Thursday Cable News Links and Open Thread
Wednesday's numbers: O'Reilly/FNC rule.
Beck holiday hypothesis: rebutted.
MSNBC edit raises eyebrows: firing demands.
Q&A: Amanda Drury, Contessa.
E.D. Hill resurfaces. Cable's divide.
Truce abuse. Dr Hill's mailbag. Hotline after dark.
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cee
I was watching Maddow's show at the time and saw how they kept the man's head out of the picture. Interesting.
It shows the deep hatred the left has for the opposition to their agenda and the levels to which they are prepared to go to "win." Bad news for our nation.
The question that comes to mind, "What if FNC had done it?"
Hello, Haggis?
August 20, 2009, 6:49:07 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
This little piece of ignorance comes from the lovely Julie over at News Poodles.
"First of all, its not the government running the nations healthcare system the public option is a government-run health insurance option".
In her rush to smear and attack Bill O'Reilly and Fox, the lovely Miss Julie has lost whatever common sense she may have had.
Anyone with at least 2 ounces of that common sense knows that when government money is involved, government oversight is invloved.
Whatever it is called, health insurance or health care, the government will end up making decisions about your health care jsut as they do in Medicare and Medicaid.
And a little side note about Medicare. You CANNOT opt out of Medicare without serious consequences.
http://www.forhealthfreedom.org/Publications/MedicareMedicaid/MandatoryEnrollment.html
August 20, 2009, 8:16:08 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
OReilly Goes After Healthcare Reform and Barney Frank............
Reported by Julie - August 20, 2009
Once again the lovely Miss Julie distorts. She posts an entire screed accusing O'Reilly of misleading statements and leaving thisngs out she believes should have been in O'Reilly's talking points memo.
Of course she fails to mention that during the questioning of slobbering comgressman Barney Frank he never directly answered the questions directed toward him in the videos.
Instead he did what he usually does when confronted with questions he refuses to answer. He dodged and then insulted his questioners.
How did Miss Julie miss that little tidbit? Hmmmmmm?
I think we all know the answer to that one.
August 20, 2009, 8:53:18 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Cavuto Repeats Fox News' Unfair, Unbalanced Attack On Barney Frank
Reported by Ellen - Thu 10:59 AM
Can someone please explain to me the words "Unbalanced Attack"?
This is getting silly.
Of course the Poodles don't get the Barney Frank thing. He's a congressman. He should answer the question the best way he can witout insulting people. But this is the way of the liberals. When they cannot respond rationally, they name call and demonize.
Frank is well know for defelcting when he has to reasonable response to questions asked. There are a load of You Tube videos showing him at his best.
August 20, 2009, 12:44:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
This is very interesting...Are Beck's days at FNC numbered?....probably not....but one can live in hope.
"several sources inside FNC confirm that this is a forced vacation."
August 20, 2009, 1:54:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
Uh oh....He said, he said on Beck's forced vacation.
This is a VERY important issue deserving of further investigative reporting.....Perhaps even deserving of an entire segment on COUNTDOWN with Keith Olbermann!
August 20, 2009, 2:13:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
Funny Haggis, so many radio, cable, tv, and folks from just a general walk of life take Vacations during the middle and last half of August here in the states.
Psst! It's called end of summer, kids going back to school in Sept., last chance to do family stuff together.
My favorite radio guy is off all this week (JD), but you just keep dreaming that conspiracy theory. The boycott is working so well.
http://defendglenn.com/advertisers.php
It's like the band 'Chicago' one guy leaves the band and three join the band.
August 20, 2009, 2:25:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
puck30 | 08.20.09 - 2:30 pm |
I'm only passing on what FNC insiders are telling TVNewser....Are you saying FNC employees are telling lies?
August 20, 2009, 2:45:38 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Haggis-please apply some critical thinking here. You don't know if the story is accurate, and if it is accurate, you don't know if these unnamed people are simply mistaken.
But about lies, no Haggis, I doubt they would. You, a different story.
August 20, 2009, 3:22:04 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
In my humble opinion, Haggis was rude to Johnny last week as evidenced by the following chain of posts, then he was rude to Johnny again yesterday as he did not respond again after being reminded of Johnny's question.
