Wednesday Cable News Links and Open Thread
Insiders grumble as Olbermann wields power.
Tuesday's numbers: an FNC sweep. Weekly ranker.
Imus beefing up biz news. Numb3rs. Bonus Julie!
Larry King network bans radio talkers. Berr bites back.
Truce abuse: O'Reilly, Olby, Campbell Brown!? Rumor.
Dobbs drive heats up. Joe jabs Beck. HuffPo helps MSNBC.
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GrandpaD
Joe jabs Beck
He has a point. The guests actually disagreed with Beck's "evil", "dangerous" descriptions of Obama advisors. I didn't watch the whole show; it was just too contrived and tedious.
August 12, 2009, 9:35:24 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
"Joe jabs Beck"
Johnny you have to admit it was a wee bit more than a jab....Joe pretty much called beck an idiot.
Scarborough describes Beck's rhetoric as "stupid" and "ill advised"....later adding: "Shut the hell up"
Even his hand picked guests...on last nights show....were speechless at his nutty links. A clip everyone needs to see....Priceless :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIu9D9Aa3u0
August 12, 2009, 11:00:55 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Very nice to see that even Joe S. watches Beck.
August 12, 2009, 11:15:51 AM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Wow, I'm so used to seeing such fantastic numbers for FNC that I didn't catch that BOR scored over one million in "the demo".
FANTASTIC!!!!
BOR's demo number is larger than MSNBC/CNN/HLN combined!
There is a certain poster here who used to rave about Keith Olbermann's demo. They would rave about it constantly, but I can't help but notice that they have apparently dropped the subject and no longer discuss it, I seem to have trouble recalling the name of the poster, but I remember them to be a poster who frequently posted under other names in order to agree with themself, always demanded answers yet did not show courtesy and give answers, and would frequently omit facts in order to manipulate a story.
August 12, 2009, 12:08:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
david smawley
Memo to John Klein, (worst cable news head in the world) radio talkers bring their audience to cable news shows. something FoxNews learned a long time ago. Now that Klein has fixed CNN, perhaps Obama can call on him to fix his heath care fiasco by banning doctors from practicing medicine.
August 12, 2009, 1:22:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
One man's crusade is another's wacko conspiracy theory.
I heard Scarborough make the big leap of saying people are going to choose between Obama and Beck...that conclusion is illogical. Some may want such a situation, but that is not reality.
That would be like saying people chose between Bush and Olbermann.
The left's crazy conspiracy theorists like Olbermann, Malloy, Rhodes, Maher and even good ol' Al Franken, who expressed worries about vast right wing cabals extending from Iraq to Iowa when he was on AIR AMERICA, had as much impact on the nonlistening/nonwatching center as Beck will.
This debate is not about Beck's apocolyptic drama or Limbaugh's theories on Nazism.
This debate is now whether there will be a public option, despite what the left wants which is distraction and demogoguery....that WAS once an Obama line in the sand that I now think will go bye-bye.
Thank goodness.
August 12, 2009, 1:23:55 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
Like clockwork, Little Miss Priscilla uses an artilce written by Bill O'Reilly in Parade Magazine to smear him. Of course she said she liked the article but decided to attack O'Reilly on other matters anyway. Must have been a slow smear and attack day at the Henious House of Hens.
She decided she would take on Bill's family and just had to remark that Bills father father was an oil company executive whose annual income was $35k.
Her is a little teachable moment for Miss Priscilla. Bill's father did not make $35,000 a year every year. He had to work his way up to that figure.
She then decides that since Bill went to a private school he wasn't really "poor". Well, Miss Priscilla I can tell you that many people during that time had families who scrimped and saved to send their children to private school and they were by no means rich. I was one of them.
Even today people are scrimping and saving to send their children to private schools due to our terrible public school system.
As is usual with teh News Hounds, many facts are left out of their smear jobs. Should we expect anything else?
Nope.
August 12, 2009, 1:44:16 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
Funny, It seems that in my clip. The guests in MY Glenn Beck clip have a lot to say.
http://usaguns.net/patriots/beckcare.html
But then again, when you go to a KNOWN 'video chop shop' website for you're clips.....
August 12, 2009, 1:49:35 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
Megyn Kelly is my hero.
Pitting Americans against Americans in a electronic fishing expedition is not constructive or healthy for our nation, at best....at worst it will be used as a source for political hackery because the e-mails and possible even names are not going to be deleted as per government regulation, as Burton FINALLY admits.
Scoffing at privacy concerns of the people Obama works for is cynical and typical arrogance for this White House. Thank goodness FNC is there to record the truth.
