Tuesday Cable News Links and Open Thread
Monday's numbers: O'Reilly tops 1M in the demo. Weekend numbers. Breaking news.
CNN: real journalism. Analysis.
Olby spins truce abuse.
Town hall slant? FNC: racists!
Exposé evaporates? No, it's awwn!
Q&A: Bill Hemmer, Major Garrett.
Kirsten spoken for. Hotline after dark.
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chris
I picked up the olby special comment lie and did a post about it
August 11, 2009, 10:34:57 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Re: "Expose evaporates?": It's probably for the best. But the comment thread for that ICN post went off topic to Bill's Parade column on what the President can teach America's kids. Bill was slighted for citing blog comments (one from a Kossack, the other from somebody on the BillOReilly.com message boards). There was also a prediction that he would lose viewers because of that column.
Let's flash back to last night:
Daniel Jeffs, Apple Valley, CA: "Sorry, Bill, the article was wrong-headed. Obama is abusing his power. Wise up, you have angered your base."
Bill's response: "I don't think so, Dan. The article was directed toward children and everything written is true. My base...wants the truth."
And he's right. Most of his base, me included, are not ideologues. An example of his base came in the next e-mail:
Steve Chambers, Tulsa, OK: "Mr. O, great article! Your critics will be surprised about the positive lessons for kids."
Bill's response: "You know, my most vehement critics don't care about kids, Steve. They simply hate me. So, they'll vent that hate no matter what I do."
That probably goes more for his left critics than his right critics, but you get the idea.
P.S. I transcribed viewer e-mails (some, not all) last night for my private Google group. So, that's how I was able to lift those two e-mails out.
August 11, 2009, 11:07:00 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
"Red Eye" finally went HD last night/this morning! We got a preview of the new HD graphics Thursday night when Greg showed highlights from an outgoing intern's teleprompter-reading demo.
August 11, 2009, 11:18:41 AM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
Attention! Attention!
All MSNBC ZOMBIES! Stand by for you're thought pattern orders for today......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kEHSSGHILo
Focus on the Word! Focus On The Word! Focus On The Word!
Watson & Suckerman?? Please!
August 11, 2009, 12:16:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
The lovely(shudder) Priscilla's latest screed concerns Nancy Pelosi's "unamerican" remark.
I have but one question for the lovely(shudder) Priscilla.
Would the actions of the Vietnam War protestors or 1968 protestors at the Democratic National Convention be considered "unamerican"?
So much hypocrisy...so little time.
August 11, 2009, 12:19:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Another car chase happened in the last hour, and per usual, cable news was all over it.
August 11, 2009, 12:35:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Re: "No, it's [on]!": Never mind.
August 11, 2009, 1:20:09 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
So let's see if I have this right.
During Immelts first year as CEO, he averts revealing a loss for the company buy using Enron style tactics to cook the books.
I think I can guess what will be going through Mr. Cankleslovakia's mind at 8 PM eastern as he's trying to do Countdown.
August 11, 2009, 1:20:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
RyanBunnyMan
I see FNC have smartly stopped showing live coverage of the Presidents town hall.
Sadly FNC seem more interested in letting the talking heads spin.
August 11, 2009, 1:50:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
HughFearnley
Why does Trace Gallagher always remind me of a 2nd hand car dealer?
August 11, 2009, 2:28:11 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Richard
I like to give Obama the BOD....however the first question was from a elected Democrat.....I mean come-on!
Not happy that Fox cut....but I understand why....I turned over to cspan....no news was made and the crowd was very pro-Obama.
August 11, 2009, 2:32:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
I Like Car Chases!!
August 11, 2009, 2:51:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Richard
As soon as Fox dropped Obama...I went to Cspan.....did Fox say why the dropped it?
I dont have a real problem with it....it wasnt a very good town hall....Im just wondering why they dropped it so fast....anybody know?
August 11, 2009, 2:52:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
I continue to get comments at my blog from he who shall remain nameless in response to whatever I say here. I did a Google search a few nights ago and you know what I found? He left a measured, civil comment at Alisyn Camerota's Greenroom blog some time last year. Why can't he be like that all the time? And how does he go from writing to Alisyn Camerota to hating the channel she works for and wishing its top commentator dead?