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From yesterday -
Interesting how Haggis can say "explain that:", when there are a number of things out there that he refuses to address, such as his sliming of Bret Baier. There is this recent exchange with our esteemed host, who in my opinion, was treated quite rudely by Haggis.
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I notice the weekend friends had Dr. Marc Siegel on again to dish up his talking points....The same talking points he dished up for the weekday Friends. Of course there was absolutely NO opposing viewpoint....The Friends simply let him spew away without a single challenge to anything he said.
well back to the golf to see if Padraig can pip Tiger to the winning post.
Haggis | 08.09.09 - 5:00 pm | #
Thanks for the tip from MM. So if I understand this right, you are saying there was no opposing view to Dr Siegel on F&F Weekend. Correct? This is your chance to revise and extend your remarks, or stand by them.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.09.09 - 5:26 pm | #
Johnny are you saying there was someone on with Dr Siegel to at least give some balance?
Haggis | 08.09.09 - 5:36 pm | #
Is that all you have to say? You stand by your statement?
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.09.09 - 5:47 pm | #
No further response from Haggis on this.
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Haggis - don't you think you owe an explanation to Johnny? Or, will you continue to be rude.
Ashley | 08.19.09 - 4:45 pm | #
Now, will Haggis continue to be rude to J$ today?
August 20, 2009, 3:39:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
I'm only passing on what FNC insiders are telling TVNewser....Are you saying FNC employees are telling lies?
Haggis | 08.20.09 - 2:50 pm | #
Haggis, is it possible that these insiders (you are assuming them to be employees) could simply be wrong?
August 20, 2009, 3:40:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
FNC insiders, that's like the ever great un-named sources.
Who are the insiders? The janitor? Yeah thats one! Somebody from MSNBC ran across the street and went into the FNC lobby? Well, that makes him an FNC insider. Have never been there myself but, if I walked in, before they threw me out. My time in there would qualify as an FNC insider.
Heck, whoever this author is, maybe he has an imaginary friend working at FNC? You don't have any proof these people say, who they are. So saying FNC employees are telling lies is just a bit overreaching on you're part. Again, You have no proof.
You can't prove anything with an un-named source. I'm sure they covered that in Basic Law 101.
As we say out here in the Keystone. "That Dog Don't Hunt". But it will give the MSNBC crowd something to talk about. You want to follow that crowd? Be my guest, it's a free country (still).
Now let's talk REAL Mathematics, according to the defend glenn website, 26 advertisers have come on board to replace the 20 that left. Plus remember Haggis, those advertisers that pulled their spots still advertise on FNC.
So that would make this a 26 PLUS for Glenn Beck & FNC. And you can go to the website for the real numbers. It's there Haggis, it's real. Now why would Roger Ailes want Glenn to take a forced vacation?
I know! because Glenn did such a good job bringing on 26 NEW advertisers! Way to go Glenn!
These un-named sources you bring up, it's like those 'chop-shop' videos you post. It ain't really the real deal.
But like I said, you just keep dreaming that conspiracy theory.
August 20, 2009, 3:43:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
Johnny who does the edits at MSNBC these days? Media Matters? LOL!
For Haggis sake he better hope it's O'Reilly that's on Vacation, because MSNBC just set a 'Big Fat One' right down the middle of the plate for Bill to send over the left field stands.
Edited By Siteowner
August 20, 2009, 3:58:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Listen folks.....I have no isea if the insiders are telling the truth....likewise you also don't know. What reason do they have to lie?
Ashley...I have never been rude to J$ or anyone else on this site.
August 20, 2009, 4:25:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
So Contessa Brewer says "last week a guy stood outside Obamas health care town hall in Portsmouth, New Hampshire with a gun strapped to his leg and police arrested a 62-year-old before that New Hampshire event for carrying unlicensed loaded gun. And the reason were talking about this, a lot of talk here, Dylan, because people feel like, yes, there are Second Amendment rights for sure but also there are questions about whether this has racial overtones. I mean, here you have a man of color in the presidency and white people showing up with guns strapped to their waists or to their legs."