August 12, 2009, 2:08:02 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Puck - are you implying that a certain poster here provided a link with comments edited out, then complains about Beck using the issue of supposedly absent comments?
Gosh, that sounds pathetic for someone to do that.
August 12, 2009, 2:10:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
puck30 | 08.12.09 - 1:54 pm |
We've now entered the puck spin zone. Just check out the part where Beck is digging around at the roots of his tree....and then he asks his hand picked guests if they agree with him...that people are a virus....There is stunned amazements followed by silence.
No one said that the hand picked guests were silent for the entire show. Stop Hannitizing the facts.
Johnny doesn't like disinformation on his site.
August 12, 2009, 2:13:43 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
Looking over this 'MM site' does have me think, Are these people for free speech? I don't think so because it's not just what you print on you're blog, but it is also what you let be said and stand in you're comment section.
http://mediamatters.org/research/200908120010
I found this in the comment section of this MM article posted by ucjb.
"This is an excellent start, but needs to be expanded upon by including all sponsors of all right-wing propaganda programming,"
"Yeah, cause free speech sucks."
So, I am now lead to understand that someone who posts clips from a known 'chop shop website'. Also supports the curtailing of free speech?
Well, it's good we all know where someone is coming from.
But I did find this funny, it seems according to this website, that GE of all companies advertises on the Glenn Beck radio & tv show.
Oh! I will be stopping at Red Lobster tonight before I go shopping at Wal-Mart.
August 12, 2009, 2:51:10 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Blackflon, Priscilla just gave her hero Keith Olbermann a source for a new O'Reilly Attack tonight by writing that.
August 12, 2009, 3:29:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
Let's see, I posted my comment with clip at 1:54 pm
Haggis posted his comment at 2:18 pm
Time lapse 24 min.
My clip runs 39:47
Beck doesn't hit the blackboard until the 30:15 mark!
The part Haggis talks about doesn't come up until the 35:30 mark.
And Haggis figured this all out in less then 24 mins? How about he didn't watch the WHOLE SHOW!
Stop Hannitizing the facts?
Ladies & Gentlemen, I posted the whole show. Watch it, come to you're own conclusion.
Haggis wants you think what he tells you to think from a clip from a known video chop shop.
And also Hannitiizing????? You can go back almost two years on this blog that will tell you that during the 3-6pm (EST) I listen to Jerry Doyle.
Johnny doesn't like disinformation on his site???
When it come to disinformation my friend it seems that you don't use a broad brush, you use a roller.
August 12, 2009, 3:32:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Johnny doesn't like disinformation on his site.
Haggis | 08.12.09 - 2:18 pm | #
True, but since there is no Zero Tolerance Policy in place, you can still post here for the most part.
By the way just a reminder that you never responded to Johnny's questions to you from the other day. Awfully rude, yes?
August 12, 2009, 3:37:29 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Re: Huff Post/MSNBC
Interesting that Huff Post is now a customer of MSNBC.
What do the hounds have to say about that?
Silence??
I would bet they wouldn't be silent if the arrangement was J$P/FNC.
August 12, 2009, 3:46:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ramjet
Haggis,
If, what you say that "Johnny doesn't like disinformation on his site," is true (and I think it is), then there is NO DOUBT Johnny doesn't like your "and then he asks his hand picked guests if they agree with him...that people are a virus...." Why, you ask? Because it's not true. It's perfect Haggis misrepresentation, disinformation, falsehhod.
Regarding the MM clip, if I were the skeptical type, I might think the reason it was ended about a minute before the segment ended was because of the content in the remaining time. If I were the type who would attach ulterior motives and nefarious patterns of editing to MM, the Haggis supplied MM video would qualify for those attachments, if I were the type.
August 12, 2009, 3:55:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
GrandpaD
Haggis | 08.12.09 - 2:18 pm |
Just check out the part where Beck is digging around at the roots of his tree....
Yes, that's the part that I had in mind. The guests disagreed with Beck's opinion of the "root people", or in some cases were just silent.
I did not watch a video; I watched the show live.
August 12, 2009, 4:03:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
I don't Adam & Eve it....Eve & Adam it....That just doesn't have the same ring....Why are Doocy and Carlson making fools of themselves over the supposed banning of words.
Doocy came up with "five questions Americans should be pressing their elected leaders on" this morning. He said he got them from a "friend"....but if you check the Heritage Foundation's blog you'll find these same questions posted. This wouldn't be the 1st time FNC have been caught listing RW talking points.