August 11, 2009, 2:53:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
Mike C. | Homepage | 08.11.09 - 2:58 pm |
Mariah Carey did a song called "obsessed"-I listended to it and if you change the lyrics you have him
I have him and another poster from NH that hides when posting comments on my blog.
just sayin'
August 11, 2009, 3:46:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Let me present a quote from Teddy Roosevelt regarding criticims of the president. Maybe this will clear the fog from the brains of the some of our friends at the Heinous House of Hens.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
August 11, 2009, 3:48:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Big Momma Ellen seems to be concerned about Hannity asking people to got to PUBLIC fourms and take pictures or videos of the people at these forums.
Does Hannity Want Viewers To Snitch On Their Neighbors?
Reported by Ellen - August 11, 2009 - 20 comments
Here is a story and link for MIss Ellen.
WASHINGTON The American Civil Liberties Union submitted comments today to the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) opposing its recent proposal to reverse current federal policy and allow the use of web tracking technologies, like cookies, on federal government websites. Cookies can be used to track an Internet users every click and are often linked across multiple websites; they frequently identify particular people.
Since 2000, it has been the policy of the federal government not to use such technology. But the OMB is now seeking to change that policy and is considering the use of cookies for tracking web visitors across multiple sessions and storing their unique preferences and surfing habits. Though this is a major shift in policy, the announcement of this program consists of only a single page from the federal register that contains almost no detail.
This is a sea change in government privacy policy, said Michael Macleod-Ball, Acting Director of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office. Without explaining this reversal of policy, the OMB is seeking to allow the mass collection of personal information of every user of a federal government website. Until the OMB answers the multitude of questions surrounding this policy shift, we will continue to raise our strenuous objections.
The use of cookies allows a website to differentiate between users and build a database of each users viewing habits and the information they share with the site. Since web surfers frequently share information like their name or email address (if theyve signed up for a service) or search request terms, the use of cookies frequently allows a users identity and web surfing habits to be linked. In addition, websites can allow third parties, such as advertisers, to also place cookies on a users computer.
http://www.aclu.org/privacy/gen/40662prs20090810.html
Gee, Ellen, what do you think of your Lord and Saviour Obama now?
August 11, 2009, 3:54:15 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
24 hours on Exile Island for trying to fool the readers of J$P.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.10.09 - 1:33 pm |
I've served my time....and I wasn't trying to fool J$ readers as you know now.
Now where's the tub.....Olby Sucks stinks.
August 11, 2009, 3:58:23 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
I've served my time....and I wasn't trying to fool J$ readers as you know now.
Haggis | 08.11.09 - 4:03 pm | #
Perhaps you can explain how you and Peter share the same IP address.
August 11, 2009, 4:18:03 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
No it was Peter and Ryan who had the same ISP. It can get a bit confusing, since Ryan, though he apparently comes from Illinois, uses that distinctive UK grammar: "FNC seem" rather than "FNC seems". Chalk it up to coincidence.
August 11, 2009, 4:24:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Blackflon | Homepage | 08.11.09 - 3:59 pm |
J$P sticks cookies on you machine every time you arrive....Is he collecting info and sending it to Fox? I'm scared....But at least Fox security can treat a visit to me as a bit of a vacation also.
August 11, 2009, 4:25:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.11.09 - 4:29 pm |
I'd like to thank Ryan and Peter for their support. Peter looked at the facts and voted I should stay....If you check Peter's post he appears to be no fan of mine.
The folk who voted against me appeared not to look at the facts placed in front of them. Johnny obviously had second thought about the ban after I sent him the video of Joe....I thank him for that....But he just couldn't bring himself to overturn the ban....I understand why....you didn't want to loose face.
August 11, 2009, 4:34:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Please don't pretend like you can read my mind. You have no idea what I thought or why I did anything. And you may have sent me some video of Joe but I didn't get it. And I didn't watch it either.
August 11, 2009, 4:35:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
RyanBunnyman
I'd like to thank Ryan
Haggis | 08.11.09 - 4:39 pm |
You were right with your facts. I couldn't vote any other way after I found the video.
August 11, 2009, 4:43:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
J$ - thanks for the clarification.
Well, whoever Ryan or Peter are, I certainly hope they are legitimate posters and not the ficticious creation of another poster here. Afterall, it would really be childish, immature, and just downright dishonest of anyone to invent a ficiticious poster in order to support their own argument.
August 11, 2009, 4:44:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
See you tomorrow, guys.
August 11, 2009, 4:46:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
GEICO pulls its sds from The Glenn Beck show. Things aren't look good for Beck. You know you must be doing something wrong when advertisers start pulling their spots.