She specifies "white people" while the video was shown having the black male edited out?
Absolutely dishonest. I bet the hounds and Haggis remain silent on that.
August 20, 2009, 4:26:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Ashley...I have never been rude to J$ or anyone else on this site.
Haggis | 08.20.09 - 4:30 pm | #
You have consistently refused to answer J
August 20, 2009, 4:32:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley | 08.20.09 - 4:31 pm |
I did answer this question earlier but for some reason my post never appeared.
August 20, 2009, 4:32:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Listen folks.....I have no isea if the insiders are telling the truth....likewise you also don't know. What reason do they have to lie?
Haggis | 08.20.09 - 4:30 pm | #
Always the Fox Hater. Simply refusing to consider that, if these insiders did say this, they simply could have been mistaken.
But what will Haggis say about these "insiders" when Beck shows back up after his vacation??????
August 20, 2009, 4:34:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
Okay, let's look at it this way, as I help Haggis out of his death spin.
Now, somebody from FNC advertising tells somebody in another dept. Hey, call that dolt over at TVNEWSER and tell them Glenn is on a Forced Vacation.
Dolt runs with the news, dopey libs on other stations talk about it, it gets buzzed up on blogs. Glenn comes back on Monday to BIG RATINGS!!!!!!!!!!! And big bucks to the advertising dept!
Its what they call
A Publicity Stunt! And its been going on for decades in the Media my friend.
Google PT Barnum for more on this subject.
Without promotion something terrible happens... Nothing!
PT Barnum
Sounds like a Win, Win to me.
August 20, 2009, 4:44:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
I did answer this question earlier but for some reason my post never appeared.
Haggis | 08.20.09 - 4:37 pm | #
Just like you claimed that you answered the Bret Baier question...that one never appeared either.
But since we're on the subject of Bret Baier, since you can remember giving a response, please tell us...what is this bad thing Bret Baier is supposed to have done?
August 20, 2009, 4:58:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
saw how they kept the man's head out of the picture
cee | 08.20.09 - 6:54 am |
But if you watch the whole segment they show video of the person of colour a couple of times with his assault rifle over his shoulder....They didn't do a very good job of hiding him. The segment went on to talk about the radio reporter and his connections to a radical group called the vipers.
August 20, 2009, 5:01:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
But what will Haggis say about these "insiders" when Beck shows back up after his vacation??????
Ashley | 08.20.09 - 4:39 pm |
Of course he's going to show up after his holiday...I never said he wouldn't....nor did the insiders.
August 20, 2009, 5:04:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
"they show video of the person of colour a couple of times with his assault rifle over his shoulder"
Gee if you watch Fox they showed video of the Larouche Woman hectoring Frank. They didn't do a very good job of hiding her. Funny how that applies in one place more than another.
And please get current on the Beck vacation business. I updated that link hours ago. Beck's vacation was planned a month ago. That should've been obvious from the fact that he had a pre-taped audience show in the can for Monday and has been promoting that show for weeks. The internal email just confirms what I knew all along.
August 20, 2009, 5:08:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
"several sources inside FNC confirm that this is a forced vacation."
Haggis | 08.20.09 - 1:59 pm | #
Reminds me of olbermann soaking the bath tub for weeks so he wouldn't have to "report" on a story he didn't like......... :lol: :lol:
August 20, 2009, 5:18:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.20.09 - 5:13 pm |
Well that clears up the great Beck holiday conspiracy...I simply pointed out what I read on TVNewser. As I said above I didn't know if the story was true or false.
"Gee if you watch Fox they showed video of the Larouche Woman hectoring Frank."
But the Friends didn't show the woman...When I was talking about this yesterday I was referring to the numerous segments on F&F.
August 20, 2009, 5:20:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
I knew there was a valid reason think propaganda didn't blog on the "gun toter." He was black! Oh, the hypocrisy!
August 20, 2009, 5:25:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 08.20.09 - 5:23 pm |
Good to see you back OS.....have you washed those stinking feet yet?....I find it hard to sleep on exile island because of them. :lol:
August 20, 2009, 5:32:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ramjet
From yesterday's thread:
Shizzle....your point is spot on... but these are the hardest of hard core Fox fans....In their world it's simply impossible for FNC to do anything wrong.-Haggis | 08.19.09 - 8:11 pm |
xxxx
I know of no one, here or anywhere else, that believes it's " impossible for FNC to do anything wrong."