August 12, 2009, 4:06:28 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Welcome to American Eagle Squadron Rapid Response Force.....Tha last time this site rapidly responded was May 22, 2009....Sorry Ramjet I couldn't help myself
August 12, 2009, 4:17:22 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
GrandpaD | 08.12.09 - 4:08 pm | #
Spot on GrandpaD....I also saw it live and the YouTube video is exactly what occurred. Beck asks hand picked guests if they agree with him.....only to be greeted with utter silence.
August 12, 2009, 4:24:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
Thanks Ashley, Ramjet.
I posted the whole show, you can decide after watching it.
Ramjet you are further correct in why couldn't MM let the clip play out? It wouldn't have taken more than 3mins.?
Motive? Again, you decide.
If a person believes and follows the thought of a presentation of a edited clip from a website that promotes the curtailing of Free Speech without looking just a little further into the matter when the evidence has been presented (the whole show). Then I believe that person needs to take out a chalk-board and start their own personal check list.
Our as we say out here in the hood. "You need to check you're self!"
August 12, 2009, 4:36:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Re: "[FBN] Numb3rs": This only reignited my Cablevision Derangement Syndrome.
August 12, 2009, 4:54:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Mike C. | Homepage | 08.12.09 - 4:59 pm |
I came to the conclusion that the rating for FBN can't be very good when I saw who was advertising with then....it was non other that...The mighty Uncle Norman's pet sponge company. I've been watching FBN the last couple of days.....It's FNC with a few more numbers thrown in.
August 12, 2009, 5:15:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Good piece from CItyfile, Johnny.
Ghastly picture of Katie Tur, who is an attractive young woman.
Evidently she's now borrowing her boyfriend's dentures...
They both need a new dentist.
August 12, 2009, 5:22:19 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Mike C. | Homepage | 08.12.09 - 4:59 pm | #
FBN is almost 2 years old and the cretins from Cablevision still won't put it on. That's just gotta be a pain in the neck Mike.
Glad to see FBN ratings going up while CNBC's go down. That's the right direction for both business networks.
Before long, FBN will surpass CNBC, just as its sister network, FNC did to CNBC's sister network....a decade ago.
August 12, 2009, 5:24:05 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ramjet
"The youtube video is exactly what occurred."-Haggis
Brilliant!!!!
The problem isn't what occurred, it's what you wrote.
BTW, is there an interview show on the telly that DOESN'T PICK their guests?
August 12, 2009, 5:40:56 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Ashley | 08.12.09 - 5:29 pm |
So it's only taken FBN 2 years to scratch their way to 10x fewer viewers than CNBC.
August 12, 2009, 5:45:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Cecelia | 08.12.09 - 5:27 pm | #
and one of them needs a Cankleologist while the other needs an Optometrist.
August 12, 2009, 5:52:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Mike C.
Cablevision knows we Long Islanders, New Yorkers, Northern New Jerseyans, and Southwest Connecticutites (or whatever the last two are called) are beholden to all things Cablevision. We've got to have our News 12 [region], our News 12 Traffic & Weather, our public access channels, and other stuff you can't get with Verizon FiOS, or "phone company TV" as they snidely refer to it. And unfortunately, and this will delight those hounds, not many people have requested the channel be added. If anyone is, it's conservatives. And outside of the Town of Hempstead and some of the Town of Oyster Bay, it's a huge minority...or at least it feels that way to me right now.
August 12, 2009, 6:12:42 PM EDT – Like – Reply
2008
Beck Exploits His Special Needs Daughter to Further "Euthanasia" Lie and "Nazi" Smear
August 12, 2009 - 4 comments
Guest Blogged by Jonathan
___________________
The NH's newest 'Author' attacks Beck with lies and misrepresentations......
Who has Brodsy managed to add to her contemptible 'staff' you might ask....well it is the ever vile and disgusting 19 year old child 'Jonathan'. Here is a brief sample of a post at NH's before Big Momma green lighted yet another counterfactual guest post from the hateful adolescent.
The f****r actually exploited his own special needs daughter to scare his viewers
What a sleazy and sick m**********r.
_________________
Posted by: J.P. Holmes on Tue 8.11 9:17pm
Just when you think NH's can not possibly sink any lower Ellen still manages to make it happen eh?
How Sad
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August 12, 2009, 6:17:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Blackflon
It looks like Jonathon has his thong in a wad over Glenn Beck's mention of his daughter in a segment about health care.
