haggis | 08.24.09 - 3:02 pm | #
I didn't spin anything. You have a comprehension problem.
August 24, 2009, 3:51:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Wonder how Beck will spin his rapid fall in advertisers on tonight's show (33 lost so far) Please don't spin me the old line that these advertisers have just rearranged their ads....Each and every hour on FNC has got to pay for itself and more....I'm wondering if FNC will just up anchor and depart madness island.
August 24, 2009, 3:55:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Blackflon | Homepage | 08.24.09 - 3:56 pm |
WHAT!!!!.....Are your sideburns tickling your chin????
August 24, 2009, 4:04:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
tony
"Please don't spin me the old line that these advertisers have just rearranged their ads.."
I think what Haggis means by this comment is, please dont confuse him with FACTS.
August 24, 2009, 4:20:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
"Wonder how Beck will spin his rapid fall in advertisers on tonight's show...."
Likely with his signature self effacing humor and goofy "aw shucks" smile that has attracted millions of fans over the years.
We'll see.
I think the boycott attempt says more about the left-wing fringe than it does about Glenn Beck.
August 24, 2009, 4:38:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Richard
Im sure Fox news which has shows that do better than entire networks combined will be fine......only carzy companys wouldnt want to be on the #1 News network on a top rated show.
Give it a few months they and more will be back on Becks show. If I was still buying Ads and someone from my Dept even talked about pulling ads from a #1 by far network...I would fire them.....as they wouldnt understand what the purpose of Ads are.....ITS TO BE SEEN.....and thats Fox News.
It says Volumes that NONE of them are changing to MSDNC or CNN.
Intresting that some one from the "UK" cares so much about Beck and F&F?
August 24, 2009, 4:39:48 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
When I watch Beck, I'll be seeing plenty of advertisors. Beck has nothing to worry about. the people after him are just simply losers.
August 24, 2009, 4:43:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
I do have a question for haggis, where was he when olby called bush a facist? I dont recall a huge outcry from the right about boycotting his advertiers
It seems there is yet ANOTHER double standard
August 24, 2009, 4:51:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
caught media matters in a double standard and in a distortion. you can check it out on my blog
August 24, 2009, 5:55:47 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
I dont recall a huge outcry from the right about boycotting his advertiers
chris | Homepage | 08.24.09 - 4:56 pm |
Well the Right should pull their collective fingers out.....and what ever you do don't leave it up to Bill.....He'll simply turn it into a laughingstock....Need I say more.
August 24, 2009, 5:56:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
Haggis | 08.24.09 - 6:01 pm |
where you were when Olby called bush a facist?
August 24, 2009, 6:24:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
chris | Homepage | 08.24.09 - 6:29 pm |
It wasn't really a JFK sort of moment.
We don't get MSNBC over here....hence the reason I don't comment much on them.
August 24, 2009, 6:32:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
We know your electric satellite dish doesn't get MSNBC. But I thought you have commented on this very site about how you watch MSNBC online. Am I mistaken about that?
August 24, 2009, 6:35:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.24.09 - 6:40 pm |
Sadly my electrical motors packed up....So I'm now stuck with a stationary dish.
I can watch online....But quite frankly with all the jiggery pokery going on at FNC...my hands are full.
August 24, 2009, 6:41:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Re: O'Reilly shoutout
I don't know... If I were going to write a song suggesting that Limbaugh and O'Reilly were inordinately concerned about the effect that hip-hop imagery has on kids, I'd probably avoid vulgarities.
But that's just me...
Re: Conflict of Interest
Wow! The current administration is the gift that just keeps on giving to GE!
Re: Crowley's Crib
I love real estate, design, and Johnny Dollar for including these links at JDP's!
Crowley's outdoor spaces rock, but she needs to paint that blue bedroom wall a subtle green to herald that outside in.
August 24, 2009, 7:02:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
But quite frankly with all the jiggery pokery going on at FNC...my hands are full.
Haggis | 08.24.09 - 6:46 pm | #
And it's not like the Brit national pass time isn't Fox News and American politics....
August 24, 2009, 7:07:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
thanks for the link. I was able to post the countdown picture from a post you did back in 2007 which I bookmarked a few weeks back
August 24, 2009, 7:16:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Re: "Wallace and Winston": Dog lover that I am, I loved that article. Winston's a cutie.
August 24, 2009, 7:57:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Roger that for Winston!
August 24, 2009, 9:04:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
What is Cleg's blog and where is a link to the article that Julie supposedly plagiarised his work from her latest screed?
August 24, 2009, 10:20:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Excellent question, FF. Somehow that got dropped during the writing/editing process and I didn't notice. I've just updated the post to include the Missing Link.
Thanx for bringing that to my attention.
PS: This discussion really belongs in the comment thread for the FHWiR article. So let's keep future discussion of that post in the comments for that post.
August 24, 2009, 10:22:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ZoneDaiatlas
Sorry Haggis, Those aren't talking points. They're facts!
August 24, 2009, 11:24:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
Hannity just had a small segment highlighting some of the coverage bashing GWB for taking vacation time.
I didn't begrudge him any time on vacation, which is never completely vacation time for POTUS, nor do I begrudge the Obama's their vacation.
I do, however, have a very low opinion of those hypocrites who constantly berated GWB and now swoon with delight that BHO is resting as God did after creating the world.
August 25, 2009, 12:12:56 AM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Stay tuned; I didn't see that segment but I did see the panel segments, and they were good tonight.
PS: One of the panel members is Judith Miller. Keep in mind that she's just another "conservative" (per Julie D) and listen to hear just how conservative she is.
August 25, 2009, 12:14:28 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Grammie
That was a good link, Cecelia.
At first I felt deprived b/c I had missed the 100+ segments on CNN & MSNBC and they would only cover it that much if it was very important and rather unique. Of course they do seem to have a propensity for taking the flimsiest of foundations to construct a crooked house if they can build it around GWB and Cheney.
So, how many times have they reported on the politics that the correlation of Eric Holder's witch hunt and changing the subject from BHO et al's disastrous performances re Obamacare? Gee, maybe KO wil do a Spesul Komment about it, ya think?
August 25, 2009, 12:44:52 AM EDT – Like – Reply