Please refrain from putting words in other people's mouths, beliefs in other people's minds and motives in other people's hearts. It's disengenuous and rude, be gone!-ramjet | Homepage | 08.19.09 - 9:02 pm | #
August 20, 2009, 5:36:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Olby Sucks | Homepage | 08.20.09 - 5:30 pm |
You still deep under cover over at TP? Maybe we could trade tactics as I'm deep under cover over here.
August 20, 2009, 5:43:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
FoxNews #'s through the roof, they are on the way to being the #1 cable network, Period!
August 20, 2009, 5:49:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
ramjet | Homepage | 08.20.09 - 5:41 pm |
I'm only saying what I see.....No need to take everything so seriously...But if I offended you I apologies.
August 20, 2009, 5:54:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
And please get current on the Beck vacation business. I updated that link hours ago. Beck's vacation was planned a month ago.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.20.09 - 5:13 pm | #
Hey, call that dolt over at TVNEWSER and tell them Glenn is on a Forced Vacation.puck30 | 08.20.09 - 4:49 pm | #
"several sources inside FNC confirm that this is a forced vacation."
Haggis | 08.20.09 - 1:59 pm | #
There's a sucker born every minute
P.T. Barnum quote
August 20, 2009, 5:57:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Good to see what E.D. Hill is up to, Johnny!
I'm so sorry she's not at FNC anymore!
I might even bring myself to watch The View while she's on.
She can hold her own there, no problem!
E.D. and Lauren Green obviously didn't get along on F&F back in the day and E.D. roughed her up quite a bit.
I fear for Whoppie and Joy...
Is Elizabeth Hasselbeck STILL pregnant?! Seems like she's been that way for five or six years now.
August 20, 2009, 6:03:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
puck30 | 08.20.09 - 6:02 pm |
If you took the time to check you'd see those weren't my words....I simply quoted what was said at TVNewser....hence the ""
you deserve some of what you dish out.
There's a sucker born every minute
August 20, 2009, 6:14:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ramjet
Haggis | 08.20.09 - 5:59 pm
So, you're telling us you've "seen" that "these are the hardest of hard core Fox fans....In their world it's simply impossible for FNC to do anything wrong." Correct me if I'm wrong. If I'm not, ..........oh well, you'll figure something out.
I'm not offended, yet. But I do take exception to the insinuation that I "take everything so seriously."
I will admit that I have a strong distaste for disengenuosness, misrepresentations and dishonesty.
August 20, 2009, 6:19:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
I will admit that I have a strong distaste for disengenuosness, misrepresentations and dishonesty.
ramjet | Homepage | 08.20.09 - 6:24 pm |
Well you've offended me now....will you apologies for that last statement....like I did for my statement.
August 20, 2009, 6:30:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Cecelia | 08.20.09 - 6:08 pm |
Is this the rehabilitation of ED Hill back into public life....after her outrageous comment during the presidential campaign.
August 20, 2009, 6:37:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
MSNBC edit raises eyebrows.....But not a single eyebrow fluttered over the F&F selective editing over the Frank incident. Funny how there's outrage when MSNBC do it but nothing when Fox do it.
Just for the record I think MSNBC were wrong to edit the clip....This is a diffrent clip to the one Cee was talking about in the 1st post on this thread.
August 20, 2009, 6:52:34 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
power outage here; ups will probably quit soon and will have no internet connect, so be patient re moderation until they get the juice flowing again.
August 20, 2009, 7:29:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Is someone is offended because RJ has a distaste against disingenuousness, misrepresentations, and dishonesty, there can be only one reason........they have a taste for those things.
August 20, 2009, 7:32:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
Haggis | 08.20.09 - 6:19 pm |
If you took the time to check you'd see those weren't my words....I simply quoted what was said at TVNewser....hence the ""
...hence the "" You didn't bother to check out the whole story just like the person at TVNewser you just decided and hoped that the story was soo true.