August 11, 2009, 4:56:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Excellent ratings for FNC one again.
In "the demo", everyone except Shep beat MSNBC, CNN, and HN combined. Shep just barely missed it. Also, BORs rerun barely missed it too, but not his first-run show. As usual, it was a ratings homerun.
In the overall, everyone beat MSNBC, CNN, and HN combined.
August 11, 2009, 5:13:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
No, Haggis, I voted against you because you are a nuisance.
August 11, 2009, 5:27:01 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
This is Prime-Time news for CNN, interviewing Sarah Palin's grandchild's father? Interviewed by Kathy Griffin?
Pathetic.
August 11, 2009, 5:31:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
I'm watching Glenn Beck right now.
Plenty of commercials. Based on Becks sky-high excellent ratings, FNC must be earning terrific advertising revenue.
Things are looking quite good for Beck.
August 11, 2009, 5:33:18 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Richard
As a Geico customer they will be getting a email from me asking if caveman are running the company now.
Since Becks #1 by sooooo far I dont think Fox will have any trouble filling those ads.
August 11, 2009, 5:37:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley | 08.11.09 - 5:18 pm |
Bill may have got good ratings....but it was Jon Stewart who showed the utter and complete hypocrisy that streams from Bill's word hole nightly. starts (4mins 40sec into video) + Don't miss the cat and the monkey. :lol:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-10-2009/healther-skelter
August 11, 2009, 5:40:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Ah, once again Haggis linking to videos that show quick clips, taking things out of context, and cropping segments.
Once again, more worthless propaganda from Haggis, or whatever he is calling himself at the moment.
August 11, 2009, 6:06:51 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
I'm watching Glenn Beck right now.
Ashley | 08.11.09 - 5:38 pm |
What planet does Beck commute from? Pluto? He continually talked about Nazis and eugenics on tonight's show...Then he said this wont happen....So why talk about it then?
He then used his daughters very sad illness to get the water works going....It appeared to be some twisted link into him showing another Nazi poster. This guy is a NUT.
August 11, 2009, 6:15:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
Ashley | 08.11.09 - 5:36 pm |
I agree-with all thats going on, CNN put them clowns on the air?
August 11, 2009, 6:32:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ImNotBlue
If Beck is such a nut (not saying he is or isn't)... why do you spend so much time talking about him?
August 11, 2009, 6:32:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
Haggis likes to get his news from Jon Stewart, I can understand why he would listen to a lib comedian. Millions more are gravitating to FoxNews, serious fair and balanced reporting as opposed to a comic clown. No surprises here.
August 11, 2009, 6:37:52 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
CNN's Rick Sanchez' Wikipedia entry has recently been edited to remove the discussion of his DUI/Hit and Run/Killing of an innocent person.
It used to be there recently, but gone now.
August 11, 2009, 6:41:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
By the way Haggis, you never did share with us exactly what you told BOR concerning statistics. If you ever do want to educate him on statistics again, here are some statistics you should confront him with:
Americans have better survival rates than Europeans for common cancers. Breast cancer mortality is 52 percent higher in Germany than in the United States and 88 percent higher in the United Kingdom. Prostate cancer mortality is 604 percent higher in the United Kingdom and 457 percent higher in Norway. The mortality rate for colorectal cancer among British men and women is about 40 percent higher.
Americans have better access to important new technologies such as medical imaging than do patients in Canada or Britain...The United States has thirty-four CT scanners per million Americans, compared to twelve in Canada and eight in Britain. The United States has almost twenty-seven MRI machines per million people compared to about six per million in Canada and Britain.
August 11, 2009, 6:46:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
FNC have single handedly elevated the Clinton/translator incident into a monumental conspiracy.
August 11, 2009, 6:54:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
CNN will now 'BAN' Radio talk show hosts?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/11/cnn-bans-talk-radio-show-hosts
But they let Griffin host Larry King's show?
And Jon Klein Says, Our journalistic quality is higher than its ever been?"
I didn't know, I have a bruise in a naughty place. was right up there with this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDU2MWJwJDc
August 11, 2009, 7:23:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley | 08.11.09 - 6:51 pm |
So how come the US is 37th and the UK is 18th in the world heath rankings + The US spends 15.2% of GDP compared to the UK at 8.2% of GDP. Nearly double the amount of expenditure per year but still ranked 19 places below the UK. I'll keep my health care here....thank you very much. But if I wasn't happy with the NHS then I could take out a private insurance plan if I wanted.