Beck Exploits His Special Needs Daughter to Further "Euthanasia" Lie and "Nazi" Smear
Reported by Alex - August 12, 2009 - 13 comments
Guest Blogged by Jonathan
I am wondering where these whining hypocrites were while the democrats haul out 11 year old little girls( she was a plant by the way ) at Obama's Town Hall.
And where were they when the democrats almost always drag out children at some function and tell everyone that the Republicans want to kill our children.
Typical stuff for the Hounds. Good little poodles.
p.s. for you News Hounders who may be reading this......FUN BAGS!!!!!
August 12, 2009, 6:25:27 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
The You Tube Video???????
I posted the show from a website that had nothing to do with You Tube.
Either one of you post what they said after MM cut the clip (since you claim to have the youtube video of the whole show) or I'm calling you and Grampa out as bold faced you know whats that did not watch the show!, since BOTH of you claim you watched it LIVE!
Funny, Haggis said he watched it live after Grampa came on.
Print it! Show It! What did they say? comon' Grampa let's hear it! What did Carter say after MM cut the clip. It's only 3 mins. and you said you have the youtube video and I'm sure you can make this great case by posting an extra 3 mins.!!!Or Is it that, your case will fall apart if that 3 mins. is left in or the whole show for that matter. It seems funny to me that you have to keep harping on a 1:47 sec clip but you can't quote anything from the rest of the show.
Don't believe an entire show folks, believe what MM & these two tell you to think after a edited (that was chopped at the 23 sec. mark) 1:47 sec clip.Folks, Beck had SOURCES for everything. You will see it when you watch the WHOLE show!
Again, watch the entire show posted above, I'm not asking you to agree or disagree with Beck. But it's not what these two and Media Matters are telling you to believe (GEE WIZZ). You Watch, You decide.
39mins??? or a 1:47 clip that stopped after Carter was about make a point. Why did MM do that?
I think that the informed, free thought, person this will choose the former.
I rest my case.
BTW: since Haggis LOVES to change the subject. Night after night after night... Olby doesn't HAND PICK his guests?
Thank You I'm gone.
August 12, 2009, 6:26:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
Not that I agree with that hate merchant but! It does sound like he watched more of the show then Haggis & Grampa.
August 12, 2009, 6:29:57 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
So it's only taken FBN 2 years to scratch their way to 10x fewer viewers than CNBC.
Haggis | 08.12.09 - 5:50 pm | #
Since there are so many few viewers of ALL of cable business news, the rate that FBN is capturing them is quite high. I would think someone who claims to know about statistics would know that.
Regardless - FBN growing. CNBC shrinking. FNC still on top....by a mile!
August 12, 2009, 6:32:41 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
I've always liked Glenn Beck. In the past he seemed like a nice unpretentious man; sincere and thoughtful.
He's changed. He's not malevolent and egomaniacal like Olbermann, but he's every bit the hyperbolic bomb thrower.
The pity is, that Glenn Beck is perspective and more often than not, raises red flags that should be raised. Unfortunately, his loony bin emotionalism obscures that.
August 12, 2009, 6:35:33 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
Mike C. | Homepage | 08.12.09 - 6:17 pm
Fulton Ave. Hempstead LI.! I was there MikeC. a few weeks ago!
A lovely 24/7 bodega at one in the morning! right down the street from 'The Home Depot' . Don't complain! You might not have FBN But You've got a 'White Castle'!!
Murder Burgers RULE!
August 12, 2009, 6:41:46 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Why did MM do that?
puck30 | 08.12.09 - 6:31 pm | #
The did that to manipulate the facts, and through omission of facts, they intentionally place a left wing spin onto their video propaganda.
It's downright disreputable. But there are some out there who need MM to do their analysis for them.
August 12, 2009, 6:42:50 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
One would think that Beck haters would at least give him credit for having on guests who DISAGREE with him.
But no, there are some who would complain about Beck, or BOR, whatever they do.
BOR goes after child predators? Some here hate BOR. They don't agree with anything he does. BOR goes after oil companies? BOR goes after oil speculators? They hate him.
August 12, 2009, 6:47:59 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
Mike C. | Homepage | 08.12.09 - 6:17 pm |
Mike, you can't get satellite? I have one and it works great.
August 12, 2009, 6:48:54 PM EDT – Like – Reply
puck30
Would the reason Olby wanted Katy to have a second job closer to home is that she might have been having too much fun out there, and wasn't calling 'Bear' as much as she should?
Don't look for MSNBC to fire Olby, (they don't want to be on the hook for that big contract) but if they can get him to walk out on his own......
That's the ticket!