.Haggis..Are Beck's days at FNC numbered?....probably not....but one can live in hope.
"several sources inside FNC confirm that this is a forced vacation."
Then, you dug in your heels when you said, "Are you saying FNC employees are telling lies?"
Still hoping on your part there was some truth to this story.
And then: Haggis: "Listen folks.....I have no isea if the insiders are telling the truth....likewise you also don't know. What reason do they have to lie?"
Sounds like somebody pushing an agenda or conspiracy here.
Then when the story started to fall apart, you tried to spin your way out it.
Haggis: "Of course he's going to show up after his holiday...I never said he wouldn't....nor did the insiders"
"If you took the time to check you'd see those weren't my words...."
And then faced with the inevitable you took the high road.
"you deserve some of what you dish out." And then ripped off a P T Barnum quote I used earlier. My My Haggis! Such Hostilities. I'm Shocked!
More persons, on the whole, are humbugged by believing in nothing, than by believing too much
P.T. Barnum quote
August 20, 2009, 7:41:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.20.09 - 7:34 pm |
Johnny your worries will soon be over....President Obama will get on to that pesky electrical grid right after he's sorted out healthcare.....So it wont be long now.
August 20, 2009, 7:49:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
JCatara
As a lurker who reads the comments, I am reminded of a few things I have read. The first being that if I believed in the principles of the democrats, and even if I embraced the ideas of the democrats. I could never be mean enough to be a democrat. Secondly, it is apparent democrats are extremely difficult to talk to. They can't hear a word anyone is saying. Trying to have a discussion with them is a futile experience. Slam me all you want, my opinion will never change! BTW I like your site mr.j$. I read it everyday.
August 20, 2009, 8:06:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Is this the rehabilitation of ED Hill back into public life....after her outrageous comment during the presidential campaign.
Haggis | 08.20.09 - 6:42 pm | #
Sure, Haggis.
You know being on The Views is sort of like going to Lourdes...
August 20, 2009, 8:10:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
after her outrageous comment during the presidential campaign.
Haggis | 08.20.09 - 6:42 pm | #
You mean the "comment" where she was quoting someone else?
August 20, 2009, 8:11:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
I'm not offended, yet. But I do take exception to the insinuation that I "take everything so seriously."
I will admit that I have a strong distaste for disengenuosness, misrepresentations and dishonesty.
ramjet | Homepage | 08.20.09 - 6:24 pm | #
That's the difference between someone with integrity and someone who is a troll, Ramjet.
Trolls always think that at the very least you should just ignore the fact that they think you deserve being lied to, disrespected, and toyed with.
At best you should thank them for privilege.
August 20, 2009, 8:21:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
tony
Is this the rehabilitation of ED Hill back into public life....after her outrageous comment during the presidential campaign.
Haggis | 08.20.09 - 6:42 pm
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Because everyone knows that you can only make outrageous comments about republicans....by Keith Olbermann of course.
August 20, 2009, 8:40:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Al Frankenstein
First of all as a first time poster, I believe Haggis has some very well thoughtout points and all of the regulars is throw Olbermann at the debate or call him a liar
Fox and Friends, except for Hannity has two of the most bleeding heart conservatives on the network Doocy and Carlson, does Fox and Friends have an agenda of course and if none of the regulars can see that, then I feel very sorry for you
August 20, 2009, 10:55:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
"several sources inside FNC confirm that this is a forced vacation."
Haggis | 08.20.09 - 1:59 pm
I updated that link hours ago. Beck's vacation was planned a month ago.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.20.09 - 5:13 pm |
First of all as a first time poster, I believe Haggis has some very well thoughtout points
Al Frankenstein | 08.20.09 - 11:00 pm
Well thoughtout points?
Really? I must be missing something here.
all of the regulars is throw Olbermann at the debate or call him a liar
Al Frankenstein | 08.20.09 - 11:00 pm
Nowhere on today's thread was Olby even mentioned.
Are you saying FNC employees are telling lies?
Haggis | 08.20.09 - 2:50 pm
Who's calling who a liar?
I don't watch F&F, but since you've gone 0 for 2 on you're well thoughtout points. Can we say agenda from Al?