August 11, 2009, 7:27:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
Haggis | 08.11.09 - 7:32 pm |
c'mon haggis, are you serious?
August 11, 2009, 7:54:31 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
WHO rankings mean NOTHING, thank you very much!
August 11, 2009, 8:06:49 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Hey, where's tonight's Culture Quiz?!?
August 11, 2009, 8:46:45 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ashley
FNC have single handedly elevated the Clinton/translator incident into a monumental conspiracy.
Haggis | 08.11.09 - 6:59 pm | #
doubtful.
August 11, 2009, 9:24:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ashley
It's late in Haggisville so he didn't answer my question tonight. Probably had to get to his Oak Enclosed Sleeping Chamber before the sun comes up. I'll be a gentleman (as usual) and answer his question to me.
*******
So how come the US is 37th and the UK is 18th in the world heath rankings + The US spends 15.2% of GDP compared to the UK at 8.2% of GDP. Nearly double the amount of expenditure per year but still ranked 19 places below the UK. I'll keep my health care here....thank you very much. But if I wasn't happy with the NHS then I could take out a private insurance plan if I wanted.
Haggis | 08.11.09 - 7:32 pm | #
Frankly Haggis, I could answer your post by saying "so how come America leads in the recovery stats".
But let's look at what you wrote.
US is 37th and the UK is 18th in the world heath rankings
Well, those rankings by the WHO were made in the year 2000 and are based on data at least ten years old. Funny you failed to mention that. As there is no criteria for how that ranking was compiled, and because it is so stale dated, hard to comment.
The US spends 15.2% of GDP compared to the UK at 8.2% of GDP.
That is easy to believe. Actually Haggy, your stats confirm my stats. The lower % for the UK is the result of the UK not investing in medical infrastructure. Less MRI machines per person, few CT machines in the UK as I mentioned. With the excessively longer waits in the UK, payment for services is less frequent. It's easy to reduce medical costs, just don't spend. Obviously, the higher spend in the US can be attributed to investments in superior facilities and technologies, plus more spending on Doctors, quality wise. Together, the improved infrastructure and medical staff obviously produce the higher survival rates.
It's also common for citizens of the UK and Canada to come to the US for medical treatment. It is not common at all for citizens of the US to travel to Canada or the UK for the same.
You can certainly prefer your system which has the advantage of being listed about 8 inches higher than my system on a piece of paper printed 10 years ago, and I prefer my system where it is more likely that I will survive illnesses such as cancer.
Good night Haggis. For your sake, stay well.
August 11, 2009, 9:42:20 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ashley
What? No Culture Quiz? No Doocy???
BOR better have a darned good explanation. I enjoy the culture quiz.
August 11, 2009, 9:43:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Fox Fan
I'm disappointed that I missed all the action with voting and whatnot yesterday. It's been a busy (and fun) summer and I haven't been able to visit here as much lately. What was the end score?
August 11, 2009, 9:47:06 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ashley
By the way Haggis, since your statistics were ten years old, I found something more recent.
From the Gallup Site, dated March 2009, data collected 2006 -2008
Satisfaction with system:
UK - 85%
US - 83%
Dissatisfaction with system:
UK - 15%
US - 16%
Health Score Index
UK - 79
US - 78
GDP per Capita
UK - $37K
US - $48K
Hardly the 2x you cited with your out-of-date stats.
We're far from perfect in the US. We have our problems. But so does the US, and if you come down with cancer, you are better off in the US.
August 11, 2009, 9:57:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
johnny dollar
Ok lets get off discussing health care and back to cable news.
FF, it was 3-2 against.
August 11, 2009, 10:02:14 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Lil' Barry Bailout
Ryan, though he apparently comes from Illinois, uses that distinctive UK grammar: "FNC seem" rather than "FNC seems".
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.11.09 - 4:29 pm
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LOL...when I want Newshound to post my comments, I start using UK grammar...she's so into the meme of Europeans being wiser than Americans that she switches off her brain cell and pushes the "approve" button.
Eh?
August 11, 2009, 10:22:32 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
You know it's not going well when At the event's (Barry's THM) end, MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell noted the questions were "not too challenging."
August 11, 2009, 11:45:25 PM EDT – Like – Reply