August 12, 2009, 7:06:00 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Mike C. | Homepage | 08.12.09 - 6:17 pm |
Mike....I'm just going you this one favour to stop you moaning about having NO FBN.
A thanks would be appreciated non the less.
Fill Your Boots--> http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-fox-business-news.html
August 12, 2009, 7:06:39 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Look at Lou Dobbs.
He wants existing immigration law enforced and decries the fact that illegal immigration is supported by employers who wish to pay low, non-union wages (something liberals used to be concerned about) and he's accused of HATING Latin people.
You can get more unreasonable than this. Though Bush supported amnesty, his administration didn't characterize opponents of it as being xenophobic haters.
THAT is ginned up rhetoric by Democrats, simply because they wish to inflame legal Hispanic immigrants in order to build that constituency.
Bye bye...logic and law... and anyone who gets in the damn way.
August 12, 2009, 7:12:44 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
Cecelia | 08.12.09 - 7:17 pm | #
Be careful about using that "evil" term.
According to Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), they are "Undocumented Americans". A comment that none at MSNBC or CNN chose to ever discuss.
August 12, 2009, 7:29:24 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
MM & these two tell you to think after a edited (that was chopped at the 23 sec. mark) 1:47 sec clip
The reason for the edit at 23sec is quite simple....there was an ad break. Check this video....The ad break happens just before Beck launches into folk being viruses....and then his hand picked guests being stunned into silence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ5NAAFQLDM
August 12, 2009, 7:35:26 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ramjet
I love the way Megyn began the segment with the double-talking sneasle, Bill Burton.
"Bill, welcome BACK to the program."
9 1/2 months since his last spanking.
August 12, 2009, 7:36:36 PM EDT – Like – Reply
chris
I "liked" how Bill burton dodged Megyns question. It was a real simple question
August 12, 2009, 7:52:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
ramjet | Homepage | 08.12.09 - 7:41 pm |
Come on Ramjet....surly you can see through the thin veneer over at Americas news room. It a mini Hannity & Colmes....Bill plays the middle of the road sort of guy....So that then lets Right Wing Kelly off the leash to play a very slightly milder Hannity....Hence you'll notice you just about always know Kelly's point of view on most stories and it's not a liberal view point.
August 12, 2009, 8:00:40 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
Rent Murdoch's French designed boat for $310K/week.....Things must be getting desperate over at News Corp....Mind you those were hefty looses they reported.
August 12, 2009, 8:21:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ramjet
Haggis,
You lie about what Beck said. You accuse Ms. Kelly of being right-wing and reporting with a partisan bias when she simply wanted a straight forward answer to her question from a head-bobbing, prevaricating sneasle.
Come on, Haggis....surely you can clearly see I'm surly, unveiled.
Be gone.
August 12, 2009, 8:35:37 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
and it's not a liberal view point.
Haggis | 08.12.09 - 8:05 pm | #
Oh, the humanity...
August 12, 2009, 8:47:12 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Haggis
the rate that FBN is capturing them is quite high.
Ashley | 08.12.09 - 6:37 pm |
FBN are certainly capturing those new viewers at an astounding rate.....27 new viewers a day since they started broadcasting....WOW!
August 12, 2009, 8:53:13 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Cecelia
Ashley,
They don't talk about it in any detail because they'd have to characterize the majority of the population as being haters if they did.
If they can keep that characterization down to some nebulous conservative ethos without having to define the criteria, they can use anti-undocumented-worker sentiment as a political epithet.
August 12, 2009, 8:55:53 PM EDT – Like – Reply
cee
"it's not a liberal view point."
Making her all the more alluring.
I was particularly irritated with Hemmer's suggestion of sexual tension between Burton and Kelly....no it cannot be!:o
August 12, 2009, 9:27:21 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
FBN growing
CNBC sinking
Remember when Haggis cheered with glee in his predictions of KO beating BOR?
I wonder how his analysis worked out for him.
I hope he is well, I have my concerns as his medical coverage appears to be quite inferior.
August 12, 2009, 9:43:08 PM EDT – Like – Reply
Ashley
By the way Haggy, those are new viewers that CNBC wishes they were getting.
August 12, 2009, 9:45:58 PM EDT – Like – Reply
ramjet
Welcome to American Eagle Squadron Rapid Response Force.....Tha last time this site rapidly responded was May 22, 2009....Sorry Ramjet I couldn't help myself Haggis | 08.12.09 - 4:22 pm | #
I understand. When it comes to being dishonest, you just can't help yourself, it's your mind set.
August 13, 2009, 8:26:03 AM EDT – Like – Reply