Just asking.
If I shoot at the sun I may hit a star
P.T. Barnum quote
Goodnight Everybody!
August 21, 2009, 1:10:11 AM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
But if you watch the whole segment they show video of the person of colour a couple of times with his assault rifle over his shoulder....They didn't do a very good job of hiding him. The segment went on to talk about the radio reporter and his connections to a radical group called the vipers.
Haggis | 08.20.09 - 5:06 pm |
Either you were not watching the clip I was referring to or you feel the very short stills of the man with his back to the camera (and even there, the top of his head was cut off) was enough compared to the very long and repeated footage of him moving around looking like the headless assassin.
Please watch the clip I WAS REFERRING TO:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#32454548
Please note, we never see the man's face, but sure do get a very close look at his ASSAULT weapon (oh my, hide Obama and the children!)....I think I can even see the serial number with the cameraman getting in so close. Compare Rachel's choice of film edits of the white gun holders....we get some nice zoom-ins on their faces. The guy from New Hampshire has some facial sun damage and should see a dermatologist post haste!
Sure Haggis....Rachel Maddow has NO agenda. Sure Haggis.....Rachel Maddow does not manipulate the visuals to support a specific agenda.
To be intellectually honest, I would compare this easy to see manipulation, as well as Olbermann's well documented severe bias, (while both are advertised by MSNBC all as "journalists" and "news anchors," of "news programs"), to the any claims of bias you have tried to cry about on F&F.....there is NO comparison. The friends are not bomb-throwing partisans like Maddow and Olbermann.
Please remember....FNC does not advertise Hannity, Beck and O'Reilly as "news anchors," but as commentators.....MSNBC should be honest and state that Maddow and Olbermann are NOT journalists.
They don't and won't because they are dishonest brokers in our marketplace of information.
August 21, 2009, 7:06:57 AM EDT – Like – Reply
ramjet
Well you've offended me now....will you apologies for that last statement....like I did for my statement.
Haggis | 08.20.09 - 6:35 pm | #
Please, poor child, tell me the offense and I will rectify it.
August 21, 2009, 8:14:19 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Al Frankenstein
Well puck30 I have no agenda, do I dislike Fox News attacks on the Obama administration....yes, but I do understand why Fox News does it ....I need to rephrase that not all of Fox News programming does attack Obama some like Shepherd Smith and Geraldo do give him a balanced approach.
I have read in many of the threads how some say Haggis lies like Olbermann does. Does Olbermann do anything more than spin the truth to help his agenda? Yes. Does Hannity do the same? Of course he does. Fox News does for Republicans what MSNBC does for Democrats. It is yin and yang, but why in a civil debate is someone called a liar...Haggis has a agenda sure...he probably a liberal...do the rest of you have an agenda....yes it is to stand up for Fox News which tells me that most of the posters here are probably Conservative thinkers, which in most cases does make you a Republican...which in most cases is what Fox News does push Conservative talking points.
That said I do know of some Conservative Democrats or Reagan democrats....which is what I am. We can watch Fox News and not want to throw the remote in anger about all the Obama bashing, we understand the conservative slant that they demonstate....Haggis on the other hand is a true liberal, he will turn anything Fox News says or does as a slam to Obama and his party.....he just cannot help it.
August 21, 2009, 8:50:21 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Olby Sucks
"First of all as a first time poster, I believe Haggis has some very well thoughtout points"
:lol:
August 21, 2009, 10:43:22 AM EDT – Like – Reply
tony
Al Frankenstein : Olbermann is a hypocrite and a lier. He only has "guests" who reinforce his opinion. How can you compare him to Hannity?
August 21, 2009, 3:21:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Al Frankenstein
tony | 08.21.09 - 3:26 pm | #
I will give you that Hannity does sometimes have a balanced debate, but please don't say that Hannity does not distort the facts for his own advantage.
August 21, 2009, 4:01:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ramjet
I confess. I have an agenda.
Exposing media bias in REPORTING the news, promoting the Code of Ethics set forth by the Society of Professional Journalists and fighting the never-ending battle for truth, justice and the American way.
August 21, 2009, 7:45:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
